Summer transfer window

[BurnleyFC]

If it is, then it is top trolling from the admins. Rolling brown hills.

It’s because the new kit has a silhouette of Pendle Hill in the background.

Nothing to do with Brownhill signing a new deal, unfortunately.

[AfloatinClaret]

Maybe but the Trafford family farm is just outside Cockermouth

More sheep around Cockermouth than Carlisle

[AfloatinClaret]

Agreed-says a lot about the lad if there is no substance in the story

Look back through this thread and others on here; to see that there's no shortage of people ready to make unsubstantiated claims; they disappear into history unless one of their best/blind guesses comes true, in which case they'll tag it back to the front as further evidence of how 'in the know' they are.

[agreenwood]

Maybe but the Trafford family farm is just outside Cockermouth

Wait….as a kid I used stay on a caravan site with my grandparents called “Traffords”. It was near Bassenthwaite lake and owned by a farming family.

Must be the same place? Never put the two together.

[Clive 1960]

You’d think Trafford has expressed an interest in leaving otherwise I don’t think we’d entertain selling him now we’re in the prem. Shame.

Wanted to leave before last season but Newcastle couldn't give what we wanted and like he said he just got on with the job in hand and not sulk so fair play to him..

[Hedontplayforyou]

Trying to get top dollar for someone touted as englands next number 1 for potentially 10-15 years isn’t an alien suggestion.

Chelsea have form for a last minute swoop let’s hope mr boehly sees dollar signs

[Steddyman]

It’s because the new kit has a silhouette of Pendle Hill in the background.

Nothing to do with Brownhill signing a new deal, unfortunately.

You just had to spoil it for me didn't you

[Darnhill Claret]

Clive,my memory is that James said that he did sulk, but the manager handled the situation well, and James decided to get on with it.
Let's hope Scott can handle what will probably be a bigger sulk this time around. He can spit his dummy out quite a bit.

Wherever you play your football next season James, you owe it to yourself to be at the top of your game. Never let anyone question your professionalism.

[Pearcey]

Wanted to leave before last season but Newcastle couldn't give what we wanted and like he said he just got on with the job in hand and not sulk so fair play to him..

I wasn’t having a dig at him. Just a shame he wants to leave. Hope we get a good deal.

[Clive 1960]

Clive,my memory is that James said that he did sulk, but the manager handled the situation well, and James decided to get on with it.
Let's hope Scott can handle what will probably be a bigger sulk this time around. He can spit his dummy out quite a bit.

Wherever you play your football next season James, you owe it to yourself to be at the top of your game. Never let anyone question your professionalism.

I thought he said he could have sulked but told the manager he was ready for the first game of the season if selected, just hope we get a decent fee ..

[gandhisflipflop]

The more I think about this the more I’d rather take 30m now rather than 35-40m in 6 weeks time. Let’s get the money banked and move on to a replacement asap

[Conroy92]

If Newcastle are only paying 30 then there needs to be a player in return. Unless its 30 rising with add ons and a sell on fee for us.

30m is just far too cheap considering the percentage sell on and money needed for a replacement.

That being said his contact runs until June 2027 so this window or January are realistically our best chances at getting the best fee.

[boatshed bill]

If Newcastle are only paying 30 then there needs to be a player in return. Unless its 30 rising with add ons and a sell on fee for us.

30m is just far too cheap considering the percentage sell on and money needed for a replacement.

That being said his contact runs until June 2027 so this window or January are realistically our best chances at getting the best fee.

I can't see Newcastle paying more than £30m, and our previous deal with Man City isn't their problem.

[ClaretOfMancunia]

DCL leaving Everton on a free. Don't think we could afford his wages like.

What are we going to do up top do we think? Can't see we're going to rely on Foster...

[bumba]

If Brownhill still hasn't signed a new deal then we need to just tell him to move on, he should have known weeks ago what his decision is and if he's still waiting he's waiting for something better to come along so we should say go.

