SUPER CLARETS vs DIRTY LEEDS - Match Thread

[Herts Clarets]

Neither side wanted to lose that.
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We certainly didn't look like we wanted to win it. Or indeed have a clue how to go about it.

[ElectroClaret]

A run of very winnable games coming up.... we've GOT to
start taking maximum points from them though.

[Colburn_Claret]

Nothing wrong with the result, but the performance was another pathetic effort at home.
Why the hell is Parker so frightened to have a go, you can't mount attacks sitting on the back foot 90% of the game.

He might be happy, the players might be happy, but I'm not. I'd rather have lost going for it, than roll over and have our belly tickled again. Rubbish.

[tarkys_ears]

Never seen a manager who just sat there not giving a **** so long as it stayed 0-0.

How can a "professional" sportsman have that kind of mentality? What a cuck.

[Hedontplayforyou]

If Shelvey is fit it’s him in for Laurent at home for me from here on in. We have to go and win them all

[JimmyRobbo]

Started off as a very enjoyable game with both sides going for it.

We then cancelled each other out and it ended up being a dull ending. I'll take that. Much better to be where we are and not give one of our main competitors anything to stretch ahead.

Solid a professional.

Funnily, DL fans are criticisng their team online, too.

[Murger]

What are the odds of a repeat performance against the mighty Oxford next week?

[burnley007]

We dreamed under VK
We snooze under Parker.

[TPClaret]

Feck me saying you’d rather lose going for it. It’s about getting out of the league. 1 point behind 2nd. God help us when we lose

[burnley007]

What are the odds of a repeat performance against the might Oxford next week?

98%.

[burnley007]

Go for it.
You either gain 2 points, or lose 1.

Parker, you are dull.

[jojomk1]

A run of very winnable games coming up.... we've GOT to
start taking maximum points from them though.

We had plenty of "winnable" games earlier on in the season

But didn't

[willsclarets]

Playing for a draw at home is a tad disappointing, but even with the amount of ball we did have we just used it terribly. Particularly in the second half we looked clueless when we had opportunities to go forward.

On the flipside, yet again we were incredible defensively. Leeds never looked like scoring and they almost always do.

Swings and roundabouts. We get the results, but it can be frustrating to watch such a lack of ambition at home

[expoultryboy]

Unfortunately we haven't got a midfielder play a defence splitting ball . Onwards and upwards , 4 points off the mighty Leeds this season .

[JimmyRobbo]

We dreamed under VK
We snooze under Parker.

No we didn't. This forum was extremely critical of VK's early months. Then hated his football in the prem. Actually, most of the games fans were critical until it kicked in during that November run.

[expoultryboy]

Who can

[Newcastleclaret93]

Playing for a draw at home is a tad disappointing, but even with the amount of ball we did have we just used it terribly. Particularly in the second half we looked clueless when we had opportunities to go forward.

On the flipside, yet again we were incredible defensively. Leeds never looked like scoring and they almost always do.

Swings and roundabouts. We get the results, but it can be frustrating to watch such a lack of ambition at home

Not all on us

Both teams were poor tonight with neither team wanting to push for a winner.

Both teams came for a draw and they got it

[PremierLeagueClass]

Good result. Sh1te game. Painful going forward. Outstanding defensively. Nicely positioned for the next run of games.

That sums it up.

[Dyched]

Given our inability to score, well even have a decent effort at home, I’ve no idea how people are looking at the fixture lost and thinking “winnable”.

[Colburn_Claret]

If Shelvey is fit it’s him in for Laurent at home for me from here on in. We have to go and win them all

Only it isn't Laurent that stops us from winning it's the manager, and anyone who can't see it yet has their head stuck somewhere dark and sticky.

[FCBurnley]

Prior to this round of matches Sunderland and Sheff U were home to bottom 6 teams. We were home to top team
Sunderland got a point. Blades got 0 points Burnley and Leeds both got a point. So a great weekend for us and Leeds. Gotta look at the big picture guys

[JimmyRobbo]

Go for it.
You either gain 2 points, or lose 1.

Parker, you are dull.

Not against your oppo.
Draw and you're as was.
Go for it and you're more likely to lose that point and your competitors gain 2.

Look at the Elland Rd result. It'll help explain the issue.

[ElectroClaret]

We had plenty of "winnable" games earlier on in the season

But didn't

Which is why I said we've got to start doing.

[Indecisive]

Nothing to do with us at all though of course, right?

Yeah we played well at Plymouth. For me we’ve played ok tonight. We haven’t created chances, but this Leeds and Plymouth are literally chalk and cheese. Another imperious performance from our centre halves

In some ways I think Leeds have tempered the way they normally play and arguably in doing so have shown us some respect. Actually think if they’d opened up as they have at times, we’d have had a better chance of nicking a goal.

Do think both managers probably on balance saw that by taking the game on more, there was too much of a risk of losing.

For what it’s worth I think that was probably the best two teams in the league today.

We’ve took 4 points against the best of the other 23 teams in this league. I’m definitely not going to view tonight as negative as many on here are apparently.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Only it isn't Laurent that stops us from winning it's the manager, and anyone who can't see it yet has their head stuck somewhere dark and sticky.

