Summer transfer window

[Mattster]

He was involved in 51 match day squads in 23/24, he's missed about 20 games last season through injury which isn't unusual for a hamstring injury which if it's come at a busy period for a club like Liverpool challenging on all fronts then they soon clock up.
He's good enough and I'd have him over the other two every day of the week

That was his best season for fitness and matches, he still only started 17 games, coming off the bench in 15 more. Managing an average of 56 minutes per appearance.

Last season he started 6, coming off the bench in 3 more.

22/23 started 15 with further 6 sub appearances.

21/22 started 4 and a further 4 sub appearances.

20/21 started 6 and a further 1 sub appearance

He's missed around 2 seasons worth of matches in the last 5 through injury. 3 of the last 5 hasn't made more than 10 league appearances.And being on the bench/matchday squads isn't a great indicator as part of the reason he'll be on the bench will be he wasn't fit to start/was building his match fitness/managing his fitness.

If it's £25m for 20 league appearance from Gomez or £20m for 38 starts from THB or O'Shea I'm taking the latter everytime.

[Vegas Claret]

We didn't sign THB because he was too slow BUT that was in VK's expansive "let's pretend we are Barcelona" PL side - the way Parker will set us up I think THB would do well, gaps shouldn't be as big and he is a bit of a warrior type which we tend to appreciate. I suspect the problem would be an excessive fee.

[Vegas Claret]

This is from Corriere dello Sport

[Rileybobs]

This is from Corriere dello Sport

Sounds like a potato-based tapa dish.

[CrosspoolClarets]

This is from Corriere dello Sport

Yes please.

Full Argentina international, played loads for Lazio last season, strong, medium quick, good in the air, great finisher.

Must believe we have had encouragement in order to bid. Could be wanting to get an English move.

[Vegas Claret]

sadly looks like there's nothing much in it - here's the line from the article the ClaretXtra guy must have for it from
"Forty million for Taty . The agent , about ten days ago, showed up at Formello and tried to open the front for a transfer of the Argentine centre forward to the Premier League . It wasn't a written offer. The interest should belong to Burnley , newly promoted (with Leeds and Sunderland) from the Championship . Lazio stopped the discussion in its tracks, they didn't even open it and don't intend to continue it."

here's the article - https://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/ ... 40_milioni

[taio]

Not sure why Mattster is copping grief here. Clearly people within the club underestimated CJER’s potential for it to get to the position where he could leave for free. This isn’t hindsight, us fans are not tasked with managing these multi-million pound assets, that’s someone else’s job. Obviously mistakes happen, and this isn’t a real biggy, but let’s not pretend that the ball wasn’t dropped with CJER.

Yes, all he said was that he hopes lessons are learned. Nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure there will people inside the club who agree and will want to reduce the risk of it happening again.

[TsarBomba]

This is from Corriere dello Sport

Absolutely no chance of this happening.

[CrosspoolClarets]

sadly looks like there's nothing much in it - here's the line from the article the ClaretXtra guy must have for it from
"Forty million for Taty . The agent , about ten days ago, showed up at Formello and tried to open the front for a transfer of the Argentine centre forward to the Premier League . It wasn't a written offer. The interest should belong to Burnley , newly promoted (with Leeds and Sunderland) from the Championship . Lazio stopped the discussion in its tracks, they didn't even open it and don't intend to continue it."

here's the article - https://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/ ... 40_milioni

Well the talk was that with Sarri coming back he wants a different type of striker and the asking price was €30m-€35m euros. I cannot see a €40m offer being rebuffed so firmly, more likely a renegotiation of price and add ons. Whether the player sees his future better than us (almost certainly yes) is a very different issue.

[Vegas Claret]

Absolutely no chance of this happening.

agree, but I least I stuck to the point of the thread

[TsarBomba]

It is standard practice for clubs to extend young players' deals where clubs think they'll be able to get a fee or they'll develop. I'm not sure how this has passed you by.

In the post you've quoted here I've said "Not all" and then you go and post this. What's the point engaging with you any further?

How do you know we didn’t try and offer CJ an extension last Summer?

And it’s never been ‘standard’ practice to offer extensions to all young players that may develop or we get a fee for in the future. Where have you got this from?

So we’re going to keep a youth player for a number of years because we *might* get £10-50k for them in a number of years time? That’s nonsense, and you only need to look at who we released this summer to see we don’t do that.

If that was the case we would be keeping hold of the vast majority of all our youth players in the hope that we may get a return in 2-5 years. We would literally have hundreds of players on our books. Players are offered extensions on an individual case.

