ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

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Re: ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

Post by AmbleClaret » Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:59 pm

Forest mate says he was a bad egg there and Worrall in particular won't be pleased. Don't shoot the messenger.
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Re: ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:01 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:36 pm
Hope he’s not on big books as can’t see him starting many game unless parker just chucks him in
Could see him starting over Laurent eventually

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Re: ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:02 pm

Rooster 2.

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Re: ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:03 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:59 pm
Forest mate says he was a bad egg there and Worrall in particular won't be pleased. Don't shoot the messenger.
He spoke well of Worrall in the club interview
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Post by jrgbfc » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:12 pm

Makes more sense to me than the Barnes signing! If he's fit enough to do a job his range of passing is miles better than the rest of our midfield.

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Re: ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

Post by Claret knight » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:13 pm

He was on the same plane as me coming back from Florida in June , my son had to tell me who he was I had no idea 🤷‍♂️

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Re: ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

Post by fatboy47 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:18 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:31 pm
I just don’t see it. He’s hardly played recently and his stats are rubbish. 20 goals and 26 assists in the last 9 years.
Gotta feel sorry for Parker.

How's he expected to know anything about midfield play in the higher echelons of English football?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:23 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:03 pm
Surely thats exactly what Vegas said 🤣
bonkers :D

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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:24 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:59 pm
Forest mate says he was a bad egg there and Worrall in particular won't be pleased. Don't shoot the messenger.
send your mate the Shelvey interview

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Re: ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

Post by Bosscat » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:29 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:23 pm
bonkers :D
🤣

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Re: ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

Post by AmbleClaret » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:34 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:24 pm
send your mate the Shelvey interview
With pleasure. As I said.

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Re: ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

Post by HunterST_BFC » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:34 pm

Surprised he's still bald after all that time in Turkey
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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:35 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:46 pm
Judging from his interview he has a real purpose for doing well for us-I will not be surprised if he plays a significant part in our next 3-4 months. Always feared him if Burnley were playing against him

All these introdctory interviews are the same

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:43 pm

DCWat wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:56 pm
IF he’s fit, can still offer what he used to do, it’s not a bad signing, though it feels like a bit of a gamble.

It is low risk in one sense, in another, it’s quite high risk if he isn’t able to deliver - the cost of failing to get promoted could be far greater than being prepared to spend on some younger quality.

We now have more than enough (easy to argue, too many) ‘older heads’. How many minutes are Shelvey, Rodriguez, Barnes, Worrall, Egan, Redmond going to play, are we really going to get value in terms of contribution on the pitch from what will be significant wages, between them all?

We now need to add some real quality that will allow us to score some bloody goals. We have far too many in our squad that for one reason or another are contributing the square root of **** all.
Good post. I hope he does well for us but I've always thought in his younger days he was 'an accident waiting to happen'. Could be volatile and moody so let's hope he's grown out of that.
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Post by Goliath » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:51 pm

Absolutely vital we signed someone of his ilk. We were absolutely knackered if Cullen got injured, now we have some backup.
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Re: ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:14 pm

Not sure about this one at all. His career looks to be on the wane.

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Post by timshorts » Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:25 pm

Spike wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:50 pm
Hopefully he is more mobile than Tommy but having said that Tommy Cassidy was a class act
RIP Tommy
Well, no.

To all those people who know/remember shelvey from the highlight reels, forget that. It's possible, he can do it, but it's much like Steven Gérard in that for every one that is heading for the top corner, there are 4 heading for row Z.

For a good few seasons at Newcastle, he seriously ****** people off. It was a continual cycle of not tracking back, awful tackles leading to penalties and red cards, a gait and energy level that made Chris waddle seem like Scott Parker, balls given away when a decent forward pass was on, looking for the glory ball. The opponent was worrying about his class, but toon fans were hoping he'd be on the bench.

But, for the last season and a bit, he turned into a really useful player and had seemingly solved all of that, such that I seem to remember even after he had signed for forest, he still turned up at that days game and got into the team's winning picture at the request of both former teammates and coaches.

If we get the second version, then this is a really good signing, but my head tells me that we won't.

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Post by Elizabeth » Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:26 pm

If anyone knows what Shelvey can bring to the club it's likely to be Parker and he wants the player here. There is an element of Shelvey needing to prove that he can still do it in English football and if he sincerely believes that himself we could be applauding this signing at the end of the season. His footballing skills are unquestionable
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Re: ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:48 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:14 pm
Not sure about this one at all. His career looks to be on the wane.
Whereas Barnes has yet to reach his peak ?

