Cricket field stand

[Bosscat]

So are we going to have an even bigger bottleneck as the Whole North Stand upper and Lower exit by the Club Shop route alobg with the JM upper and Lower ... This is assuning Ormerod Yd is now Away Fans only .

[Row x]

Now confirmed - switch from Sunderland game

Thanks...

[GetIntoEm]

More details here

https://media-cdn.cortextech.io/8f45b1b ... e04463.pdf

Sounds good to me

[GetIntoEm]

So are we going to have an even bigger bottleneck as the Whole North Stand upper and Lower exit by the Club Shop route alobg with the JM upper and Lower ... This is assuning Ormerod Yd is now Away Fans only .

There's no requirement to seperate fans, I imagine you can still walk that way

[Row x]

Who said that?

Answered above... beehole podcast

[Orangebernard]

If all these changes are to enhance the fan experience then why leave it until a few weeks before the first home game to tell the fan base? I’ll tell you why, Mr Pace doesn’t like being told ‘No’ and if the club had genuinely consulted with fan base many months ago on this he wouldn’t have been able to impose it on us. This gives fans and their respective supporters groups very little time to question the club. There is no mention of access into Ormerod Ysrd for home fans or whether the entirety of the north stand and Jimmy Mac will have to squeeze through the bottleneck of those gates behind the Jimmy Mac at full time. But hey ho, we will have 4 new content creator pods to gaze at.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Moving the away fans away from the Bob Lord not a surprise can get quite heated down there once the thermos flasks are opened.

[Clowbridge89]

I read it as the “paper tickets” which they still print out

They are sending out entire new batch of st cards at a cost
It’s seems bonkers if that was only for 3 games

I read it as they will only send out plastic cards if they get terrible feedback following digital-only entry. We have a month without a home game after the 3rd one so it would give them time to get the cards out. Who knows!

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Such great improvements that they have kept it all secret and had no comms with the people affected.

Why couldn’t they just say that this was a possibility and then given people who sit in the CFS a chance to change seats, instead of selling us tickets for seats they knew we wouldn’t be sitting in.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

If all these changes are to enhance the fan experience then why leave it until a few weeks before the first home game to tell the fan base? I’ll tell you why, Mr Pace doesn’t like being told ‘No’ and if the club had genuinely consulted with fan base many months ago on this he wouldn’t have been able to impose it on us. This gives fans and their respective supporters groups very little time to question the club. There is no mention of access into Ormerod Ysrd for home fans or whether the entirety of the north stand and Jimmy Mac will have to squeeze through the bottleneck of those gates behind the Jimmy Mac at full time. But hey ho, we will have 4 new content creator pods to gaze at.

You would obviously presume they’ve ran all this past the police etc and not just decided to do it this afternoon. I’m sure which way to walk to and from a football ground in over 3 weeks time will be made clear,

[Leisure]

I literally can't get my head round this. I know people who have no idea that they won't get the seat they have paid for. I know a small amount of people who do know and aren't happy about it.

How has this gone unchallenged by the FAB.

It doesn't actually say it on the club statement does it but I take it this means the seats are definitely being switched?

Yes they are. Not sure if it'll be just a mirror image swop over??

[ClaretTony]

Such great improvements that they have kept it all secret and had no comms with the people affected.

Why couldn’t they just say that this was a possibility and then given people who sit in the CFS a chance to change seats, instead of selling us tickets for seats they knew we wouldn’t be sitting in.

Because they didn't want any opposition to it, that's what Alan wants and that's what Alan ensures he gets.

[JohnMac]

Corporate speak statements that are supposed to impress?
I think this stuff is written by bullsh*tters on behalf of other bullsh*tters which causes little groups of bullsh*tters to stand around telling other bullsh*tters how jolly good their bullsh*t is!

[Leisure]

Answered above... beehole podcast

Have listened to it. Where/who did they get that info from?

[fidelcastro]

Such great improvements that they have kept it all secret and had no comms with the people affected.

Why couldn’t they just say that this was a possibility and then given people who sit in the CFS a chance to change seats, instead of selling us tickets for seats they knew we wouldn’t be sitting in.

£££

[ClaretTony]

Corporate speak statements that are supposed to impress?
I think this stuff is written by bullsh*tters on behalf of other bullsh*tters which causes little groups of bullsh*tters to stand around telling other bullsh*tters how jolly good their bullsh*t is!

Absolutely spot on

[randomclaret2]

Moving the away fans away from the Bob Lord not a surprise can get quite heated down there once the thermos flasks are opened.

