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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Row x » Sun May 25, 2025 3:09 pm

DanH90 wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 3:05 pm
I think the fact this didn’t even warrant an article on this site is a real shame. I appreciate that some don’t have an interest in the woman’s game, but as a site that alleges to be a proponent of all news about the Clarets, the women’s team becoming full time is big news. Far bigger than the U18 fixtures mid season IMHO.

This attitude is the reason the women’s game has struggled for so long! Let’s allow the quality to improve by getting behind it and allowing our daughters and granddaughters to become part of something hopefully of real quality in future!
I don't think there's ever been an article about the women's team on here
I've only been to one game, and it was ok, always look out for the results as it's part of our football club.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by equinox » Sun May 25, 2025 3:19 pm

You'd have to pay ME to watch women's football and even then I'd leave as soon as the gates opened.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by fidelcastro » Sun May 25, 2025 3:33 pm

equinox wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 3:19 pm
You'd have to pay ME to watch women's football and even then I'd leave as soon as the gates opened.
Thankfully no one is forcing you, and better still, no one is paying you!

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by DanH90 » Sun May 25, 2025 3:39 pm

equinox wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 3:19 pm
You'd have to pay ME to watch women's football and even then I'd leave as soon as the gates opened.
Ironic username.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by GetIntoEm » Sun May 25, 2025 3:48 pm

Fantastic news. Hopefully they can kick on

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Winstonswhite » Sun May 25, 2025 4:11 pm

DanH90 wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 3:05 pm
I think the fact this didn’t even warrant an article on this site is a real shame. I appreciate that some don’t have an interest in the woman’s game, but as a site that alleges to be a proponent of all news about the Clarets, the women’s team becoming full time is big news. Far bigger than the U18 fixtures mid season IMHO.

This attitude is the reason the women’s game has struggled for so long! Let’s allow the quality to improve by getting behind it and allowing our daughters and granddaughters to become part of something hopefully of real quality in future!
I’m sure the mods would have no problem with someone writing an article(s) about the women’s side. Why don’t you do it?
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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Cooclaret » Sun May 25, 2025 4:17 pm

It’s simple for me.

They’re both BFC teams, and like the youth teams I support them.

The hypocrisy of some and even worse some of the comments are laughable.

Wait for the inevitable two week sit down.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by NottsClaret » Sun May 25, 2025 4:28 pm

Nah.. you can't ask anyone to be interested in it or push it. I've got into it as my daughter's been playing and appreciate it for what it is, but prior to that I'd probably have had the same lack of interest as many do. Hopefully I wouldn't have been so unnecessarily 'look at me' disrespectful about it, but that attitude almost always comes from the men least able to play at any sort of level. Or just women hating weirdos like Joey Barton.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun May 25, 2025 5:03 pm

The thing is, those that criticise women’s football saying it’s rubbish quality, are comparing it to the mens game. It needs to be watched as a separate game format

You wouldn’t an u18 men’s game and say the players aren’t up to the same standard of the 1st team, just like you wouldn’t watch the women’s 100m relay and say it’s not as fast as the men’s 100m relay

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by GetIntoEm » Sun May 25, 2025 5:04 pm

A local chairman would never have let this happen

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by equinox » Sun May 25, 2025 5:11 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 5:03 pm
The thing is, those that criticise women’s football saying it’s rubbish quality, are comparing it to the mens game. It needs to be watched as a separate game format

You wouldn’t an u18 men’s game and say the players aren’t up to the same standard of the 1st team, just like you wouldn’t watch the women’s 100m relay and say it’s not as fast as the men’s 100m relay
The women's pole vault is superior to the men's.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun May 25, 2025 5:16 pm

equinox wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 5:11 pm
The women's pole vault is superior to the men's.
Your reasoning for that?

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by equinox » Sun May 25, 2025 5:23 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 5:16 pm
Your reasoning for that?
Don't know really, just find it more interesting.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Rileybobs » Sun May 25, 2025 5:34 pm

The problem I have with a lot of views that express a dislike for women’s football is the theme of misogyny, as just illustrated by equinox.
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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by equinox » Sun May 25, 2025 5:40 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 5:34 pm
The problem I have with a lot of views that express a dislike for women’s football is the theme of misogyny, as just illustrated by equinox.
Oh ffs, this messageboard.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Rileybobs » Sun May 25, 2025 5:42 pm

equinox wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 5:40 pm
Oh ffs, this messageboard.
Terrible isn’t it. Can’t even be misogynistic without being called out for it.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Dazzler » Sun May 25, 2025 6:15 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 5:42 pm
Terrible isn’t it. Can’t even be misogynistic without being called out for it.
What is misogynistic about not wanting to watch Women play football?

