Lyle Foster

[CoolClaret]

Purpose of the thread well and truly gone.

We all know he hasn't scored at the rate required - the thread is about identifying if there's a position / role on the pitch perhaps he's better suited to, because there's no denying that his work rate / strength / speed / link play is good enough for our side in the PL.

[KRBFC]

Purpose of the thread well and truly gone.

We all know he hasn't scored at the rate required - the thread is about identifying if there's a position / role on the pitch perhaps he's better suited to, because there's no denying that his work rate / strength / speed / link play is good enough for our side in the PL.

I’m not even sure his link play is good enough for League One. He’s so scruffy and sloppy. He hasn’t got the work rate or concentration to play in midfield, he was offside like 4 times Yesterday for no reason. He’s a powerful runner, I think he’d be decent at Rugby.

[ksrclaret]

Purpose of the thread well and truly gone.

We all know he hasn't scored at the rate required - the thread is about identifying if there's a position / role on the pitch perhaps he's better suited to, because there's no denying that his work rate / strength / speed / link play is good enough for our side in the PL.

It's a good idea CC. If we persist with the 523 system, I've posted before that I can see Foster being used on the left of the front line. He clearly has some attributes that are very useful at Premier League level, so that role where he can step back into midfield and then hopefully carry the ball on transition might be worth exploring.

My reservation is that I didn't feel he was that effective when SP used him from the left wing on a few occasions last season, although that was different tactical setup.

[Jakubclaret]

Purpose of the thread well and truly gone.

We all know he hasn't scored at the rate required - the thread is about identifying if there's a position / role on the pitch perhaps he's better suited to, because there's no denying that his work rate / strength / speed / link play is good enough for our side in the PL.

Well he is supposed to be a striker even though you could be forgiven for mistaking that. If you did shuffle him into another position you then have the problem accommodating him at the expense of another player who would be naturally preferred. Something has to give.

[CoolClaret]

It's a good idea CC. If we persist with the 523 system, I've posted before that I can see Foster being used on the left of the front line. He clearly has some attributes that are very useful at Premier League level, so that role where he can step back into midfield and then hopefully carry the ball on transition might be worth exploring.

My reservation is that I didn't feel he was that effective when SP used him from the left wing on a few occasions last season, although that was different tactical setup.

Yeah, more of a 'left forward' vs a 'left winger' or 'inverted winger'.

A role that can have him driving in space, in the lines between midfield and defence - a bit like how Amorim has in his system with Cunha & Mbeumo.

[CoolClaret]

Well he is supposed to be a striker even though you could be forgiven for mistaking that. If you did shuffle him into another position you then have the problem accommodating him at the expense of another player who would be naturally preferred. Something has to give.

If you think we have players better suited to carry the ball at pace and contest outballs (often against multiple defenders) then I'm all ears.

[Jakubclaret]

If you think we have a players better suited to carry the ball at pace and contest outballs / 50-50s then I'm all ears.

Personally I would have got shut a long time ago & bought somebody else for that exact purpose you are proposing.

[CoolClaret]

Personally I would have got shut a long time ago & bought somebody else for that exact purpose you are proposing.

Ok, no offers came in, and we have him for another two years.

Would it be wise to let him rot, or perhaps try and get a tune out of him, to benefit the team?

[Jakubclaret]

Ok, no offers came in, and we have him for another two years.

Would it be wise to let him rot, or perhaps try and get a tune out of him, to benefit the team?

It is what it is. You buy duds & then have the problem that you can't shift. Might be a radical idea but try not to buy duds in the first place. This isn't an overnight thing he's had no productive output for ages.

[CoolClaret]

Might be a radical idea but try not to buy duds in the first place.

Genius idea - have you ever thought about running for PM, Jakub?

[aggi]

Having read plenty of comments on both this site & the uptheclarets fb page (not sure if they're related) I would argue that it is personal from some posters !

The trouble is that people start eulogising about him (he was declared the best striker in the championship at the start of the season, he had a great game against spurs, etc) and then others go further the other way to offset that.

He was ok against spurs, some players better, plenty played worse.

[Newcastleclaret93]

If anyone wants to know how hard this league is for strikers, look at how the 70m Gyokeres played yesterday. He looked like an absolute donkey

[Shaggy]

If anyone wants to know how hard this league is for strikers, look at how the 70m Gyokeres played yesterday. He looked like an absolute donkey

He’s vastly overrated. Although tried and tested in the championship and excelled in a weak league with the best team.

Foster hasn’t even proven to be championship level. He offers nothing in football terms. Iv no idea why people are obsessing about getting him in the side and wanting him to play wide left. Anthony is levels beyond Foster.

[RVclaret]

Anyone would have thought Foster was the £70m signing if they’d not known, out of Gyokeres & him this weekend, that’s for sure.

[brexit]

Genius idea - have you ever thought about running for PM, Jakub?

