Fully Electric Cars

[Bosscat]

Just been down in Devon for a few days ... Just of the A361 near Barnstaple theres a new Service Station with huge High Speed Charging area (around 15 bays I think) nearby huge solar panel field(s) and 2 Wind Turbines to charge the DC battery storage facility.

Their fuel (petrol/deisel) also cheaper than anything else we saw including Supermarkets.

[Shaggy]

Aye course they aren't Shaggy - what credentials do you have to make such a claim?

Nuclear power is both clean, reliable and cheap. To get the equivalent power out of a wind farm it generally has to be a lot of square miles in area.

Wind farms are expensive and have a shorter life span. That’s before we even go into the likes of maintenance and reliability costs

[Plissken]

Wind turbines also tend not to require their spent fuel to be buried for 10,000 years.

[CoolClaret]

Nuclear power is both clean, reliable and cheap. To get the equivalent power out of a wind farm it generally has to be a lot of square miles in area.

Wind farms are expensive and have a shorter life span. That’s before we even go into the likes of maintenance and reliability costs

Ah no credentials then, thanks for clearing that up.

That's the beauty about offshore wind - we have a lot of space available with perfect mean wind speeds for energy extraction, why would you not want to use it?

Nuclear is great - will be, of course, used to meet peak demand, but let's not pretend that nuclear doesn't have sky-high maintenance costs, and needs a highly skilled workforce present around the clock at one plant.... and what happens when nuclear plants reach their lifecycle end?!

Not to mention that if we adopt more smart grid technology and build wind farms onshore, we can decentralise them and have them supply local areas - that's the great thing about renewable energy!

[Burnleyareback2]

I’m not here to preach at all, just share my personal experience.
I needed to change my car this year, fully intended to get another huge petrol engine to enjoy before they are outlawed. I’ve loved several previous V6 engine cars.

Started to look around in February at cars that I expected to be able to afford and the pricing had rocketed. I then decided I wanted something quick and a high spec.

Took my wife with me to test drive the Tesla Y which was in budget but only to prove that I needed to increase the budget.

I couldn’t fault the car, I’m sure there might be better electric cars out there but this was absolutely perfect- massive spec, quick and great value.

Had it 5 months now, had to change my mind set in many ways, as people have said already but so far I can’t fault it at all.

As someone said above - when away from home just add what you need. Charging the car overnight at home is not only dirt cheap, it’s more convenient than going to a petrol station.


At first panicking when the battery is 30% - I’d start to charge my phone at that stage, but that’s still 100miles. Tesla charging network is superb so far
I’m really happy with it.

[Holmechapel]

Looking at the state of the roads in and around Burnley ,how on earth are the council going to repair them when the road is flooded with super heavy EV’s and where is all the revenue coming from to replace the huge duty on conventional vehicles ,or does Ed Milliband have a magic money tree ?

[dougcollins]

My old motor had 'iconic sounds', it had a V8 engine.

[dougcollins]

Aye course they aren't Shaggy - what credentials do you have to make such a claim?

Much as I would lije to agree with you, Shaggy is right.

Turbines are literally ******* into the wind.

[dougcollins]

Aye course they aren't Shaggy - what credentials do you have to make such a claim?

Much as I would like to agree with you, Shaggy is right.

Turbines are literally ******* into the wind.

[dsr]

If you can charge at home, and can afford/bear to spend the money needed to get a decent one, then electric cars are fine. If you don't have home charging or don't want to spend silly money on a car, then stick to petrol.

[Plissken]

Looking at the state of the roads in and around Burnley ,how on earth are the council going to repair them when the road is flooded with super heavy EV’s and where is all the revenue coming from to replace the huge duty on conventional vehicles ,or does Ed Milliband have a magic money tree ?

Presumably the various taxes levied on the purchase of your 40mn new EVs next year.

You’re, like, really bad at this, man.

[Plissken]

Much as I would like to agree with you, Shaggy is right.

Turbines are literally ******* into the wind.

The wind literally pushes into the turbine. That’s kinda how they work.

One way I can convince you they are good though. Wind turbines are usually white, so you can paint a flag on it.

[CoolClaret]

Much as I would like to agree with you, Shaggy is right.

Turbines are literally ******* into the wind.

Why are you so confident in stating that?

I (quite literally) research this stuff. Offshore wind is mega.

[Holmechapel]

Presumably the various taxes levied on the purchase of your 40mn new EVs next year.

You’re, like, really bad at this, man.

And do you think it’ll stop there ,remember Gordon Brown and diesel cars ,10 yrs down the line EV’s will be toast ,what’s this ‘man’ business ? makes you sound like some stupid hippy.

[dougcollins]

The wind literally pushes into the turbine. That’s kinda how they work.

One way I can convince you they are good though. Wind turbines are usually white, so you can paint a flag on it.

Last time I checked they weren't even hitting 5% of overall requirement. They'd need that many there'd be one in your garden.

Thanks for the tip about the flag though.