[warksclaret]

If Brownhill still hasn't signed a new deal then we need to just tell him to move on, he should have known weeks ago what his decision is and if he's still waiting he's waiting for something better to come along so we should say go.

Surprised he has dragged it on so long. Suspect his contract ends today, or maybe end of next month. Believe he is not on his first training day today with rest of squad and newcomers which maybe is indicative of his plans

[Tricky Trevor]

If Brownhill still hasn't signed a new deal then we need to just tell him to move on, he should have known weeks ago what his decision is and if he's still waiting he's waiting for something better to come along so we should say go.

He’s still contracted until midnight. Bad news tomorrow.

[Darnhill Claret]

Josh B probably has an offer on the table from us, and he'll be waiting, with his agent, to see what other offers come in.
Guessing that Burnley will be waiting for Josh to give a response, just like any other offers we may have made, to any other out of contract players.

[Goliath]

Surprised he has dragged it on so long. Suspect his contract ends today, or maybe end of next month. Believe he is not on his first training day today with rest of squad and newcomers which maybe is indicative of his plans

I'd be surprised if he's staying if he's not at training. I thought k he'd want to be in early. Huge blow for me if he goes, I don't think he's replaceable. It takes years to build up to the role he has as a leader along with all the other attributes he brings.

It feels a bit Sheff Utd of 2 seasons ago when they lost their best players before the season. We need a big statement signing to motivate the squad as much as anything, I'm sure they feel a bit deflated with what's going on.

[ollieclarets8]

I don't think he's replaceable.

Let's hope he is as we need a Premier League standard replacement.

[Commy]

Loum Tchaouna. Can't announce until tomorrow earliest due to Lazio needing the money to be on later accounts.

https://sportwitness.co.uk/players-burn ... on-clause/

[burnley007]

Let's hope he is as we need a Premier League standard replacement.

Soucek anyone?

[warksclaret]

I'd be surprised if he's staying if he's not at training. I thought k he'd want to be in early. Huge blow for me if he goes, I don't think he's replaceable. It takes years to build up to the role he has as a leader along with all the other attributes he brings.

It feels a bit Sheff Utd of 2 seasons ago when they lost their best players before the season. We need a big statement signing to motivate the squad as much as anything, I'm sure they feel a bit deflated with what's going on.

I agree-if he goes we need a stellar signing, who has his attributes. Maybe someone like Ross Barkeley at Villa. Before people start slamming me that he is going to be expensive, I am led to believe that Brownhill's proposed new package is very attractive. I suspect we could get Barkeley for well under £5m, and he has little chance of gaining a regular place at Villa. They do have some truly outstanding midfielders and even McGinn cant get a regular start. A loan with an option to buy if we stay up could be the dream situation for us. I know Villa are doing everything possible to contain their PSR exposure. With Barkeley having been on Luton's payroll I doubt he was on a mega wage, which could mean Villa did not have to break the bank to get him. Only a thought

[jedi_master]

If Brownhill had agreed a deal, we'd have announced it. The only strange thing to it is that when we knew CJ had rejected our offer, we announced that.

I am perplexed why we have done neither with this.

[matttheclaret]

If Brownhill had agreed a deal, we'd have announced it. The only strange thing to it is that when we knew CJ had rejected our offer, we announced that.

I am perplexed why we have done neither with this.

Can only assume the reason is that, as yet, he hasn't signed it nor informed the club that he definitely isn't

[ollieclarets8]

Loum Tchaouna. Can't announce until tomorrow earliest due to Lazio needing the money to be on later accounts.

I've noticed in his reels how quickly and accurately he can pull off a quick pass. A lot of his clips also show him deeper than a forward - so could even be a Brownhill replacement.

[Murger]

If he hasn’t signed it by now, tell him to eff off so we can move onto a replacement target.

