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Set Pieces

Post by colne-claret » Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:50 pm

How are we so poor at attacking set pieces? Surely got to be the worst record in the football league. I don’t remember last time we scored from a corner, we offer zero threat from them. That Flemming/Humphreys cock up sums us up with set pieces.

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:55 pm

I thought they were a bit better today

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by what_no_pies » Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:06 pm

We have two dominant centre halves that rarely even acknowledge the ball in the other box. Attacking set pieces have been a real weakness for some time now. Mercifully we can defend them at the moment.
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Re: Set Pieces

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:32 pm

what_no_pies wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:06 pm
We have two dominant centre halves that rarely even acknowledge the ball in the other box. Attacking set pieces have been a real weakness for some time now. Mercifully we can defend them at the moment.
I specifically watched Esteve at a couple and he just stood still and let the oppo player boss him. Not good enough.

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by Goliath » Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:35 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:50 pm
How are we so poor at attacking set pieces? Surely got to be the worst record in the football league. I don’t remember last time we scored from a corner, we offer zero threat from them. That Flemming/Humphreys cock up sums us up with set pieces.
Flemming seems to have got away with that mix up. It was properly crap from him, how's he not anticipated that Humphreys might miss it, you learn that at under 8's
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Re: Set Pieces

Post by dougcollins » Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:51 pm

The Set Piece Coach was booked today, though I don't know if it was for a contravention of his job description.
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Re: Set Pieces

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:00 pm

Maybe our luck will change if the set piece coach remains in his seat.

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by NewClaret » Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:05 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:51 pm
The Set Piece Coach was booked today, though I don't know if it was for a contravention of his job description.
I’ve given him a lot of credit for his defensive set piece organisation, but it’s a shame he wasn’t sent off and given a season long ban where our attacking ability is concerned.

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:05 pm

When was the last time we scored from a corner? Luton?

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by aggi » Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:16 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:35 pm
Flemming seems to have got away with that mix up. It was properly crap from him, how's he not anticipated that Humphreys might miss it, you learn that at under 8's
Looked to me like Flemming claimed it but Humphreys went for it anyway and took it away from him.

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by Goliath » Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:23 pm

aggi wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:16 pm
Looked to me like Flemming claimed it but Humphreys went for it anyway and took it away from him.
Humphreys was ahead of him and jumped but missed the header, Flemming turned away failing to anticipate that Humphreys might miss it or it might still reach him. It's a poor piece of play.

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by dougcollins » Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:34 pm

aggi wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:16 pm
Looked to me like Flemming claimed it but Humphreys went for it anyway and took it away from him.
Poor all round. Flemming just doesn't have a natural striker's instinct.
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Re: Set Pieces

Post by Casper2 » Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:35 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:55 pm
I thought they were a bit better today
Seriously, does that include the two which were kicked straight out for goal kicks ?

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by Goliath » Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:40 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:35 pm
Seriously, does that include the two which were kicked straight out for goal kicks ?
My favourite was when we took a short corner, had the cross blocked then tried to put a long throw in the box :lol:
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Re: Set Pieces

Post by dandeclaret » Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:44 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:50 pm
How are we so poor at attacking set pieces? Surely got to be the worst record in the football league. I don’t remember last time we scored from a corner, we offer zero threat from them. That Flemming/Humphreys cock up sums us up with set pieces.
They’ll add it to the long list of things Burnley fans think Burnley fc are **** at on a football pitch, despite being high in the table, breaking records and losing 5 in 102 games at this level. Either the club have got it wrong, or the team and its facets aren’t as bad as too many fans think.
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Re: Set Pieces

Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:55 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:35 pm
Seriously, does that include the two which were kicked straight out for goal kicks ?
There were a couple of wide ones which were good balls in.