Never said it was Laurent who stops us, however Shelvey would give us a much better passing range and a bit more creativity

[willsclarets]

Not all on us

Both teams were poor tonight with neither team wanting to push for a winner.

Both teams came for a draw and they got it

I don't think Leeds lacked ambition to win it, just the necessary pass or nous to break our lines

[DAVETHEVICAR]

Fantastic point against the best team in the League

[StuWestMidsClaret]

[StuWestMidsClaret]

They haven't won the league yet have they??

[Newcastleclaret93]

I don't think Leeds lacked ambition to win it, just the necessary pass or nous to break our lines

They definitely tailored there game plan tonight.

They are usually much more aggressive. They definitely didn’t press as much as they usually do.

[AmbleClaret]

Never said it was Laurent who stops us, however Shelvey would give us a much better passing range and a bit more creativity

New signing,from Turkish league,is suddenly our saviour. Can only happen on this board.

[burnley007]

New signing,from Turkish league,is suddenly our saviour. Can only happen on this board.

A 32yo free transfer from Turkey...

[tarkys_ears]

Well we've just handed the league win to Leeds

Were 3rd


Wonder what the best defensive record is for a team that doesn't get promoted?

[RVclaret]

Well we've just handed the league win to Leeds

Were 3rd


Wonder what the best defensive record is for a team that doesn't get promoted?

We are three points behind them ffs. Are you being purposely dumb?

[StuWestMidsClaret]

And we have an easier next set of 6 games.

[FCBurnley]

I will take take 4 points off Leeds every season especially when they don’t even score over 180 mins

[Colburn_Claret]

Never said it was Laurent who stops us, however Shelvey would give us a much better passing range and a bit more creativity

Pass to who, everybody is on the edge of our box. Just listen to the post match pundits. The way we set up, is brilliant defensively, but it kills our attacking options. We have to leave 1 or 2 forward to counter, it's awful to watch, dull as dishwater, and so predictable.
It is so easy to fix, and all it takes is courage.

[Volvoclaret]

We've just taken 4pts off DL and currently 3 pts off top place with a team that has been put together ad hoc after the disaster of last season. God, some people have no concept of what Parker is achieving.

[Hibsclaret]

I’m pretty sure most of us would have taken a club record run of 7 clean sheets and 20 in 29 games after the defending last season. Absolutely incredible given the late August situation around the club.

[TsarBomba]

Interesting post match interview by Parker. I think it’s the first time, certainly that I’ve seen, Parker admitting our lack of goals is an issue.

[Conroy92]

I think the fans stink a bit. Top of the League. Great result.
Probably why were not firing at home if the general support is like this.

[Murger]

I think the fans stink a bit. Top of the League. Great result.
Probably why were not firing at home if the general support is like this.

We’re crap at home coz of the fans?

[Colburn_Claret]

I’m pretty sure most of us would have taken a club record run of 7 clean sheets and 20 in 29 games after the defending last season. Absolutely incredible given the late August situation around the club.

We've also failed to score in 11 games, against some pretty poor sides as well.
It s all well and good praising the defence, but our attack is toothless. I'll say again it isn't the players, it's Parker.

Does anyone really care if we break clean sheet records, if at the end of the day we don't get promotion.
I'd take a 2-1 win any day over a 0-0 bore draw.

[TPClaret]

Interesting post match interview by Parker. I think it’s the first time, certainly that I’ve seen, Parker admitting our lack of goals is an issue.

No Sherlock. He’s not stupid

[GetIntoEm]

Decent point for me, clearly set up not to concede and nick one if possible. I've no major issues with that.

Was a very meh game tho

[Hedontplayforyou]

New signing,from Turkish league,is suddenly our saviour. Can only happen on this board.

Nowhere was it mentioned that Shelvey was the saviour, but if you can’t see that neither Laurent nor Brownhill can unlock a defence then that’s fine, but the 0-0s speak for themselves. It’s not all down to those players but adding someone with something slightly different won’t do any harm either .

[Conroy92]

We’re crap at home coz of the fans?

No. But i can't help think the atmosphere isnt helping.
And if that was crap. Get a massive reality check.

[Tricky Trevor]

Yet again our major downfall. Josh Brownhill was 76%.

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[BigGaz]

It's a great point against a team that I think will go on to be champions.

With that said, I'm a little disappointed. Firstly in Leeds and this big attacking threat that they have. Don't know whether it's themselves talking themselves up or if we're one of a small bunch of teams with a competent defence. Either way, they were nothing special and they didn't seem that bothered trying to make a statement or just win.

I'm also a bit disappointed that we offered next to nothing in terms of an attacking threat. I understand we played a good side but it does occasionally feel like the attacking logic is "go forwards, but only after exhausting all options for a safe pass or a pass backwards".

[Newcastleclaret93]

Yet again our major downfall. Josh Brownhill was 76%.
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I think the better stat is where did they touch the ball the most.

Heat maps show only Anthony and Flemming averaged more touches in the opposition half