[Jakubclaret]

I've said for ages offers should be timed retracted instead of buggering about not knowing if people are staying or going. I don't blame him from his point of viewing holding out to see if he can get a better offer elsewhere.

[martin_p]

If Brownhill had agreed a deal, we'd have announced it. The only strange thing to it is that when we knew CJ had rejected our offer, we announced that.

I am perplexed why we have done neither with this.

I guess he won’t have rejected our offer until he takes up a different offer. If he hasn’t definitely said he’s off like CJER did then there’s nothing to say.

[northeastclaret]

I've said for ages offers should be timed retracted instead of buggering about not knowing if people are staying or going. I don't blame him from his point of viewing holding out to see if he can get a better offer elsewhere.

I do blame him for not letting the club know sooner, particularly as club captain. Very poor.but I am sure the club are aware by now though.

[Jakubclaret]

I do blame him for not letting the club know sooner, particularly as club captain. Very poor.but I am sure the club are aware by now though.

That's a situation we've allowed though & he's taking full advantage & doing the best for himself. If he is waiting for west ham or somebody else he might not even know himself to let the club know.

[bumba]

I've said for ages offers should be timed retracted instead of buggering about not knowing if people are staying or going. I don't blame him from his point of viewing holding out to see if he can get a better offer elsewhere.

He'd have had the offers by now so he should know his decision, if he isn't at training and hasn't signed a deal I'd retract the offer now and leave him be.
No way on earth Burnley FC should be left in limbo by Josh Brownhill and if the rumours of the deal offered by us to him are true then I'll be delighted if he doesn't sign it!

[BobSykes]

If there is anything to cling on to re Brownhill it's that the lack of announcement unlike as with CJ leaving means he's presumably not formally declined our offer (yet) and with his contract expiring at midnight tonight presumably that means there could be haggling still over a new Clarets deal, going down to the wire. Unlikely but plausible.

Otherwise, if he was going after today then no reason for BFC and JB himself not to have confirmed that.

Maybe I'm desperately clutching at straws..

[Jakubclaret]

He'd have had the offers by now so he should know his decision, if he isn't at training and hasn't signed a deal I'd retract the offer now and leave him be.
No way on earth Burnley FC should be left in limbo by Josh Brownhill and if the rumours of the deal offered by us to him are true then I'll be delighted if he doesn't sign it!

I think he's playing things well with a fallback option should west ham not happen & probably well advised.

[jedi_master]

Brownhill not pictured going into training in the club videos (that's the case for a few others too, but just making the point).

[Goliath]

Brownhill not pictured going into training in the club videos (that's the case for a few others too, but just making the point).

You'd think the only players not back today would be those who've had international duty. Brownhill isn't one of them.

[RVclaret]

Brownhill would be a massive miss off the pitch, clearly a very well liked person and captain. On the pitch, however, I feel he’s definitely replaceable at this level, to be honest I’d be a bit worried seeing Cullen and Brownhill starting centrally for us again in the PL. Not that we will spend anywhere near that amount, but Sunderland just bought a PL version of Brownhill in Diarra, I think they’ve overpaid a touch, and will lose him for 6-7 games at AFCON, but still, he’s that next level above the likes of JB. I really think having a competitive midfield can allow you to stay in games the most. Lokonga and Barkley made that Luton side look better than they were, it was only when either 1 was injured their results tailed off.

[martin_p]

You'd think the only players not back today would be those who've had international duty. Brownhill isn't one of them.

Or players were on the last day of their contract and hadn’t signed a new one yet. No surprise that he isn’t there if he still hasn’t signed to be honest.

[warksclaret]

In fairness to JB he does deserve some slack, but maybe the club contact him tomorrow as he is then out of contract. Firstly they get an update from him , but to advise him we will in 48 hours time be searching for a replacement, and as a result cannot honour our proposed contract beyond this point.

[brexit]

I've noticed in his reels how quickly and accurately he can pull off a quick pass. A lot of his clips also show him deeper than a forward - so could even be a Brownhill replacement.