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Dazzler » Sun May 25, 2025 6:20 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 5:16 pm
Your reasoning for that?
More pleasing on the eye? :D

Or is that misogynistic?

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by agreenwood » Sun May 25, 2025 6:29 pm

There’s nothing people who don’t like women’s football love more than to tell you so.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Dazzler » Sun May 25, 2025 6:39 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 6:29 pm
There’s nothing people who don’t like women’s football love more than to tell you so.
Are you trying to say that every football fan should enjoy watching Women's football?

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Rileybobs » Sun May 25, 2025 6:40 pm

Dazzler wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 6:15 pm
What is misogynistic about not wanting to watch Women play football?
Absolutely nothing. I don’t really have any interest in watching it myself. I was referring to equinox’s comment about female pole vaulting which is obviously misogynistic.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Dazzler » Sun May 25, 2025 6:43 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 6:40 pm
I was referring to equinox’s comment about female pole vaulting which is obviously misogynistic.
No, you weren't.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Rileybobs » Sun May 25, 2025 6:46 pm

Dazzler wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 6:43 pm
No, you weren't.
Yes I was, which is why I directly referred to equinox in my post. Read it back.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Dazzler » Sun May 25, 2025 6:51 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 6:46 pm
Yes I was, which is why I directly referred to equinox in my post. Read it back.
I took the quote as tongue-in-cheek. Why couldn't you?

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Rileybobs » Sun May 25, 2025 6:54 pm

Dazzler wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 6:51 pm
I took the quote as tongue-in-cheek. Why couldn't you?
I took the comment as it was. Not sure why I should take it for anything else?

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Dazzler » Sun May 25, 2025 7:02 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 6:54 pm
I took the comment as it was. Not sure why I should take it for anything else?
Crikey, I'll say no more. stay safe
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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun May 25, 2025 7:19 pm

I think if there is a demand for it then go for it.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by boatshed bill » Sun May 25, 2025 7:37 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 5:03 pm
The thing is, those that criticise women’s football saying it’s rubbish quality, are comparing it to the mens game. It needs to be watched as a separate game format

You wouldn’t an u18 men’s game and say the players aren’t up to the same standard of the 1st team, just like you wouldn’t watch the women’s 100m relay and say it’s not as fast as the men’s 100m relay


No, the thing is do enough people think it's exciting and entertaining.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun May 25, 2025 7:52 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 7:37 pm
No, the thing is do enough people think it's exciting and entertaining.
People do think it’s exciting and entertaining based on that’s it’s women’s football.

Those that don’t are basing it compared to men’s football

There’s nothing wrong with that. If you’ve watched men’s football long enough it’s only natural to do so but to discount women’s football solely on that basis is wrong.

I wonder how many of those discounting it would do so if their daughters or partners played

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by boatshed bill » Sun May 25, 2025 7:57 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 7:52 pm
People do think it’s exciting and entertaining based on that’s it’s women’s football.

Those that don’t are basing it compared to men’s football

There’s nothing wrong with that. If you’ve watched men’s football long enough it’s only natural to do so but to discount women’s football solely on that basis is wrong.

I wonder how many of those discounting it would do so if their daughters or partners played

I'm not discounting it. But if you are a "professional" at anything you have to be able to justify what you are professional at in terms of income created.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by aggi » Sun May 25, 2025 8:11 pm

DanH90 wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 3:05 pm
I think the fact this didn’t even warrant an article on this site is a real shame. I appreciate that some don’t have an interest in the woman’s game, but as a site that alleges to be a proponent of all news about the Clarets, the women’s team becoming full time is big news. Far bigger than the U18 fixtures mid season IMHO.

This attitude is the reason the women’s game has struggled for so long! Let’s allow the quality to improve by getting behind it and allowing our daughters and granddaughters to become part of something hopefully of real quality in future!
I kind of agree. But I also don't think it's down to CT to write articles on stuff he's not interested in.