It'll be much quieter Im sure when they're next to the Longside

[boyyanno]

I think everyone who purchased a ticket in the cricket field stand should ask for some sort of concession from the club, a nice discount perhaps. There's absolutley no chance the club can sell you a specific seat and then change it- especially given it's demonstrably a worse view in some areas.

I'd be interested to know what the legal experts think.

[Row x]

Have listened to it. Where/who did they get that info from?

Haven't a clue

[Leisure]

‘Digital only entry…supporter feedback will determine if physical tickets are reinstated’

Are ST's classed as digital?

[GetIntoEm]

I think everyone who purchased a ticket in the cricket field stand should ask for some sort of concession from the club, a nice discount perhaps. There's absolutley no chance the club can sell you a specific seat and then change it- especially given it's demonstrably a worse view in some areas.

I'd be interested to know what the legal experts think.

You've absolutely no legal right to a specific seat. There's no legal consequences to this at all.

I get that it's upset a few, but sometimes disruption to a few improves things for a wider population. They'll get over their seat moving 30 yards

[fidelcastro]

Has an away fan ever been complimentary about the view from that side of the CFS?

I certainly don't remember any positive comments.

[Leisure]

Haven't a clue

So they could have just made it up or listened to incorrect gossip?

[Bob Lorder]

Wellcome to the Bob Lord corner cricket fielders, but please keep the noise down, some of our comrades have a nap during the game ..

[Row x]

Such great improvements that they have kept it all secret and had no comms with the people affected.

Why couldn’t they just say that this was a possibility and then given people who sit in the CFS a chance to change seats, instead of selling us tickets for seats they knew we wouldn’t be sitting in.

The press release talks about planning permission, perhaps that had something to do with when it could be communicated
I wouldn't be happy if I was one being moved i have to say

[DCWat]

Loves an LED does Alan! It’ll be visible from the International Space Station by the time he’s finished.

[Chester Perry]

So they could have just made it up or listened to incorrect gossip?

They made it quite clear that was what various social media accounts suggested - it was never their claim

[boyyanno]

You've absolutely no legal right to a specific seat. There's no legal consequences to this at all.

I get that it's upset a few, but sometimes disruption to a few improves things for a wider population. They'll get over their seat moving 30 yards

You're telling me that people have no rights to a seat that they purchased- when they viewed the stadium, picked the stand and seat position and then paid for it?

Why can you select a seat/spot then?

[Leisure]

They made it quite clear that was what various social media accounts suggested - it was never their claim

So it didn't come from any official BFC source?

[Clowbridge89]

Are ST's classed as digital?

Not in my mind, no. I’d say they were physical but I could be completely wrong!

[DCWat]

I think everyone who purchased a ticket in the cricket field stand should ask for some sort of concession from the club, a nice discount perhaps. There's absolutley no chance the club can sell you a specific seat and then change it- especially given it's demonstrably a worse view in some areas.

I'd be interested to know what the legal experts think.

Why is it a worse view from one side to the other of the CFS? Genuine question as it’s the one stand I’ve not sat / stood in.

[Chester Perry]

So are we going to have an even bigger bottleneck as the Whole North Stand upper and Lower exit by the Club Shop route alobg with the JM upper and Lower ... This is assuning Ormerod Yd is now Away Fans only .

It seems quite clear that this is designed to increase earlier pre-match arrival and later post match stick in the fanzone

[Chester Perry]

So it didn't come from any official BFC source?

Correct

[Leisure]

Not in my mind, no. I’d say they were physical but I could be completely wrong!

I'm just thinking that there is only one 'ticket' reader at each turnstile, which must cope with ST's digital and paper tickets

[Leisure]

Why is it a worse view from one side to the other of the CFS? Genuine question as it’s the one stand I’ve not sat / stood in.

Because the end block on the left hand side facing the pitch looks straight down the touchline but at the other side the last block is more to the right and looks down the front of the BL.

[jedi_master]

Aside from the obvious (lack of communication to those affected, strange use of money with no discernible benefit, kicking the can down the road for long term stadium redevelopment…) my overriding reaction was incredulity at the barely GCSE level ‘renders’ produced for the concept art!

[Orangebernard]

The press release talks about planning permission, perhaps that had something to do with when it could be communicated
I wouldn't be happy if I was one being moved i have to say

I know you have openly said that you try to give ALK the benefit of the doubt but even you can see that this is one man’s idea and he doesn’t want to be challenged on any of it. The reality of the situation is that with just a few weeks notice thousands of CFS season ticket holders now don’t know where their seats will be and what the view is like. The CFS is not symmetrical about the goal, it’s offset so the view might be worse for some. The rest is just AI images.