I imagine at the very least we’ve been trying to get CJ to commit for the last 6 months.

The impression is that there was always a good chance CJ would leave, which he has. That’s his decision and to try and suggest the club wasn’t proactive in keeping him isn’t reasonable.

[ClaretCliff]

Imo Dara O'Shea would be a better bet than THB
He's useful at scoring from set piece situations.Also he can compliment Max Esteve.

Dara: “Hi Max, you’re looking very handsome today”

[Mattster]

And it’s never been ‘standard’ practice to offer extensions to all young players that may develop or we get a fee for in the future. Where have you got this from?

So we’re going to keep a youth player for a number of years because we *might* get £10-50k for them in a number of years time? That’s nonsense, and you only need to look at who we released this summer to see we don’t do that.

If that was the case we would be keeping hold of the vast majority of all our youth players in the hope that we may get a return in 2-5 years. We would literally have hundreds of players on our books. Players are offered extensions on an individual case.

Where are you getting the "literally" "hundreds" from?

Genuinely amazed at the incredulous response to the standard practice of football clubs signing young players to extensions in order to potentially get a fee rather than lose them for nothing. Especially in the age of PSR.

In the past 8 months, we signed Costelloe and Waller to extensions. Anyone think they're coming into the first team squad next season? Costelloe is 2 years older than Koleosho and Waller is 1 year younger than Trafford (1 year older than Trafford was when we signed him), for context. Also this summer we activated extensions on Bevan, Veevers, Casper and Ashton. Bevan, Veevers and Casper are all also older than Koleosho.

[brunlea99]

"Genuinely amazed at the incredulous response to the standard practice of football clubs signing young players to extensions in order to potentially get a fee rather than lose them for nothing."

What happens then if the young player will not sign a contract with an extension clause ? Do we just release them despite their potential to progress to a high level ?

[Mattster]

"Genuinely amazed at the incredulous response to the standard practice of football clubs signing young players to extensions in order to potentially get a fee rather than lose them for nothing."

What happens then if the young player will not sign a contract with an extension clause ? Do we just release them despite their potential to progress to a high level ?

By extensions I just mean a new contract.

[BigGaz]

Wouldn’t want O Shea anywhere near this team. Couldn’t wait to leave and looked poor to me when I saw him last season.

With you on that Boss Hogg. I don't get the love in for him. He was an absolutely calamity in the first half of the season. Didn't have a clue. He'd improved towards the end but not enough for me to think "oh, goodness we simply must have him back for the 15m or so that Ipswich will want for him".

Either go for someone with experience that has actually come out on the right side of a relegation battle or carry on trying to unearth gems, not a half way house of players that are debatably not even better than what we already have

[Hedontplayforyou]

Any murmurs ?

[warksclaret]

I think O Shea is a good CH, and in a very poor performing defence was still Ipswich's player of the season. However I agree with a lot of posters on here in that he could not leave quick enough when Ipswich showed interest and I think it would create significant ill feeling towards him if we re-signed him. Of course if we got relegated next season-what next for him ??

[Steddyman]

I think O Shea is a good CH, and in a very poor performing defence was still Ipswich's player of the season. However I agree with a lot of posters on here in that he could not leave quick enough when Ipswich showed interest and I think it would create significant ill feeling towards him if we re-signed him. Of course if we got relegated next season-what next for him ??

Agreed. Much prefer O'Shea to THB. He has the physicality of a Premier League player and Ipswich fans love him, despite their season.

[NewClaret]

I think O Shea is a good CH, and in a very poor performing defence was still Ipswich's player of the season. However I agree with a lot of posters on here in that he could not leave quick enough when Ipswich showed interest and I think it would create significant ill feeling towards him if we re-signed him. Of course if we got relegated next season-what next for him ??

I don’t think that will be an issue as we won’t sign him. Someone will though. Frank was allegedly interested at Brentford, although wouldn’t pay a pretty small fee in premier league terms so possibly not that interested, but maybe Spurs will take a look now?

I’m not sure THB will get a Prem move.

[Hedontplayforyou]

We more than likely won’t sign either of them. Both lazy links with us losing a centre half as well, the obvious thing to do is link us with former players who have just been relegated

[NewClaret]

We more than likely won’t sign either of them. Both lazy links with us losing a centre half as well, the obvious thing to do is link us with former players who have just been relegated

Agree. Expect we’ve moved on from both.

Of all the links so far, the only one I expect might be true is the young lad from Salford. All the others just seem very lazy links about four other clubs named in the same article.

