Wimbledon

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:31 pm

Oliver Tarvet, 21 year old Brit got through qualifying and has just won his first round. He has gone up over 300 places in the rankings. He will play Carlos in the next round, if he wins his first round lol. He can only spend £10k of his winnings as he is the American college system so is still amateur. He looks to be one that could have a good career.

Also through in the womens draw is Sonay Kartel. She beat the number 20 seed.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:48 pm

Great to see the courts looking so green and lush on day 1 of the tournament.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:50 pm

kentonclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:48 pm
Great to see the courts looking so green and lush on day 1 of the tournament.

What colour are they usually?

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:03 pm

We have some good young players at the minute and 2 16 year olds and one 17 year old have been given wild cards in the womens draw. Mika Stojsavljevic (16) won the US Open juniors last year and was runner up in the Wimbledon doubles juniors.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:07 pm

I've enjoyed watching Fognini over the years, bit of a soft spot for him, didn't realise he was the grand age of 38 though.

Come on Fab.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:16 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:50 pm
What colour are they usually?

Not yellow due to extreme heat is what he meant I think.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:39 pm

Medvedev is out. Shame as I like watching him.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 3:39 pm

Arthur Fery 22, knocked out the 20th seed. Another that has gone through the American college system. Norrie through as well.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 3:59 pm

Dazzler wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:07 pm
I've enjoyed watching Fognini over the years, bit of a soft spot for him, didn't realise he was the grand age of 38 though.

Come on Fab.

Playing well against Carlos.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:24 pm

ecc wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:16 pm
Not yellow due to extreme heat is what he meant I think.

I was also referring to the state of the courts during the end of the second week when the baseline areas get worn and dust gets thrown up when the ball hits the tram lines.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:43 pm

Ooh Katie Boulter, Ooh Katie Boulter, Ooh Katie Boulter

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:33 pm

Ooh Katie Boulter, Ooh Katie Boulter, Ooh Katie Boulter

ollieclarets8 · Post by **ollieclarets8** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:34 pm

Boulter through vs 9th seed.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:11 pm

Very, very hot today. The Fritz - Perricard game was great with some huge serves. Shame they didn't get to finish it

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:12 pm

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:17 pm

Hopefully this will work

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Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Tue Jul 01, 2025 9:49 pm

Some very close and exciting matches so far, well worth watching.
I still feel that 2 sets are too few and 5 sets are too many - why not a minimum of 3 sets and a maximum of 4 sets. If it’s 2 sets all then (instead of a fifth set) play first to 20 points tiebreak.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:00 pm

The young British lad Pinnington Jones played well to get through against a very good player. Another one who has gone through the American college system. He looks like he is going to have a very good career.

Seeds are dropping like flies. No 3 in the mens out and Coco Gauff, 2nd seed, went out tonight.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:33 pm

Mala591 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 01, 2025 9:49 pm
Some very close and exciting matches so far, well worth watching.
I still feel that 2 sets are too few and 5 sets are too many - why not a minimum of 3 sets and a maximum of 4 sets. If it’s 2 sets all then (instead of a fifth set) play first to 20 points tiebreak.

To win the fifth set in normal tennis, you need 24 points. Plus a few points in the games you lose, of course - say 32 points. You're only saving about a third of the set, and you're likely to lose a lot of the excitement. Remember table tennis reduced their games from 21 points to 11 because they thought the long games were a bit boring.

This is one of the big problems I have with the tennis administrators. If a game is a humdrum 6-2 6-2, they're fine with that because it's over quickly. If it's a thrilling 7-5 5-7, they're fed up because it's gone on so long and they introduce a 10-point tie break instead of the third set. Basically, they are trying to encourage boring tennis.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Wed Jul 02, 2025 8:24 am

Mala591 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 01, 2025 9:49 pm
Some very close and exciting matches so far, well worth watching.
I still feel that 2 sets are too few and 5 sets are too many - why not a minimum of 3 sets and a maximum of 4 sets. If it’s 2 sets all then (instead of a fifth set) play first to 20 points tiebreak.

"Victory belongs to the most persevering"... French open motto.
It all comes into play as the tournament progresses......leave it be!