[boyyanno]

I dont think the club would do this, so I think this is a wind up by the poster suggesting this will happen. Screenshot highlights (from Google maps) what the issues are for the tunnel etc, and as CT says, the gap between BL and CFS is tight. I certainly wouldn't be happy if had a home seat on the edge of the stand and they moved me to the equivalent mirror seat on the other side, the viewing angle would be massively inferior.

I sit almost right behind the goal, and from the image I would (if mirrored) be almost level with the edge of the penalty area - which would really be unsatisfactory. If the club do this I will be asking for a refund (on 3 STs in there) and give it up all together. Not because of the move, I would understand that if it was timely and with the fans considerations in mind. If it is being done like suggested and I turn up to the first home game to be told my seat has moved - f#ck'em - I'll stop going.

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Reposting this so I make sense.

[Row x]

I know you have openly said that you try to give ALK the benefit of the doubt but even you can see that this is one man’s idea and he doesn’t want to be challenged on any of it. The reality of the situation is that with just a few weeks notice thousands of CFS season ticket holders now don’t know where their seats will be and what the view is like. The CFS is not symmetrical about the goal, it’s offset so the view might be worse for some. The rest is just AI images.

I literally said, in the post you quoted that I wouldn't be happy, and just put an idea forward in answer to a question

[boyyanno]

Why is it a worse view from one side to the other of the CFS? Genuine question as it’s the one stand I’ve not sat / stood in.

I've just bumped a quote that has a picture that shows the issue. Effectively the stand isn't central so if supporters are moved into that corner the view is effected quite a lot.

[Burnley1989]

Aside from the obvious (lack of communication to those affected, strange use of money with no discernible benefit, kicking the can down the road for long term stadium redevelopment…) my overriding reaction was incredulity at the barely GCSE level ‘renders’ produced for the concept art!

exactly what i thought, its like some mosaic GCSE piece made from Burnley program cuttings. Tbf, its probably only about £3-5m of development, what do you expect for that price

[gandhisflipflop]

Moan moan moan.

[RHansburyEsq]

I’m not convinced that thousands would have swapped seats, or that the view will be massively different for the vast majority. But some people clearly will be affected and the announcement references the switch as almost an afterthought to a load of tosh about LED lighting and a new bus route an hour before 95% people get to the ground. People writing this nonsense have never attended a football ground as a fan. Some straightforward communication which answers some of the very obvious questions on this thread could have been so easy to do.

[Funkydrummer]

I've just bumped a quote that has a picture that shows the issue. Effectively the stand isn't central so if supporters are moved into that corner the view is effected quite a lot.

Might they not have moved the pitch over a little to compensate ?

Just asking.

[Dyched]

I’d like to have seen fans reactions if all this was announced before renewals began. “This is what’s happening if we get promoted, this is what it is if we don’t”. They have been getting the same stick.

The club are in a tricky situation in that a lot what they do/don’t depends on what league we’re in

[Milltown1882]

I suspect my North Stand Upper block 1 seats aren’t going to be great for a quick getaway anymore

Feeling the exact same thing!

[boyyanno]

Might they not have moved the pitch over a little to compensate ?

Just asking.

Move it to where? Our subs will be running up and down the Bob Lord.

[Milltown1882]

I know you have openly said that you try to give ALK the benefit of the doubt but even you can see that this is one man’s idea and he doesn’t want to be challenged on any of it. The reality of the situation is that with just a few weeks notice thousands of CFS season ticket holders now don’t know where their seats will be and what the view is like. The CFS is not symmetrical about the goal, it’s offset so the view might be worse for some. The rest is just AI images.

The only comms my friend has had from them on this as a season ticket holder in there is they’ll know where there seats will be by August 4th. So poor again from the club.

[burnleytom]

More details here

https://media-cdn.cortextech.io/8f45b1b ... e04463.pdf

Sounds good to me

Either there’s a mistake in here, which wouldn’t be a surprise given how sloppy they are, or they are deliberately creating chaos.

‘Away supporters will enter via the Northeast corner’. Isn’t this between the Jimmy Mac and the Longside?

[boyyanno]

Seems its a popular thing to shout down everyone as a moaner on here without actually taking 2 minutes to consider wether you'd be happy about moving to a crapper view after paying for a different one.

I don't sit in the cricket field so I'm not affected but I'm not a selfish bas****.