Stewards At Burnley CC

[burnleytom]

On X:
'Burnley FC Independent Supporters Association
@BurnleyFCISA
We have been made aware that many fans today have been denied entry to Burnley Cricket Club pre-match, by stewards working on behalf of the football club. We will try to seek clarification on this as it is our understanding that this should not be happening.'

I've looked on the board for this, but can't see anything. Is this referring to the chaos caused by man with cone in the road mentioned on the access for home fans thread, or is this another issue? As in stewards stopping pedestrians from entering the premises? Pretty serious if the second.....

[jrgbfc]

The stewards have no business dictating who goes in the cricket club. I'll wait for the full story but honestly wouldn't surprise me. Feels like thats been the main aim of the changes to me.

[CoolClaret]

I'd tell them, in no uncertain terms, to jump.

Find it hard to believe, but if true, that is truly shocking.

[Elizabeth]

Maybe better to get the clarification first before posting on X

[Leisure]

Not sure that BFC stewards would be located outside the entrance to the Cricket Club?

[Andingle]

I'd agree , can't see how you can stop people going onto somebody else's property unless it was at the request of the cricket club.

[Somethingfishy]

The big question is..Who owns the gate behind the cricket club from the pathway from Ormerod Yard? If it is the football club they could just lock it..but then it incoveniences the away fans and perhaps why it is being stewarded but If it is the cricket club then the football club have no right placing stewards to prevent people going through and the cricket club should be asking questions.

[wilks_bfc]

The big question is..Who owns the gate behind the cricket club from the pathway from Ormerod Yard? If it is the football club they could just lock it..but then it incoveniences the away fans and perhaps why it is being stewarded but If it is the cricket club then the football club have no right placing stewards to prevent people going through and the cricket club should be asking questions.

I’m assuming the stewards were on Belvedere Road and stopping fans from entering the CC

The gate in the fence between the CC and Ormerod Yard would need somebody on there to prevent home fans trying to go that way

[Somethingfishy]

I’m assuming the stewards were on Belvedere Road and stopping fans from entering the CC

The gate in the fence between the CC and Ormerod Yard would need somebody on there to prevent home fans trying to go that way

Yeah to be fair I realised that after posting but it is still an entrance fans could use. If that was open and not blocked off then I wouldn't see the point of fans being stopped going in the main gate as they'd just walk down and use this entrance. Are there BFC stewards at the end of the Ormerod Yard path to stop home fans going down there and there has just been confusion as the gates are next to each other? I know the CC have their own stewards on their gate taking payment for the car parking and I'd be amazed if they just allowed the BFC stewards to stop anyone walking in.
I sense a misunderstanding here rather than anything nefarious but the way things seem to be going..you never know.

[Quickenthetempo]

Stewards have always been outside the cricket club entrance and tge entrance to the lane.
I presume for fan safety with pedestrian supporters coming into contact with vehicles.

[Elizabeth]

There doesn't appear to have been much response from their initial tweet

I don't see the point of their tweet. Get the facts first

[jjclaret]

Be interesting to know what time this happened? My friend and I entered the cricket club, from Harry Potts Way, via Belvedere Rd and then cricket club gate via their car park, at just after 1:00. I was in my Burnley home shirt and a claret and blue rain coat. I had no problem getting in and no problems whatsoever inside. It was extremely busy on middle and top floor and strangely enough didn't see any other Burnley colours and we left at about 2:20.

[thingandwhere]

Not sure that BFC stewards would be located outside the entrance to the Cricket Club?

They were and have been for every game.

Also, every game, some of them have been directing home fans away from BCC and generally making it INCORRECTLY appear to be a no-go for home fans.

Seen this first hand and had it flagged numerous times in the club.

Getting tired of sounding like a broken record but BCC IS for home fans and Belvedere Road IS open to get to us.

[thingandwhere]

I'd tell them, in no uncertain terms, to jump.

Find it hard to believe, but if true, that is truly shocking.

It is true and has happened every game.

[Leisure]

Has anyone asked the Club about this issue?

[ClaretTony]

They were and have been for every game.