[boatshed bill]

I think O Shea is a good CH, and in a very poor performing defence was still Ipswich's player of the season. However I agree with a lot of posters on here in that he could not leave quick enough when Ipswich showed interest and I think it would create significant ill feeling towards him if we re-signed him. Of course if we got relegated next season-what next for him ??

Probably a good CH at 2nd tier and not a very good one at PL.

[Jakubs Tash]

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[bumba]

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Isn't this from two years ago?

[Selby Claret]

Give us a Q...

[bumba]

That was his best season for fitness and matches, he still only started 17 games, coming off the bench in 15 more. Managing an average of 56 minutes per appearance.

Last season he started 6, coming off the bench in 3 more.

22/23 started 15 with further 6 sub appearances.

21/22 started 4 and a further 4 sub appearances.

20/21 started 6 and a further 1 sub appearance

He's missed around 2 seasons worth of matches in the last 5 through injury. 3 of the last 5 hasn't made more than 10 league appearances.And being on the bench/matchday squads isn't a great indicator as part of the reason he'll be on the bench will be he wasn't fit to start/was building his match fitness/managing his fitness.

If it's £25m for 20 league appearance from Gomez or £20m for 38 starts from THB or O'Shea I'm taking the latter everytime.

How many games did Ekdal start for us in the 18 months before his loan away where he started the majority of the games?
Gomez not starting regularly at Liverpool with the talent they have isn't a shock is it.
I wouldn't have O'Shea back on a free after last summer.

[Newcastleclaret93]

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Just the read the article it sounds promising.

Says we haven’t bid yet but are we are expected to soon. The player wants to leave the club and is in his last year of contract.


Would be a good signing. Happy with that

[Jakubs Tash]

Isn't this from two years ago?

A player we were linked with two years ago but this link is this morning.

[jedi_master]

FWIW, and posting purely because I seem to be in an extreme minority so wanted to offer the alternative, I’d be delighted to bring Harwood-Bellis back. I think he offers a lot of what we are going to miss with CJ leaving from a distribution perspective. He’s only 23 and had a poor season, but at least he’s now had experience in this league. I loved him last time around and reckon he could flourish under such a defensively astute manager as Parker is.

[ClaretTony]

Window is open again from this morning, right through to 7 p.m. on 1st September

[Guller Bull]

Keane linkage

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/leeds ... ael-keane/

[Guller Bull]

Hartman

https://insidefutbol.com/2025/06/16/bur ... on/685778/

[ollieclarets8]

Any murmurs ?

Only all the heart murmurs through mad panic.

[warksclaret]

FWIW, and posting purely because I seem to be in an extreme minority so wanted to offer the alternative, I’d be delighted to bring Harwood-Bellis back. I think he offers a lot of what we are going to miss with CJ leaving from a distribution perspective. He’s only 23 and had a poor season, but at least he’s now had experience in this league. I loved him last time around and reckon he could flourish under such a defensively astute manager as Parker is.

Well said-said somethiing on the same lines yesterday, plus he will have played with Trafford behind him

[CyrilEbokiPoh]

FWIW, and posting purely because I seem to be in an extreme minority so wanted to offer the alternative, I’d be delighted to bring Harwood-Bellis back. I think he offers a lot of what we are going to miss with CJ leaving from a distribution perspective. He’s only 23 and had a poor season, but at least he’s now had experience in this league. I loved him last time around and reckon he could flourish under such a defensively astute manager as Parker is.

100% agree with you. Woul dhave him back in a breath. Reminds of me of a young Keane.

[CyrilEbokiPoh]

Would be extremely happy with Keane. Exactly what we need and would be excellent alongside Esteve.

Could easily get three good years out of him. As played a lot of premier league football (and for England). Knows the club well. And would be perfect head in this young side. Plus he gets the odd goal. Something we need from set pieces!

[jedi_master]

Hypothetically, a back three of Esteve, Keane and Harwood-Bellis would be excellent with a little bit of everything, in my opinion.

[CyrilEbokiPoh]

Hypothetically, a back three of Esteve, Keane and Harwood-Bellis would be excellent with a little bit of everything, in my opinion.

Agreed. Pires to the left of them (or even Humphreys in a backs to the wall scenario) and Trippier to the right (if only)

Trafford
Tripper THB Keane Esteve Pires
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Brownhill AN Other
Flemming
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Laughing!

[Mattster]

How many games did Ekdal start for us in the 18 months before his loan away where he started the majority of the games?
Gomez not starting regularly at Liverpool with the talent they have isn't a shock is it.
I wouldn't have O'Shea back on a free after last summer.