It would be nice to have someone who is following our women's team closely to add articles to the site though. But that needs someone to volunteer.
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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by aggi » Sun May 25, 2025 8:15 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 2:49 pm
I found this but it's from seven years ago


The 11 clubs* who will be part of the FA WSL academy programme are (listed with their relevant TASS delivery site):

Arsenal / University of Hertfordshire
Birmingham City / University of Birmingham
Brighton & Hove Albion / University of Brighton
Bristol City / University of Gloucester
Chelsea / St Mary’s University
Liverpool and Everton / Liverpool John Moores University
Manchester City / Manchester Metropolitan University
Reading /Buckinghamshire New University
West Ham United / University of East London
Yeovil Town / University of Exeter

*In addition, The FA East Region U19 programme, in partnership with Ipswich Town, will also compete in the competition programme and plans are developing to establish a North East Academy for next season.
Ah, this is what I was thinking of

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Dazzler » Sun May 25, 2025 8:15 pm

As has been referenced, folks' concerns regarding Burnley Women going professional are the financial impact it may have on the men's team.
Which are also my concerns, too. If having a successful Women's team without being financially detrimental to the priority, then let it roll.

As I'm sure we've heard it before - we're Burnley, not Barcelona

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by HurstGrangeClaret » Mon May 26, 2025 5:34 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 7:57 pm
I'm not discounting it. But if you are a "professional" at anything you have to be able to justify what you are professional at in terms of income created.
This is the crux of it for me. Can the finance generated from ladies football justify the investment in it?
Not misogynistic to say that. Why should they get preferential treatment?
I hope Burnley ladies are successful, but this would be tempered by not at the expense of the men’s team.
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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by fatboy47 » Mon May 26, 2025 5:51 pm

HurstGrangeClaret wrote:
Mon May 26, 2025 5:34 pm
This is the crux of it for me. Can the finance generated from ladies football justify the investment in it?
Not misogynistic to say that. Why should they get preferential treatment?
I hope Burnley ladies are successful, but this would be tempered by not at the expense of the men’s team.
100% this.

The club and it's facilities being inclusive can only be a good thing if it's a sensible economic model.
Getting into a p1ssing contest with the clubs at the top of the food chain will only end up in tears.
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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by The Shire Claret » Mon May 26, 2025 5:52 pm

I watch UFC and Boxing quite a lot and the owner of UFC stated a few years ago we would ‘NEVER’ see a woman fighting in the UFC ….

Since then we have had numerous Female stars in the UFC and also in boxing selling out arenas and PPV’s …

Billions in revenue and he’s very much admits to eating his words

The quality of the top female fighters is high and very entertaining

The woman’s game will spark at some point and then it will be profitable … but it needs stars for that to happen …

I’m not massive on the woman’s game as I’ve said … it’s got a long way to go in terms of quality but it will come but without the funding and investment … it’s much less likley

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by boatshed bill » Mon May 26, 2025 8:20 pm

Having watched some of our ladies' games/ highlights I'd have to conclude that very few, if any, are really capable of justifying a wage which would allow them to see football as their only source of income. However, I believe a fair few of them have been released so perhaps we already have better players coming in.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by aggi » Mon May 26, 2025 9:06 pm

HurstGrangeClaret wrote:
Mon May 26, 2025 5:34 pm
This is the crux of it for me. Can the finance generated from ladies football justify the investment in it?
Not misogynistic to say that. Why should they get preferential treatment?
I hope Burnley ladies are successful, but this would be tempered by not at the expense of the men’s team.
If this is your criteria then in the men's championship you're going to have about three teams left. Most of the EFL teams are running at big losses.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue May 27, 2025 12:46 pm

As a cynic, we could charge certain facilities, maybe 50% of Gawthorpe costs to the Women's team, if that helps the men's team accounts.....

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by Cooclaret » Tue May 27, 2025 2:27 pm

HurstGrangeClaret wrote:
Mon May 26, 2025 5:34 pm
This is the crux of it for me. Can the finance generated from ladies football justify the investment in it?
Not misogynistic to say that. Why should they get preferential treatment?
I hope Burnley ladies are successful, but this would be tempered by not at the expense of the men’s team.
IMO it shouldn’t. It’s a loss leader to promote the club. But more so, the women’s games is decades behind the men’s and so needs a disproportionate level of investment to help it step up.

The same is true in cycling.

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Re: BFC Women Go Pro!

Post by dsr » Tue May 27, 2025 4:33 pm

DanH90 wrote:
Sun May 25, 2025 3:05 pm
I think the fact this didn’t even warrant an article on this site is a real shame. I appreciate that some don’t have an interest in the woman’s game, but as a site that alleges to be a proponent of all news about the Clarets, the women’s team becoming full time is big news. Far bigger than the U18 fixtures mid season IMHO.

This attitude is the reason the women’s game has struggled for so long! Let’s allow the quality to improve by getting behind it and allowing our daughters and granddaughters to become part of something hopefully of real quality in future!
We have a volunteer! :)

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