Would our owners know past players?

[Quickenthetempo]

After watching today's episode of the Overlap with Ruud Gullit, he speaks of being at a UEFA cup draw or similar. He went over to meet the new Chelsea owners, who hadn't a clue who he was or that he played and managed Chelsea.
He spoke of Graeme Souness being furious at Liverpool's owners for not knowing who he was.

Do you think our owners are clued up on our history and ex players?

[ClaretTony]

After watching today's episode of the Overlap with Ruud Gullit, he speaks of being at a UEFA cup draw or similar. He went over to meet the new Chelsea owners, who hadn't a clue who he was or that he played and managed Chelsea.
He spoke of Graeme Souness being furious at Liverpool's owners for not knowing who he was.

Do you think our owners are clued up on our history and ex players?

No is the answer to that

[Row x]

After watching today's episode of the Overlap with Ruud Gullit, he speaks of being at a UEFA cup draw or similar. He went over to meet the new Chelsea owners, who hadn't a clue who he was or that he played and managed Chelsea.
He spoke of Graeme Souness being furious at Liverpool's owners for not knowing who he was.

Do you think our owners are clued up on our history and ex players?

Perhaps not the encyclopedic knowledge some claim to have, but probably the same as the average fan

[Venkys4eva]

Perhaps not the encyclopedic knowledge some claim to have, but probably the same as the average fan

This - and its enough

[fidelcastro]

Perhaps not the encyclopedic knowledge some claim to have, but probably the same as the average fan

I doubt it's anywhere near the same as the average fan.

[ClaretTony]

Perhaps not the encyclopedic knowledge some claim to have, but probably the same as the average fan

Nothing like the average fan but you wouldn’t expect them to

[Devils_Advocate]

Mr Pace would probably know more than the average fan. He has a good relationship with most of the old players who still live in the area and/or still visit the Turf. Speaks regularly to a lot of them and they all seem to have a lot of time for him

[The Shire Claret]

He knows Glen Little and that’s good enough for me

[Quickenthetempo]

I wouldn't expect them to know more ex players than the average fan, maybe new fans from the same timeframe.

They must meet the half time guests and any matchday corporate speaker that played for us.
The directors box doesn't seem to host any ex players like yesteryear.

It takes some doing not knowing someone like Gullit though. He was the world's best player at one time.

[cblantfanclub]

What a rubbish nit picking thread to start.

[k90bfc]

Put the old players portraits back up all around Turf Moor,outside walls,they were removed to the disgust of all us older lifelong fans,with no notice,even today,past players familys attend the games,with their children who would love a photo showing their Grandad,the future is important,but so is the past,UTC.

[Venkys4eva]

Put the old players portraits back up all around Turf Moor,outside walls,they were removed to the disgust of all us older lifelong fans,with no notice,even today,past players familys attend the games,with their children who would love a photo showing their Grandad,the future is important,but so is the past,UTC.

Are you joking? They looked shite its much better now.

[Row x]

I doubt it's anywhere near the same as the average fan.

I've been a fan since the 60s, season ticket holder since 72.
I know the cups and titles we've won, which I'm sure Pace does
I can't name the line ups of those teams, even though I was there for many, I doubt Pace can either
I know the names of major players over the years, not sure I'd recognise them if I saw them now. But would from how they used to look.
What more does the average fan know? ( without reference to Google, or sites like this)

[fidelcastro]

I've been a fan since the 60s, season ticket holder since 72.
I know the cups and titles we've won, which I'm sure Pace does
I can't name the line ups of those teams, even though I was there for many, I doubt Pace can either
I know the names of major players over the years, not sure I'd recognise them if I saw them now. But would from how they used to look.
What more does the average fan know? ( without reference to Google, or sites like this)

I think I can safely say I'd beat Alan Pace in a Burnley FC quiz on past/present players and games.

[fidelcastro]

Are you joking? They looked shite its much better now.

They didn't look shite at all.

Is black your favourite colour or something?

[cblantfanclub]

I've been going on the turf since 1961 and I'm sure you'd beat me Fidel.

[fidelcastro]

I've been going on the turf since 1961 and I'm sure you'd beat me Fidel.

I think you must mean because your memory isn't what it was. That's fair enough. It's not because you didn't attend or ever care about past players and matches like our owners won't.

[Enola Gay]

Why would/should they?

[Row x]

I think I can safely say I'd beat Alan Pace in a Burnley FC quiz on past/present players and games.

Perhaps you're not an average fan then

Or you could just be telling porkies

[fidelcastro]

Perhaps you're not an average fan then

Or you could just be telling porkies

No. I'm not telling porkies.

Why are you so quick to defend everything about the owners?

[Quickenthetempo]

What a rubbish nit picking thread to start.

Feel free to start a thread of your own, that's better than this one.

[GetIntoEm]

They didn't look shite at all.

Is black your favourite colour or something?

From a aesthetics point of view they did look shite. Different styles, some colour, some black and white (obviously), different resolutions and aspect ratios.

The idea was good, the execution was poor. If they had all been stylised in the same way it could have looked mint

[fidelcastro]

From a aesthetics point of view they did look shite. Different styles, some colour, some black and white (obviously), different resolutions and aspect ratios.

The idea was good, the execution was poor. If they had all been stylised in the same way it could have looked mint

Better than what we have now.

[giveusaB]

Any update on a new location for the removed player pics?