I'm forgiving CJs effort

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:12 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:32 pm
I specifically watched Esteve at a couple and he just stood still and let the oppo player boss him. Not good enough.
I’ve noticed this before and it happens so often, I’m wondering if it’s intentional

He’s our tallest outfield player, so if he’s taking the attention of the opposing strongest defender, then it should, in theory, leave our other players with “weaker” markers

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by beddie » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:39 pm

I’ve often thought we should have Esteve just inside the 18 yard box and coming running in from our corner, we never use his height enough in these situations.

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by dougcollins » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:40 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:12 pm
I’ve noticed this before and it happens so often, I’m wondering if it’s intentional

He’s our tallest outfield player, so if he’s taking the attention of the opposing strongest defender, then it should, in theory, leave our other players with “weaker” markers
Yes, I think that's the plan.

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by HuncoatClaret » Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:49 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:05 pm
When was the last time we scored from a corner? Luton?
Yes, Dara O'Shea.

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by warksclaret » Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:05 am

Its because we dick about with a different kicker each time. Most teams, particularly in the PL have someone with a very cultured foot and he takes the great majority of these. Plus we dont have anyone who can bend a ball over or round the wall. Hannibal, Anthony are not the answer, neither is Brownhill-we might as well give the opposition possession, and yes we need to attack the ball-how many games have we seen Flemming simply totally miss connection when it was his ball

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by mdd2 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:07 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:44 pm
They’ll add it to the long list of things Burnley fans think Burnley fc are **** at on a football pitch, despite being high in the table, breaking records and losing 5 in 102 games at this level. Either the club have got it wrong, or the team and its facets aren’t as bad as too many fans think.
It is this season that counts. Beaten twice in 33 games-not scored in 13 games of which 11 were in our 14 draws and it is our home form that will in all probability see us fail to get automatic with 8 wins and 8 draws at home averaging 2 points per game marginally better than our away form which thus far is 1.94/game. The away form is slightly better than our two seasons promoted under SD but poorer than 2022-23 but then would be hard to emulate that season. SD's promotions saw us get 51pts at home and that I suggest is unlikely to be beaten unless we win all our remaining 7 home fixtures.
Afraid the portents are not good IMO for automatic promotion and playoffs are a real lottery; it is more likely the draws rather than defeats that will cost us-but with 13 games to go it is still in our hands-well Traffords, the rest, feet and heads!!!

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by MT03ALG » Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:18 am

Play-Offs are ok for this Burnley Team:
Home Semi-Final: 0-0
Away Semi-Final: 0-0
Penalties: win 1-0
Final: 0-0
Penalties: win 1-0
Easy ;) ;)

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by dandeclaret » Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:34 am

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:07 am
It is this season that counts. Beaten twice in 33 games-not scored in 13 games of which 11 were in our 14 draws and it is our home form that will in all probability see us fail to get automatic with 8 wins and 8 draws at home averaging 2 points per game marginally better than our away form which thus far is 1.94/game. The away form is slightly better than our two seasons promoted under SD but poorer than 2022-23 but then would be hard to emulate that season. SD's promotions saw us get 51pts at home and that I suggest is unlikely to be beaten unless we win all our remaining 7 home fixtures.
Afraid the portents are not good IMO for automatic promotion and playoffs are a real lottery; it is more likely the draws rather than defeats that will cost us-but with 13 games to go it is still in our hands-well Traffords, the rest, feet and heads!!!
In all probability? It’s a toss of a coin between she’d husband Burnley…. If you want to bet “in all
Probabilities” on toss of a coin’s then be my guest.

The away form, that you put as being slightly better….. isn’t it the best in the whole football league?

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:41 am

On limited evidence this is another reason why Edwards should be starting.

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Re: Set Pieces

Post by mdd2 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:43 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:34 am
In all probability? It’s a toss of a coin between she’d husband Burnley…. If you want to bet “in all
Probabilities” on toss of a coin’s then be my guest.

The away form, that you put as being slightly better….. isn’t it the best in the whole football league?
It is which is why I am suggesting we will be undone by our home form in missing out on a top two finish.
We are heading at present for 91pt finish and I think that is play off territory this season; but who knows?

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