Is Ekdal a great example for you here? He got injured in the PL and missed the rest of the season. Then, when building his fitness back in the summer, he got another injury and missed half a season. He's then managed half a season without injury in a lower intensity league (he played 14 matches for Groningen in 105 days, in that time Burnley played 19 games in 90 days). So what you have there is a player with a history of injury problems not managing to be available for more than half a season at a time due to injury and only then in a lower intensity league.

Just last season Gomez was out with injury in January. Came back in February and got injured straight away again and had to have surgery. Yes he managed a full season in 23/24 but that was without playing a long runs of consecutive starts which obviously helped manage his fitness. We can't afford to be spending £25m and the massive wages he'd demand to only use him for half the matches to manage his fitness or run risk losing him for the full season if we tried to play him every week.

[bumba]

Is Ekdal a great example for you here? He got injured in the PL and missed the rest of the season. Then, when building his fitness back in the summer, he got another injury and missed half a season. He's then managed half a season without injury in a lower intensity league (he played 14 matches for Groningen in 105 days, in that time Burnley played 19 games in 90 days). So what you have there is a player with a history of injury problems not managing to be available for more than half a season at a time due to injury and only then in a lower intensity league.

Just last season Gomez was out with injury in January. Came back in February and got injured straight away again and had to have surgery. Yes he managed a full season in 23/24 but that was without playing a long runs of consecutive starts which obviously helped manage his fitness. We can't afford to be spending £25m and the massive wages he'd demand to only use him for half the matches to manage his fitness or run risk losing him for the full season if we tried to play him every week.

It was just an example, Beyer is another he's missed a large chunk through injury but should a championship club turn their nose up at a season loan for him?
Players have injuries then come back and play a full season why can't Gomez?

[Mattster]

It was just an example, Beyer is another he's missed a large chunk through injury but should a championship club turn their nose up at a season loan for him?
Players have injuries then come back and play a full season why can't Gomez?

Big difference between a loan and a £25m transfer and £75k+ a week.

Players can come back from injury and play a full season. However, at age 28, with his injury/surgery record and having never managed more than 22 league starts in a season throughout his entire career the odds of that are slim to none.

[bumba]

Big difference between a loan and a £25m transfer and £75k+ a week.

Players can come back from injury and play a full season. However, at age 28, with his injury/surgery record and having never managed more than 22 league starts in a season throughout his entire career the odds of that are slim to none.

Or we get an England international with a point to prove who has plenty more years left in him as he isn't burnt out.
We won't buy or be linked with a better centre back this summer

[mkmel]

If Esteve stays then THB would be a very natural replacement for EGan Riley.

Similar passing ranges.

Would just slot in in my opinion. Whoever it is will require protection from midfield for sure.

Can't remember now is THB a right sided centre back like CJ Egan Riley?

[Mattster]

Or we get an England international with a point to prove who has plenty more years left in him as he isn't burnt out.
We won't buy or be linked with a better centre back this summer

Until he inevitably gets injured.

[Mattster]

Can't remember now is THB a right sided centre back like CJ Egan Riley?

Yes, Beyer played as the left sided CB in that season.

[agreenwood]

The Dutch left back we’ve been linked with hasn’t been able to nail a place down since he returned from a 10-month knee ligament injury.

Wouldn’t appear to be an obvious Pires upgrade.

[jlup1980]

I wouldn't touch Gomez. He's another "top class" footballer because of who he plays for, not because of his ability. He looks good playing next to VVD, but that's hardly a surprise. He looks very different when playing alongside anyone else. I think he's a very limited footballer, with a poor injury record. It's a hard pass from me. I've said before, I'd rather have Keane back on a free.

[ecc]

This is NOT a rumour.

I know there are some posters who wouldn't like to see us sign another player from Belgium which I understand.

However, it remains a league which serves as a platform for young foreigners coming from "smaller" countries or rather less rated countries.

There is a young Croatian centre-forward playing for Union Saint-Gilloise by the name of Franjo Ivanović. In his first season in Belgium he scored 16 goals in 34 matches (standard league plus play-offs).

Union Saint-Gilloise paid Rijeka, his club in Croatia, €4m last summer.

He's now part of the Croatia national team squad - which inevitably adds value - and is being linked with a number of clubs notably Rennes. Fee being quoted is €15m.

He's fast and strong from what I've seen.

Of course, it's a huge leap to the PL but I just feel he's the sort of target which might be feasible (FWIW).

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/franjo- ... ler/548028

[Woodleyclaret]

Micheal Keane would be a much better bet He is a vastly experienced defender with an eye for a goal and on a free( with the usual signing bonus) is a yes from me.