[cblantfanclub]

"Feel free to start a thread of your own, that's better than this one."

Strange irrelevant answer that offers no further insight into your POV. I've no desire to start a thread just giving an opinion on yours which as you've put it up in public deserves some scrutiny and it's apparent pettiness is something I felt, rightly or wrongly.
On reflection I probably could.

[GetIntoEm]

Any update on a new location for the removed player pics?

Tony said they knew where they were and there was a plan about 6 months ago but quiet since

They won't go back up on the ground I wouldn't have thought

[GetIntoEm]

Better than what we have now.

Many would disagree.

The ground actually looks quite tidy, fresh and modern as it looks now. At least the best it can

[aggi]

I heard that Pace has all those player boards up at his house so that he can swot up on his past player knowledge.

[Row x]

No. I'm not telling porkies.

Why are you so quick to defend everything about the owners?

To have average fans, there has to be above average fans, who have a knowledge similar to what you're claiming, so don't be insulted or defensive

In answer to your question. Because I think they are doing a good job,.

[Venkys4eva]

Many would disagree.

The ground actually looks quite tidy, fresh and modern as it looks now. At least the best it can

I think it looks much better now.

[Devils_Advocate]

One of the big problems with the player portraits was that that it was unclear whether the players were considered hero's or legends and thus caused a lot of confusion.

[JR1882]

It’s not really a fair comparison, our owners won’t know previous League 1/2 players will they, clearly. However anyone taking over a top club should be aware of who Gullit is if he played for them.

[GetIntoEm]

One of the big problems with the player portraits was that that it was unclear whether the players were considered hero's or legends and thus caused a lot of confusion.

Probably the most sensible thing you've ever said

[Jambounchained]

Is that the sound of a barrel I can hear being scraped?

Utterly ridiculous thread.

[Boss Hogg]

After watching today's episode of the Overlap with Ruud Gullit, he speaks of being at a UEFA cup draw or similar. He went over to meet the new Chelsea owners, who hadn't a clue who he was or that he played and managed Chelsea.
He spoke of Graeme Souness being furious at Liverpool's owners for not knowing who he was.

Do you think our owners are clued up on our history and ex players?

Doesn’t surprise me that Souness was annoyed that someone didn’t know who he was.

[Rowls]

As long as the club is well run, we should probably make allowances if Alan Pace doesn't recognise Mark Ford or Neil Wood.

[fidelcastro]

To have average fans, there has to be above average fans, who have a knowledge similar to what you're claiming, so don't be insulted or defensive

In answer to your question. Because I think they are doing a good job,.

Yes, I know plenty of fans with above knowledge. They're not hard to find.

As for the owners. I'm guessing you're okay with the recent accounts and the level of debt?

[Quickenthetempo]

Is that the sound of a barrel I can hear being scraped?

Utterly ridiculous thread.

Another pointless poster.

[fidelcastro]

As long as the club is well run, we should probably make allowances if Alan Pace doesn't recognise Mark Ford or Neil Wood.

That's kind of the point though. The owners won't have heard of players like that, therefore their "knowledge" on the history of our club can't be on a par with the average fan, can it?

At the time the players you mentioned played for us, I doubt the owners will have heard of Burnley Football Club either.

[Rowls]

We clearly need to draw up a 'name the player' quiz for the directors.

And it MUST include Neil Wood and Mark Ford. Nobody tell them which one is which.

This is vital.

[fidelcastro]

We clearly need to draw up a 'name the player' quiz for the directors.

And it MUST include Neil Wood and Mark Ford. Nobody tell them which one is which.

This is vital.

Or we could just accept that when it comes to historical players (good or bad) the fans will have better and longer memories, as they were here and the owners weren't.

Let's just move on.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Probably no different for most owners I would imagine.

[GetIntoEm]

I'm not sure Garlick and co would have had a clue either.

Waiting for someone to tell me he was in a WhatsApp group with Jean Louis Valois and Rune Vindheim

[Burnleyareback2]

Probably more essential is preparing the future than the past. Would they even know the last 40 years of owners?

I think they have a good grasp of our heritage, importance in the town etc I’d rather their energy was spent plotting the next season than knowing that we once had Leon Cort.

[Vegas Claret]

I wouldn't expect owners to know a bunch of players who used to play for the club, it's a business not a pub quiz

[SlidingTackle]

Doesn’t surprise me that Souness was annoyed that someone didn’t know who he was.

Even Yosser Hughes knew who Graeme Souness was....

[Row x]

Yes, I know plenty of fans with above knowledge. They're not hard to find.

As for the owners. I'm guessing you're okay with the recent accounts and the level of debt?

The Maquire chap, who is normally very negative about Burnley, is actually positive about the latest accounts, so must be looking ok

You're obviously a clever chap, so simple question.
At the time the present owners acquired the club.....what was the alternative?....sensible answers only please.

[NottsClaret]

Worth pointing out that Gullit was fine about the Chelsea owner not knowing who he was and told the Souness tale as a funny story.

[Goalkeeper]

Our local has a new owner, and he didn't know Maisy, who was a really popular landlady in the 90s. Hard to believe isn't it....

[claretonthecoast1882]

The spirit of Royston Vasey lives on.

You start to wonder when those with a dislike borderline hatred for the owners will start to bore themselves as well as others with their little snipes and constant bitching