[dougcollins]

I do apologise, it was meant to be 25%.

[IanMcL]

Nuclear power is both clean, reliable and cheap. To get the equivalent power out of a wind farm it generally has to be a lot of square miles in area.

Wind farms are expensive and have a shorter life span. That’s before we even go into the likes of maintenance and reliability costs

clean until it leaks.
Reliable until it leaks
Cheap except to build and then dismantle and a constant risk to us all.

[Leon_C]

The other is that the solution is... just wait 20 minutes.

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm only pointing this out, not advocating it.
I'm not remotely convinced by replacing batteries on a daily(ish) basis. Building the heaviest part of the vehicle INTO the body is surely the only way to ensure integrity?
Having points of failure built in for a few minutes convenience seems ridiculous to me. In any case, you'd need to drive up to/into these facilities anyway - and surely they would be less common than charging stations? Much more expensive to construct/run? It doesn't make any logical or economic sense to me, beyond the basic principle being 'interesting'.

[Rick_Muller]

.apologies, link didn’t work as expected

[GodIsADeeJay81]

clean until it leaks.
Reliable until it leaks
Cheap except to build and then dismantle and a constant risk to us all.

How often do they leak you negative nelly...

[No Ney Never]

A thread like this brings out the representation of the wider internet, some proper bell ends who have no idea what they're talking about, but want to post some sh1t none the less. If you have had a EV you would post knowledgeably, if not, you post sh1t. For you who are posting and have never had a EV, it's telling.

[Taffy on the wing]

Yet another reason to drive an electric car.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/opin ... cking.html

[dsr]

A thread like this brings out the representation of the wider internet, some proper bell ends who have no idea what they're talking about, but want to post some sh1t none the less. If you have had a EV you would post knowledgeably, if not, you post sh1t. For you who are posting and have never had a EV, it's telling.

Your idea that a thread about the pros and cons should only accept posts from the pro people is an interesting viewpoint.

What I don't like is your "clever" use of the number 1 to get round the swear filter. I don't know if it's because you think you're important enough that the rules should not apply to you, or if you genuinely do think that swearing makes you look big and clever, but it doesn't.

[No Ney Never]

Your idea that a thread about the pros and cons should only accept posts from the pro people is an interesting viewpoint.

What I don't like is your "clever" use of the number 1 to get round the swear filter. I don't know if it's because you think you're important enough that the rules should not apply to you, or if you genuinely do think that swearing makes you look big and clever, but it doesn't.

Why do you assume that all EV owners are pro?

[IanMcL]

How often do they leak you negative nelly...

Don't you realise that they all do? Once is more than enough.

Scotland houses England's nuclear subs and their repair based. It has just come to light that nuclear waste escaped and went straight into Loch Long - not a small Loch. Contaminated.

MOD never told anyone.

It only came to light after lots of investigation and they had to confirm.

Have you heard of Windscale?

So bad they changed its name!
The name of the site was changed to Sellafield in 1981, partly to distance the public image from the site's military role and accidents, such as the 1957 Windscale fire.

The potential disasters are horrendous. The dismantling costs prohibitive.

[Plissken]

Your idea that a thread about the pros and cons should only accept posts from the pro people is an interesting viewpoint.

Well, it would be quite good if the vast majority of the arguments about the cons came from people who weren't wearing tinfoil hats and could do up their own shoelaces.

[dsr]

Well, it would be quite good if the vast majority of the arguments about the cons came from people who weren't wearing tinfoil hats and could do up their own shoelaces.

I rally despise the argument that amounts to know more than "these people disagree with me so they must be stupid". You could try using this thread to put forward arguments for electric cars and wind power without the snide remarks and "look at me, I'm better than you" posts.

[Plissken]

You could try reading the thread to see that I have done so, and at the same time find out that I know what I'm talking about because I own an EV.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Don't you realise that they all do? Once is more than enough.

Scotland houses England's nuclear subs and their repair based. It has just come to light that nuclear waste escaped and went straight into Loch Long - not a small Loch. Contaminated.

MOD never told anyone.

It only came to light after lots of investigation and they had to confirm.

Have you heard of Windscale?

So bad they changed its name!
The name of the site was changed to Sellafield in 1981, partly to distance the public image from the site's military role and accidents, such as the 1957 Windscale fire.

The potential disasters are horrendous. The dismantling costs prohibitive.

How often do the large nuclear power stations leak?

You appear to be dead against them and an expert...

[Plissken]

In fairness, Chernobyl only exploded once.

[Stayingup]

Wind turbines also tend not to require their spent fuel to be buried for 10,000 years.

Yes thats very true but what about the plastic etc parts of a wind mill after its 10 years uis up? Where do these parts go?

[Plissken]

Compared to the bits of nuclear plant?

[IanMcL]

How often do the large nuclear power stations leak?

You appear to be dead against them and an expert...

More often than wr know and you don't need to be an expert to know the costs of decommissioning and the difficulty keeping that waste safe.