I'm not taking sides on this one, but we do seem to have a bloated squad that are not up to PL standard.
Of the current squad, only Dub and kyle could be classed as PL standard, and yet, they both probably have a couple of years left at this level.
The rest of our squad are good championship players, which is where we should be.
As for Foster he is supposedly a CF, but he has a goals to games ratio of 1 to 8 for me that's no good enough.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I'm not taking sides on this one, but we do seem to have a bloated squad that are not up to PL standard.
Of the current squad, only Dub and kyle could be classed as PL standard, and yet, they both probably have a couple of years left at this level.
The rest of our squad are good championship players, which is where we should be.
As for Foster he is supposedly a CF, but he has a goals to games ratio of 1 to 8 for me that's no good enough.

Of course a lot of our squad are Championship players, we have just come out the Championship.

Weird how 2 year ago it was shocking we binned off the players from the Championship squad, now the annoyance seems to be we haven't binned off most from the Championship squad.

Some from the Championship squad are now the new targets for the boo boys

[ollieclarets8]

Some from the Championship squad are now the new targets for the boo boys

Some football fans (and people in general) enjoy being miserable.
So it's literally impossible for them to be happy or even content as it's not something that floats their boat. They get nothing out of it.

[Shaggy]

Some football fans (and people in general) enjoy being miserable.
So it's literally impossible for them to be happy or even content as it's not something that floats their boat. They get nothing out of it.

Happy clapper alert.

You are incorrect. Some people can actually see and accept reality.

There is a difference between being miserable and pointing out things which are not good. If all you do is happy clap and blow smoke up the proverbial then you never find the problem. An Alcoholic cannot heal until they admit they have a problem.

[Targetman]

Happy clapper alert.

You are incorrect. Some people can actually see and accept reality.

There is a difference between being miserable and pointing out things which are not good. If all you do is happy clap and blow smoke up the proverbial then you never find the problem. An Alcoholic cannot heal until they admit they have a problem.

You haven't mentioned Sean Dyche yet in this thread, or have I missed it??

[Silkyskills1]

In an ideal world you are right.
But this is Burnley FC, punching a way above our weight.
Support the players we have because we really are very unlikely to field much better.

I do support the players we have. Paid for 5 of my family to attend the game at Spurs on Saturday. Is that good enough? However, I will not put up and shut up when I regularly see a player/ players I believe to be out of their depth. That view is based on 30 months of watching Lyle Foster. I'm urging him to score with any opportunity that arises but 30 months of nothingness has taken its toll. We need to score goals to have the remotest chance in this league.

[Jakubclaret]

If you can't hack it don't back it. It's been apparent for some considerable time now that lyle has backed something he can't hack it's not completely his fault he doesn't asked to get picked. It would be nice at some point if lyle could score just 1 goal & at least pretend to be a striker.

[Row x]

I do support the players we have. Paid for 5 of my family to attend the game at Spurs on Saturday. Is that good enough? However, I will not put up and shut up when I regularly see a player/ players I believe to be out of their depth. That view is based on 30 months of watching Lyle Foster. I'm urging him to score with any opportunity that arises but 30 months of nothingness has taken its toll. We need to score goals to have the remotest chance in this league.

Out of interest, being that you were there, how many chances did he miss on Saturday?

[Colburn_Claret]

Lyle Foster has everything, apart from the finish. His history indicates a human being lacking confidence/composure, I do believe sometimes you can try too hard. He keeps getting selected, and without proof he seems to be a player who hits the net 19/20 on the training ground, but puts it wide 19/20 on a match day.
Even the best strikers miss sitters, what makes them great is they never let it bother them, they'll bury the next one. Lyle on the other hand will let one miss affect the next chance and it snowballs.
The solution is difficult, because if the problem is in his head then people react differently to stimuli. He certainly doesn't need the added pressure of getting on his back, but SP has to fix it.

[Silkyskills1]

Out of interest, being that you were there, how many chances did he miss on Saturday?

Don't be crass. I'm talking about Lyle Foster as a goalscorer in the relatively long time he's been here. If you wany to use that pitiful argument how many chances did we create last season and how many did he score? Some incredibly outrageous arguments developing on his behalf on this thread. Comparing him with Gyokeres, and looking the more likely £70m striker for instance. Just waiting for 'there's a player in there somewhere' or have we already done that one? He doesn't score goals or remotely look likely to get one. That is what I see and saw on Saturday and on many Saturdays for over 2 years now( a couple of times in a successful side).

[NL Claret]

Looking likely Foster will be the UTC MOM yet he's subject to the usual UTC unpopularity and singled out by many. There were far worse than him on Saturday yet they are free from criticism.

What would be the response if Foster had a poor game?

FWIW, is Foster the answer? Probably not.
Do I want Foster to be the answer, yes however there are some on here who would answer no to that question.

Trolls / hijackers please don't quote me. Thanks.