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Wed Jul 02, 2025 12:03 pm

dsr wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:33 pm
To win the fifth set in normal tennis, you need 24 points. Plus a few points in the games you lose, of course - say 32 points. You're only saving about a third of the set, and you're likely to lose a lot of the excitement. Remember table tennis reduced their games from 21 points to 11 because they thought the long games were a bit boring.

This is one of the big problems I have with the tennis administrators. If a game is a humdrum 6-2 6-2, they're fine with that because it's over quickly. If it's a thrilling 7-5 5-7, they're fed up because it's gone on so long and they introduce a 10-point tie break instead of the third set. Basically, they are trying to encourage boring tennis.

Valid points dsr, you obviously understand tennis very well (do you still play?). I’m just trying to suggest a new system where the Gentlemen and Ladies play an equal non-sexist game-set-match system. Do the Ladies not have enough stamina or concentration to play 4 sets plus a play-off?

What I am proposing is a much fairer and potentially equally exciting system which imo should be trialled in one of the less major international competitions. If it is never tried how will we ever know?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Wed Jul 02, 2025 2:20 pm

Very comfortable win for Sonay Kartal.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Wed Jul 02, 2025 2:37 pm

Norrie v Tiafoe, one set apiece, could be a humdinger of a 5 setter this

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Wed Jul 02, 2025 3:14 pm

Norrie 2 sets to 1 up and Tiafoe extracting the urine between sets. Took ages to decide on his change of clothes and then went off for a break. Making Norrie sit there and wait.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:43 pm

Cilic a set up against Draper. 6-4
Come on, Jack!

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:07 pm

Jack could do with a football crowd geeing him up rather than a grandma crowd.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:35 pm

Good lad Jack!
Now hold!

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:35 pm

Well done, Umpire, Cilic takes the **** with his bounce ups.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:49 pm

A set back!

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:55 pm

Is that a set back for Draper, or
a setback for Cilic?

Anonymous Claret · Post by **Anonymous Claret** » Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:14 pm

Draper.
He's 2 sets to 1 down.
Close 4th set so far.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:15 pm

Have another beer, Doug.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:34 pm

Oh well.

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Thu Jul 03, 2025 8:36 pm

Draper well beaten by Cilic. I like how he spoke about the defeat. Bodes well for his continuing development.

Goliath · Post by **Goliath** » Thu Jul 03, 2025 10:25 pm

Draper seems to be really lacking variety in his game. I don't find him enjoyable to watch at the moment.
Murray was so successful because he'd adapt and change his game depending on the opponent, his in game iq was top drawer.

Draper has a lot to learn in that regard.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:04 pm

Everyone got the 'Emma' bug then?

Just kicked off.

ollieclarets8 · Post by **ollieclarets8** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:08 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:04 pm
Everyone got the 'Emma' bug then?
Just kicked off.

Would be very surprised if she wins this one. Sonay Kartal through to Round 4.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:14 pm

Yep.
Tough ask. Not impossible though.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:26 pm

First break to Emma.
3-2
Now hold, girl!!

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:26 pm

Sabalanka is obviously a wonderful player but, I must say, her demeanour doesn’t ooze confidence. Emma has now broken her serve but a long way to go.

ollieclarets8 · Post by **ollieclarets8** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:27 pm

kentonclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:26 pm
Sabalanka is obviously a wonderful player but, I must say, her demeanour doesn’t ooze confidence.

I don't watch much tennis but she looks permanently pi$$ed off.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:38 pm

Poor service game, that.

ollieclarets8 · Post by **ollieclarets8** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:45 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:38 pm
Poor service game, that.

That was quick. Turned around and she was 4-2 up. Now just turned again and she's 5-4 down.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:56 pm

Wow.
That 10th game latest nearly 15 minutes.
I'm knackered watching it.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:01 pm

Then she breaks!
Serving for the set!

TPClaret · Post by **TPClaret** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:12 pm

That screaming spoils the game

ollieclarets8 · Post by **ollieclarets8** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:17 pm

I sense she needed to win that one to go on and win the match.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:18 pm

A set down.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:22 pm

Sabalenka's drop shots have been unreal.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:39 pm

4-1 Raducanu

The only point Sabalenka won in her previous service game was a fluke shot that hit the top of the net.