Also, every game, some of them have been directing home fans away from BCC and generally making it INCORRECTLY appear to be a no-go for home fans.

Seen this first hand and had it flagged numerous times in the club.

Getting tired of sounding like a broken record but BCC IS for home fans and Belvedere Road IS open to get to us.

I was aware this happened at the Sunderland game but believed/hoped it had been resolved.

Another issue yesterday seemed to be Burnley FC stewards on duty at the fire station preventing vehicles from going through to the tennis & cricket clubs.

It’s been flagged with the police (although it’s not their responsibility) and I’m checking with Forest fan reps to see if they had any issues.

[thingandwhere]

Has anyone asked the Club about this issue?

What do you mean?

[Leisure]

What do you mean?

Has anyone asked the Football Club if their stewards are directing people away from the cricket club and, if so, why?

[Cardclaret]

Also there was a club steward stood on the central reservation of the traffic lights in front of the bingo crossing towards town centre. Passed him at 1pm walking into town and again at 2pm on way back. He was just stood there in hi viz with his hood up hands in pocket. His jacket said something like Burnley FC traffic steward. Very odd he was doing absolutely nothing.

[Claret Till I Die]

Also there was a club steward stood on the central reservation of the traffic lights in front of the bingo crossing towards town centre. Passed him at 1pm walking into town and again at 2pm on way back. He was just stood there in hi viz with his hood up hands in pocket. His jacket said something like Burnley FC traffic steward. Very odd he was doing absolutely nothing.

Was he there to direct away coaches?

[manuelbenny]

I parked my car on the tennis club but Belvdere Road was condoned off at the fire station so I turned right after Thompson park on Ormerod Road before I got to lights so I could park at the tennis club. This was about 1pm. I then headed towards the pubs under the culvert and walked past the cricket club. A guy on the gate said to me "Do you want to go to the cricket club?"
It seems to me that Pace is "waging war" against the cricket club
Apparently, if you request to go through these road blocks, the stewards manning them let you through. Maybe the club are trying to make it look that Belvedere Road is a no go zone when they have absolutely no right to do this

[Cardclaret]

Was he there to direct away coaches?

Don't think so Forest team coaches went last at 1pm and he didn't look up, he just stared at the ground hands in pockets.

[Claret Till I Die]

Don't think so Forest team coaches went last at 1pm and he didn't look up, he just stared at the ground hands in pockets.

There was a Forest fans bus heading under the culvert from the Turf lights about 1.45pm as we walked around to the Park View.

[Barlickclaret]

Apparently, if you request to go through these road blocks, the stewards manning them let you through. Maybe the club are trying to make it look that Belvedere Road is a no go zone when they have absolutely no right to do this

Not a chance the club can do that, if belvedere Rd is a no go zone (which it's not) then only the police can do that.

[ŽižkovClaret]

Predictable really....

UTH

[The Shire Claret]

Reading this post and haven’t seen if the Cricket Club was less busy ?

[Vince Fontaine]

If you get to the fire station and want to go down Belvedere Rd. just pull up to the road closed sign and tell the steward that you are going to the tennis club. He will move the cone and let you through. I’ve done this for the last 3 matches no problem and will be doing so on Tuesday.
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[Bfc]

I’ve just been on the Burnley Council site, re road closures. This shows detailed information on the policy for road closures. I’m sure some of our more learned readers, who have not read the policy, will maybe pick the bones of whether the Football Club have abided to the strict requirements to obtain any road closures. Perhaps someone could copy and paste the legislation onto this article.
Given the Fire Station is on Belvedere Rd and Ambulances use the route to get to emergency call outs, as quickly as possible. Do they get re routed?. There is threat to life, as a consequence of delays reaching victims, because of the Football Club, putting the road closure policy in place Bus routes, are also affected by the closures.
Maybe if a Burnley or Lancs Highways Councillor is reading this, they could comment or advise, to whether the strict rules, regulations re road closures are lawful.

[FCBurnley]

Predictable really....

UTH

What is predictable ?

[ŽižkovClaret]

What is predictable ?