;) ;)
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Post by claretspice » Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:02 pm

In principle, fine. Decent signing on paper.

Provided the very obvious questions about his attitude have been answered (and as that interview indicates, there are two or three good character referees around the club in Worrall, Cork and Roberts), and provided he's fit enough and match ready enough to influence Championship games from the get go, he is a player with a good pedigree, who adds a skill set in terms of his range of passing that we probably lack in the midfield area, and adds some additional quality from set pieces as well, which can't hurt.

But like Barnes, whilst he's a good option who adds depth in a key position, he doesn't obviously improve the first eleven, and we're going to need more than just squad reinforcements to get over the line. This is a signing that only really stacks up because it keeps budget aside for the sort of signing who really addresses our shortcomings in the final third - not on its own.

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Post by Nonayforever » Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:30 pm

Obviously not seen him recently, but if he still harbours the same desire that he had in the PL then he will be a good signing.
Laurent is good but is caught flat footed too many times, I expect Shelvey to be on his toes going forward which should increase pressure on opposition defences.

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Post by beddie » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:08 pm

From memory he could really hit a dead ball, hopefully he’s still got that in his game. He’ll be giving Brownhill some lessons.

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:08 pm

Probably the slowest player we could have signed but ultra aggressive with a hard shot and good long range passing. Got to be an upgrade on Laurent, who remains useful but frankly isn’t a top of the league starter.

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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:10 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:08 pm
Probably the slowest player we could have signed but ultra aggressive with a hard shot and good long range passing. Got to be an upgrade on Laurent, who remains useful but frankly isn’t a top of the league starter.

But can Shelvey put in a shift defensively?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:39 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:10 pm
But can Shelvey put in a shift defensively?
Suppose that’s the test isn’t it and you pick and choose when he plays. For example Oxford away that finished 0-0, Oxford just camped in thier own half, we didn’t need a defensive midfielder, we needed someone who could play a killer pass or strike one from nowhere
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Post by alboclaret » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:46 pm

This is a good signing till end of season.

But slight niggle says to me brownhill may well be off before window closes or we are expect an offer for him which we will no doubt accept and this is covering our back a bit.
That would be a shame but good planning of that's the case.

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Post by Spijed » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:47 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:10 pm
But can Shelvey put in a shift defensively?
Putting in a "shift" was always the requirement of any Mick McCarthy player :)

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Post by Dazzler » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:49 pm

gtclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:39 pm
It's not Shelvey,it's that bloke from The Flying Pickets, we've been conned
I've always thought Shelvey is the spitting image of Sal Solo.

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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:52 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:47 pm
Putting in a "shift" was always the requirement of any Mick McCarthy player :)

You may have to explain that. Can he defend? And did he always put a shift in for all the clubs he's played for?

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Post by Stonehouse » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:00 pm

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Post by Spijed » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:01 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:52 pm
You may have to explain that. Can he defend? And did he always put a shift in for all the clubs he's played for?
It's what he always used to say:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/17020041

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Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:14 pm

I think this is an astute signing.

He was a terrific player a few seasons ago, and if he’s still half as good as he was, he’ll be a real asset in this league.

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Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:04 am

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:01 pm
It's what he always used to say:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/17020041

But is this relevant?

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Post by NottsClaret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:16 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:14 pm
Not sure about this one at all. His career looks to be on the wane.
There's no doubt it is. But he spent his peak career playing in the Prem - with the odd England appearance. Unlikely he'd have signed for the 3rd best team in the 2nd division at that time.

Just remains to be seen if he's a Mitchel Thomas / Phil Bardsley signing.. or a Jon Walters / Dale Stephens.

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Post by NickBFC » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:33 am

If he can stay fit and still has the fight, then I am sure he'll be an excellent addition. Really rated him a few years ago - exactly the sort of player we need.

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Post by equinox » Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:24 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:59 pm
Forest mate says he was a bad egg there and Worrall in particular won't be pleased. Don't shoot the messenger.
See you then Joe

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Re: ARTICLE:Shelvey joins the Clarets

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:40 pm

I think this has all the makings of being a good signing. I think there has been games where we have had a lot of the ball but failed to break down teams that have effectively parked the bus. Someone who can knock the ball about may well help improve our attack. He is no cost in terms of transfer and only here for 4 months, so not much of a risk really.

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