Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:56 pm

Tends to be everything tbh.

Hearing "Help me Dr D**k" by e-rotic on the radio in an Uber at 2pm in the afternoon was an experience 😂
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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by ChrisG » Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:30 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:56 pm
Tends to be everything tbh.

Hearing "Help me Dr D**k" by e-rotic on the radio in an Uber at 2pm in the afternoon was an experience 😂
Nowt like a bit of uncensored NWA either to liven up the school run!

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by deanothedino » Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:24 am

Goliath wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 5:30 pm
Fair enough, what's the reason?
Technical

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by deanothedino » Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:31 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:45 pm
I was told it was because for some games it required overnight stays - think this is the second season where he's done it from a studio in Preston. First time I realised was last season's PL game at Luton when Sky virtually missed our winning goal so he didn't see it either.
Who told you that? It may be a contributing factor to why they didn't try harder to continue the status quo but it isn't the primary reason.

It is the second season though yeah.

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by Spijed » Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:17 am

NL Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 7:00 pm

Get the feeling that the commentators on the games shown on Sky Sports + are not in the ground.
Apparently the commentary for each game on "Match of the Day" is re-done afterwards.

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by houseboy » Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:38 am

jos wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:27 am
But you stated that “everyone swears” and that simply isn’t true, perhaps you should have phrased it differently. Let’s face it anyone can swear, but I like many of my friends and family chose not to.
I never heard any of my grandparents or my parents swear either.

People have different values, where I sit at the back of the longside there’s generally only one guy who shouts abuse using bad language (which is a bit of a shame as a young lad sits in front of me, who perhaps should be in he family section)
When I said ‘everyone swears’ I was perhaps overstating things slightly, I should have said ‘most’. And it is most. As for the guy in front of you he is out of order because I must admit I never swear in front of kids (even if they do know what it means). I never heard my dad swear (except as I have said for the odd bloody/bugger/damn) until I was in my twenties and he came from a hard family and was in the army.

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by houseboy » Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:48 am

dsr wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:42 am
The first "like you" refers to the people you describe who swear all the time regardless of context. It doesn't refer to you personally.

The second "like you" does refer to you, and it refers specifically to the fact that you have stated that you don't expect people to be offended by swearing. I know that is so because you have said so. I know something about you because you have told me via this message board. I don't need to assume.

Isn't this all a bit pointless? I don't like swearing, you don't mind it, let's let it rest.
Well put sir and I agree. We are all Clarets on here and I respect everyone’s point of view. Including yours. Happy new year to you and your family bud and I hope you have a good year.
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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:56 pm

deanothedino wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:31 am
Who told you that? It may be a contributing factor to why they didn't try harder to continue the status quo but it isn't the primary reason.

It is the second season though yeah.
Someone at the club told me

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by ChrisG » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:07 pm

Spijed wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:17 am
Apparently the commentary for each game on "Match of the Day" is re-done afterwards.
Possibly, but the footage is edited as the match goes on. The editors watch the match live, and then take any incidents to form a package of a certain length.

The producer will look at the games and decide which games are to be the full 8 minutes, then 6, 4, 3 and so forth, depending on number of goals, contentious incidents, status of the game (derby etc).

My mate was an editor on MOTD for many years, and he once did an interview on one of the Burnley podcasts a few years back to explain it.

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by JarrowClaret » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:12 pm

houseboy wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:43 am
I find apologising for bad language a bit out dated. Everyone swears now, male, female, young and old. I remember the daft old days when guys used to threaten other blokes for ‘swearing in front of my wife’. The same wife who A: didn’t get a say in it and B: probably swore like a trooper when hubby wasn’t there. It’s just words.
No issue with hearing swearing and I agree I don’t believe a broadcaster should have to apologies for it. I must say though not everyone swears all the time, there are circumstances when I would but as a rule I rarely swear when I am out and about.
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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:18 pm

ChrisG wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:07 pm
Possibly, but the footage is edited as the match goes on. The editors watch the match live, and then take any incidents to form a package of a certain length.

The producer will look at the games and decide which games are to be the full 8 minutes, then 6, 4, 3 and so forth, depending on number of goals, contentious incidents, status of the game (derby etc).

My mate was an editor on MOTD for many years, and he once did an interview on one of the Burnley podcasts a few years back to explain it.
The commentary on MOTD is clearly added post-edit. I thought this was obvious and common knowledge?

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by ChrisG » Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:01 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:18 pm
The commentary on MOTD is clearly added post-edit. I thought this was obvious and common knowledge?
I've no idea, but I agree it does sound post edit.

I was simply stating how the actual video editing process works.

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by Gnulty » Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:10 pm

Anyway, Phil Bird is a Burnley legend in my book :) . UTC and mind your language fellow Clarets...

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by jtrbfc » Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:24 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:18 pm
The commentary on MOTD is clearly added post-edit. I thought this was obvious and common knowledge?
Correct.

The bit where they usually something along the lines of:

"We've just ticked past 75 minutes on the clock and Manchester United have conceded the most goals in the last 15 minutes of the games so far this season..."

before then cutting to a highlight of them conceding a goal to throw the game away in the last 15 minutes is usually a give away. It happens in the majority of their highlights.

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by NL Claret » Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:55 pm

Spijed wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:17 am
Apparently the commentary for each game on "Match of the Day" is re-done afterwards.
I wouldn’t know, during the Dyche years I got so incensed with the programme that I stopped watching it, must be over 6 or 7 years ago now. If I want to watch goals from a specific game I just use the Sky Sports App. I do watch the EFL highlights but don’t really listen to what is been said.

Was watching a PL game the other week, think it was for Australian TV and Maniche was in the studio, the lad who used to do the EFL programme when it was on BBC. Not seen him in years.

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Re: Phil Bird apologising about a fan's bad language

Post by dsr » Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:58 pm

jtrbfc wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:24 pm
Correct.

The bit where they usually something along the lines of:

"We've just ticked past 75 minutes on the clock and Manchester United have conceded the most goals in the last 15 minutes of the games so far this season..."

before then cutting to a highlight of them conceding a goal to throw the game away in the last 15 minutes is usually a give away. It happens in the majority of their highlights.
Yes, but that's because Man United usually do concede a goal to throw the game away. ;)

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