The football club trying to divert custom away from the CC on matchdays, as a result of the CFS changes

[FCBurnley]

The football club trying to divert custom away from the CC on matchdays, as a result of the CFS changes

Pathetic and probably unlawful if true unless the FC own Belvedere Road !!

[beddie]

If you get to the fire station and want to go down Belvedere Rd. just pull up to the road closed sign and tell the steward that you are going to the tennis club. He will move the cone and let you through. I’ve done this for the last 3 matches no problem and will be doing so on Tuesday.
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[dougcollins]

Reading this post and haven’t seen if the Cricket Club was less busy ?

It won't be if it's full of Forest fans.

[thingandwhere]

Reading this post and haven’t seen if the Cricket Club was less busy ?

Yes it is. The problem is, we’re repeatedly assured the issues won’t be there the next game… but they are happening once again.


We’re open from 4pm tomorrow until late. Game will be on TV. Home fans welcome as ever - regardless of what BFC comms say, stewards tell people or multiple roadblocks make it appear is happening.

[thingandwhere]

Predictable really....

UTH

Go on, I’ll bite.

Why up the house for this?

Paul, BCC member

[Claretnick]

Yes it is. The problem is, we’re repeatedly assured the issues won’t be there the next game… but they are happening once again.


We’re open from 4pm tomorrow until late. Game will be on TV. Home fans welcome as ever - regardless of what BFC comms say, stewards tell people or multiple roadblocks make it appear is happening.

Is it practical to have a couple of CC members stationed with the stewards to correct any duff info they are giving to motorists and/or pedestrians about the availability of the CC bar. Do the stewards get bussed in from out of the area?

[Row x]

Yes it is. The problem is, we’re repeatedly assured the issues won’t be there the next game… but they are happening once again.


We’re open from 4pm tomorrow until late. Game will be on TV. Home fans welcome as ever - regardless of what BFC comms say, stewards tell people or multiple roadblocks make it appear is happening.

What have BFC comms said?

[Blue Skies]

My advice is ignore the BFC stewards, they cannot physically stop you on the highway, they can advise. Last two home games the police on the corner of HP way and Belvedere Road have let me through by asking "are you going to the CC?" A steward tried to stop me so I ignored him and carried on. He would have to call the police to arrest you I guess who have just let you through. It's a shambles though I agree.

[Quickenthetempo]

Yes it is. The problem is, we’re repeatedly assured the issues won’t be there the next game… but they are happening once again.


We’re open from 4pm tomorrow until late. Game will be on TV. Home fans welcome as ever - regardless of what BFC comms say, stewards tell people or multiple roadblocks make it appear is happening.

Can you put a sign up near the entrance welcoming home fans or even a sign on the corner?

[FCBurnley]

Yes it is. The problem is, we’re repeatedly assured the issues won’t be there the next game… but they are happening once again.


We’re open from 4pm tomorrow until late. Game will be on TV. Home fans welcome as ever - regardless of what BFC comms say, stewards tell people or multiple roadblocks make it appear is happening.

Sounds like the FC are clearly trying to stop the CC making a bit of profit and supplying sorely needed parking and decent beer. If BFC stewards are trying to stop supporters of either team entering the cricket ground then I suggest you get the police to remove them Good luck tomorrow

[Row x]

I parked my car on the tennis club but Belvdere Road was condoned off at the fire station so I turned right after Thompson park on Ormerod Road before I got to lights so I could park at the tennis club. This was about 1pm. I then headed towards the pubs under the culvert and walked past the cricket club. A guy on the gate said to me "Do you want to go to the cricket club?"
It seems to me that Pace is "waging war" against the cricket club
Apparently, if you request to go through these road blocks, the stewards manning them let you through. Maybe the club are trying to make it look that Belvedere Road is a no go zone when they have absolutely no right to do this

"Pace waging war against the cricket club"

That's a weird suggestion, most of the cricket clubs income on match day is from away fans.

The new set up, with away supporters coaches parked right outside, means more might go into the cricket club, whereas before they went straight into the ground and bought drinks and food in there, so in effect its actually taking business away from the football club.

[jrgbfc]

"Pace waging war against the cricket club"

That's a weird suggestion, most of the cricket clubs income on match day is from away fans.