[warksclaret]

Jeez-hes not scoring many goals but as he showed on Saturday he put in a great shift against a side who were 2-0 up v PSG a few days earlier. Then we have a guy in our squad who cost more than Foster and has played for 20 minutes in the last 16 months getting away scott free and drawing a wage. If you want to vent your anger at players do it at him

Lets support Foster and let the manager decide if he plays. After Saturday Walker, Hartmann, Cullen and Foster should be the first names on the team sheet v Sunderland. If we can get him playing like Saturday and accomodate him in the team with Broje, we will create teams problems. For me we have ample "no 10's", but for me he is the one to be playing there with Broje upfront

[Enola Gay]

Looking likely Foster will be the UTC MOM yet he's subject to the usual UTC unpopularity and singled out by many. There were far worse than him on Saturday yet they are free from criticism.

Logged in to post something very similar, tbh.

Anyone who can look at Saturday and think Foster was the (or really even 'a') problem really wasn't paying attention.

[Silkyskills1]

Looking likely Foster will be the UTC MOM yet he's subject to the usual UTC unpopularity and singled out by many. There were far worse than him on Saturday yet they are free from criticism.



FWIW, is Foster the answer? Probably not.
Do I want Foster to be the answer, yes however there are some on here who would answer no to that question.

Trolls / hijackers please don't quote me. Thanks.

There were worse than him on Saturday and yes I would love to eat humble pie and see him succeed. I'm leaving it alone at that. Nowhere else to go.

[boyyanno]

Happy clapper alert.

You are incorrect. Some people can actually see and accept reality.

There is a difference between being miserable and pointing out things which are not good. If all you do is happy clap and blow smoke up the proverbial then you never find the problem. An Alcoholic cannot heal until they admit they have a problem.

You've literally slated Foster who had a good game this weekend, how is that for not being able to see and accept reality?

[RVclaret]

Another good game from Lyle today. Looked a proper PL number 9. Very nearly on 3 goals in 3 games right now too, without mentioning the overall outlet he’s been providing up there.

[CoolClaret]

Another good game from Lyle today. Looked a proper PL number 9. Very nearly on 3 goals in 3 games right now too, without mentioning the overall outlet he’s been providing up there.

Ball bounced off him a bit at times but very clinical with the finish and should have had another.

Incredibly tough gig for him today though playing as a lone striker against three at the back and he didn't stop running once.

[Procrastinate B]

Really, really, impressed with Lyle. Barely anything in the first half, but kept at it.

Second half, he looked composed. He’s got an unorthodox style, but there’s glimpses there of the player Kompany believed we’d purchased.

[Penwortham_Claret]

An absolute mystery how he looks a better player when playing at a higher level

[Newcastleclaret93]

Another good game from Lyle today. Looked a proper PL number 9. Very nearly on 3 goals in 3 games right now too, without mentioning the overall outlet he’s been providing up there.

There’s a really good player in there.

I think he’s player that thrives in counter attacking teams/ running into space.

If we can get him on the ball in the box more often I think we have the 10 goal striker we have all been after.

[Hibsclaret]

It’s not really a mystery. Playing against a low block he looks very poor. His pace on transition when used as an outlet is where he can shine. He doesn’t have to do that in the Championship.

[Tricky Trevor]

An absolute mystery how he looks a better player when playing at a higher level

More space allows him to utilise his pace. In the 2x Championship seasons we faced a lot of mass defences and he’s not a fox in the box type at all.

[Ric_C]

VAR absolutely rinse Lyle don't they?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

An absolute mystery how he looks a better player when playing at a higher level

Many players look better in the PL than the championship, but the mere suggestion of it sees people scoffing at the idea

Foster is a prime example of it

[Milltown1882]

Fantastic today

[THEWELLERNUT70]

It's a rarity that a player looks miles better in the PL than outside it. Maybe that's an attitude or desire issue, but there's no getting away from the fact that Foster has been very good so far this season

[warksclaret]

Lovely to see these comments-and to think one poster used the match thread to advise us he was cr..p

[scrambledclaret]

I thought he was very good again today and unlucky not to have a brace. Here's hoping the one that did stand gives him the confidence to get a few more.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Class act.

That little rat Bruno wouldn’t last 5 seconds with him. He cares for the club does our Lyle. He is a winner. He’s had demons but we need to get behind him.

[Taffy on the wing]

An absolute mystery how he looks a better player when playing at a higher level

He's fully fit ......makes all the difference.

[Vino blanco]

My man of the match again today, though he got bugger all service from Larsen and Anthony.

[Shaggy]

My man of the match again today, though he got bugger all service from Larsen and Anthony.

Pathetic tbh. Dubravka was clear MOM and it wasn’t even close .

Foster was at best 7/10 today and the +1 because he scored. We need better

[Burnleyareback2]

Delighted for Lyle today.

[GetIntoEm]

He's certainly got something in the prem hasn't he. Great again today.

I'm sure they'll still be 5's in the player rating post tho

[billyhamilton82]

Foster was superb.

Fully fit and you see the real player.

He's so unlucky with VAR, two already disallowed this season added to the Forest one last time around, there could be more but can't remember.

[Vegas Claret]

He's 24 now so it's a huge season for him and he's started really really well, very happy for him.