Isn't Hannibal the Brownhill replacement, or even Flemming playing in a deeper role.

[Goliath]

Or players were on the last day of their contract and hadn’t signed a new one yet. No surprise that he isn’t there if he still hasn’t signed to be honest.

Well yes, that was my implication but it hints towards him not signing. You'd think he'd want it done before they came back if he was staying. Unless he fancied an extended holiday this year.

[fatboy47]

There'll be a lot of wailing, howling and gnashing of teeth if Brownhill fails to sign but I'd suspect that Parker (ex-international midfielder) won't have been arsed to any great extent. Certainly Brownhill (relegated x2 with us) didn't pull any trees up last time and Parker will surely want better to avoid a 3rd relegation on his and Brownhill's cvs.

I'd think Brownhill's probably had a sensible offer to chew on with it being clear the club won't be pushing the boat out any further. Certainly can't see him being of any great interest to any Prem outfit beyond the other promoted clubs.

[randomclaret2]

There'll be a lot of wailing, howling and gnashing of teeth if Brownhill fails to sign but I'd suspect that Parker (ex-international midfielder) won't have been arsed to any great extent. Certainly Brownhill (relegated x2 with us) didn't pull any trees up last time and Parker will surely want better to avoid a 3rd relegation on his and Brownhill's cvs.

I'd think Brownhill's probably had a sensible offer to chew on with it being clear the club won't be pushing the boat out any further. Certainly can't see him being of any great interest to any Prem outfit beyond the other promoted clubs.

Brownhill is one of our " Very Good Championship/ Not quite Premier League " group.

[burnley007]

Brownhill is one of our " Very Good Championship/ Not quite Premier League " group.

I think that is debatable.
Playing in the right team, he is clearly good enough.

But we shall see.

He's a good bloke, so I really wanted him to stay.

[CrosspoolClarets]

If Josh goes somewhere more glamorous it is understandable at his age. But he will have to weigh up his odds of playing, including here, where I suspect he would have had less game time than last season but still plenty.

The reality is though that all the departing players so far have questions about how they would do in the EPL, including Trafford who can be prone to panic when closed down aggressively which we know they do a lot better at that level. Put it this way, Trafford’s calmness with feet is nearer to Pope than Muric so I’d put him a long way below Pickford on that one measure (the rumour was that distribution was why Newcastle wanted him). Doesn’t seem to me to be an attribute keepers improve much, they either have it or don’t.

So I’m fairly nonplussed either way with all of the three English lads who may leave us, even though I’d have kept all of them.

[Rileybobs]

Obviously it is bad news if we lose any of our better players, and Josh Browhill is one of our better players. No doubt it is possible upgrade on him, but ideally we would upgrade on the lesser players and keep our club captain and last season's top scorer.

[Jakubs Tash]

I think that is debatable.
Playing in the right team, he is clearly good enough.

But we shall see.

He's a good bloke, so I really wanted him to stay.

On what basis is he clearly good enough if playing in the right team?

He’s already had two shots at Premier League football and both times been found wanting. No doubting his fitness and desire but sadly lacking the required technical ability to play central midfield at that level.

If he signs; great. He’ll be a valuable squad player and ‘great character to have around’.

If he doesn’t sign; so be it. There are much better footballers out there than Josh Brownhill and midfield is an area that needs some serious upgrades anyway so it forces our hand in that area a bit more.

[TsarBomba]

https://x.com/nicoschira/status/1939696 ... 87070?s=46

In for an AC Milan midfielder on loan according to Nicolo Schira.

[bumba]

https://x.com/nicoschira/status/1939696 ... 87070?s=46

In for an AC Milan midfielder on loan according to Nicolo Schira.

Loftus-Cheek would be a very good loan signing but doubt it'd be him

[bumba]

I think he's playing things well with a fallback option should west ham not happen & probably well advised.

We shouldn't allow that at this stage