The new set up, with away supporters coaches parked right outside, means more might go into the cricket club, whereas before they went straight into the ground and bought drinks and food in there, so in effect its actually taking business away from the football club.

I bet there's a lot less home fans going though, certainly after the game.

[Barlickclaret]

With the cricket season finished, they should be happy all the away fans go in, plus they charge for parking on there, no other cricket club gets that out of season, different business to the football club so why is the football club to blame for less people going in.

[Sapperclaret73]

Go on, I’ll bite.

Why up the house for this?

Paul, BCC member

Because they’ve got to keep the trend of being arrogant and unlikeable.

[Loyalclaret]

Can you put a sign up near the entrance welcoming home fans or even a sign on the corner?

They have a banner on the fence close to the LED display on the corner but probably not close enough to HPW. Can't recall exactly what it says.

For those saying it's OK as away fans are in, they have been in for years but with BFC fans. The difference will be that they will all have cleared off by 6pm at the latest, where as Saturday would have previously seen people dripping wet through stopping for the nearest beer/nene, alongside the regular BFC fans who would stay until 7pm+.

My mate talked to the steward on Saturday to see if he could walk through the gate to the fanzone with 3 kids under 6yr old. NO, as expected - walk all the way around in the rain.

[GetIntoEm]

I went in the cc on Saturday. Nay bother

[thingandwhere]

With the cricket season finished, they should be happy all the away fans go in, plus they charge for parking on there, no other cricket club gets that out of season, different business to the football club so why is the football club to blame for less people going in.

Not all away fans come in the Cricket Club - especially given they get directed down Ormerod Yard from their coaches. Also, as said, football games isn’t the huge windfall people seem to think it is. Anyway, that isn’t the point - it’s about home fans, our regulars and members, being told false information and having to get through a minimum of two checkpoints just to use the cricket club.

Some people get through no problem but the fact is some (not all) BFC stewards are actively and incorrectly (whether deliberately instructed or just misinformed, impossible to say) directing home fans away from BCC. This is a fact and we had more complaints raised to us about it over weekend.

We also had volunteer staff seeing it first hand at the top of the drive and having to correct what was being told to people.

I understand some people don’t care about this as BCC isn’t their match-day local… What if the same was happening to your preferred match-day pub for no fair reason?

Open from 4pm today by the way. Up The Clarets.

[The Shire Claret]

Not all away fans come in the Cricket Club - especially given they get directed down Ormerod Yard from their coaches. Also, as said, football games isn’t the huge windfall people seem to think it is. Anyway, that isn’t the point - it’s about home fans, our regulars and members, being told false information and having to get through a minimum of two checkpoints just to use the cricket club.

Some people get through no problem but the fact is some (not all) BFC stewards are actively and incorrectly (whether deliberately instructed or just misinformed, impossible to say) directing home fans away from BCC. This is a fact and we had more complaints raised to us about it over weekend.

We also had volunteer staff seeing it first hand at the top of the drive and having to correct what was being told to people.

I understand some people don’t care about this as BCC isn’t their match-day local… What if the same was happening to your preferred match-day pub for no fair reason?

Open from 4pm today by the way. Up The Clarets.

I don't go to the CC but always hear that it’s a great place for home and away fans to mix and it’s a great story for many fans that travel in that Burnley is a friendly place to travel to. I always tell people that have an ignorant negative view of Burnley fans about the CC and that it’s away friendly and next to our Home.

It’s Burnley Heritage and should be commended by the club


Anything other than this , is just wrong

[AlargeClaret]

I thought to get in the CC now you had to walk around the ground like fans do for the Longside ? Aren’t Stewards in the car park to stop the cutting through ? ( just before CFS entrance ) Or are fans supposed to be allowed to just enter the CC by the normal entrance next to the new away fans entrance ?

[dsr]

With the cricket season finished, they should be happy all the away fans go in, plus they charge for parking on there, no other cricket club gets that out of season, different business to the football club so why is the football club to blame for less people going in.

If the football club blocks roads and tells people they are not allowed to patronise a particular local business, then obviously the football club is to blame if fewer people visit that business.