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Duckett Terrace

Post by winsomeyen » Tue May 19, 2020 4:50 pm

My daughter is in the process of searching our family tree and has come across Duckett Terrace in Burnley and all I can think of is Ducketts Ceramics

somewhere near to where Trafalgar flats were,can any of the older end help.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 19, 2020 5:12 pm

There's a Duckett Street which is off Accrington Road

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by claptrappers_union » Tue May 19, 2020 5:14 pm

Someone once posted a link on here to a website that overlays old maps onto google earth...

Anyone know what it was called?

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by claretburns » Tue May 19, 2020 5:26 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 5:14 pm
Someone once posted a link on here to a website that overlays old maps onto google earth...

Anyone know what it was called?
This link here shows an old map of Burnley.

For the OP cannot find a Duckett Terrace in the Accrington Road area unfortunately, but have found reference to it on a couple of death certificates of people who died living on Duckett Terrace, one in 1938 and one in 1952.

http://www.archiuk.com/cgi-bin/build_nl ... search.com

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by ChrisG » Tue May 19, 2020 5:27 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 5:14 pm
Someone once posted a link on here to a website that overlays old maps onto google earth...

Anyone know what it was called?
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by ... ht=BingHyb

This is it I think

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by claretburns » Tue May 19, 2020 5:28 pm

This link shows you old map on the left, compared with today on the right, gives you the option to change the year as well.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by ... ht=BingHyb

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by winsomeyen » Tue May 19, 2020 5:31 pm

The information we have re Duckett Terrace is from the 1911 census.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Tue May 19, 2020 5:33 pm

I’d already checked on the geo maps. It’s not there.
A google search shows it as Habergham Eaves. With a lot of weddings and funerals listed for the early 50s. Unfortunately no locations.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Winstonswhite » Tue May 19, 2020 5:41 pm

I’ve checked on old maps and it was behind the new Starbucks very close to the railway. Looks like it could have been a back to back with Campbell Street, obviously long since demolished.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by winsomeyen » Tue May 19, 2020 5:50 pm

Thanks for your help guys.
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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Claretpete » Wed May 20, 2020 12:47 am

Duckett Terrace was a short terrace which linked Accrington Road (opposite Holy Trinity Church) with Westgate (opposite Junction Street).
There was only a couple of houses on it as I recall

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by venza30024 » Fri Sep 26, 2025 2:09 pm

Hello from the states.

I have been tirelessly looking at old maps for Duckett Terrace as my Great Great Grandfather owned a store(s) on the corner in the late 1800-early 1900s. Albert Bury. I believe I have located his plot in the Burnley Cemetery (A19732), but to date no traces of Duckett Terrace other than the information posted about it being close to Trinity Church. Looks to be a Coomes & Co. Boot store between the 2.

Thoughts?
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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Stanbill05 » Fri Sep 26, 2025 2:52 pm

Near Dean St/Pomfret St if my fading memories visiting grandparents 35 years ago is still good.. BB114AB.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by RicardoMontalban » Fri Sep 26, 2025 3:15 pm

Stanbill05 wrote:
Fri Sep 26, 2025 2:52 pm
Near Dean St/Pomfret St if my fading memories visiting grandparents 35 years ago is still good.. BB114AB.
There was a Duckett Street next to Dean Street which was demolished about ten years ago. It ran between Pomfret St and Blannell St. I’ve looked at the old OS and Lanark maps from both 1890 and 1910 and there’s no mention of Duckett Terrace in that area.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by mikeS » Fri Sep 26, 2025 3:18 pm

Location shown here. Behind Barracks road backing onto the railway.
Not sure of the year it was demolished. 1960s sometime.
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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by RicardoMontalban » Fri Sep 26, 2025 3:24 pm

Found it, just near the barracks.
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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by venza30024 » Fri Sep 26, 2025 3:46 pm

Thanks, Mike and Ricardo. Based on the angle of the store, I am assuming they were on Accrington Rd and the corner of Duckett Terrace. Long demolished, but now I have a footprint. Thank you all!

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Sep 26, 2025 5:15 pm

There are 2 inns marked on that first map. I'm assuming the one bottom left is The Angel?

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by gawthorpe_view » Fri Sep 26, 2025 5:25 pm

I really like these sort of threads.
Often come with a satisfactory ending.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by venza30024 » Mon Sep 29, 2025 4:22 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Fri Sep 26, 2025 5:15 pm
There are 2 inns marked on that first map. I'm assuming the one bottom left is The Angel?
Based on what I am seeing, I think you are correct. Or at least the Angel was it's most current name.
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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Sep 29, 2025 5:11 pm

On a previous similar thread it became apparent that the gym (previously VW dealership) and the Travelodge are sitting on the site of the barracks and from what's being shown on those maps it looks like Campbell St, Duckett St and Clyde St are on the land now occupied by Starbucks and the petrol station. It seems like there were a lot of streets/houses on what is actually a pretty small, oddly triangular shaped piece of land backing onto the railway.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Loyalclaret » Mon Sep 29, 2025 8:05 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Fri Sep 26, 2025 5:15 pm
There are 2 inns marked on that first map. I'm assuming the one bottom left is The Angel?
That would make the other The General Havelock?

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by MeeActon1 » Mon Sep 29, 2025 8:46 pm

Loyalclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 29, 2025 8:05 pm
That would make the other The General Havelock?
No, the Havelock is diagonally opposite the Angel on the corner of Barracks/Accy Road. The other marked Inn on Barracks Road was the long gone General Campbell which closed in 1968.
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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Bosscat » Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:01 pm

We had a "Chris Duckett" lived in LP and played for our village cricket side back in the late 80's early 90's 🙂

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by DingleDangle » Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:23 pm

https://www.burnleyinthegreatwar.info/s ... ksroad.htm

Found this site that lists some of the families and pubs that lived on Barracks Road and vicinity in 1937.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by DingleDangle » Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:29 pm

This is a bit more readable.

Burnley Roll of Honour Barracks Road

Barracks road Families 1937

Note, As you turn onto Barracks road from Accrington road, there are no houses on
the right hand side until you get passed the Infantry Barracks. Starting with #33

#4-#6 Wilkinson J General Havelock Inn
Campbell back street
#8 Green S Labourer
#10 Driver H Fitter
#12 Bailey R Mrs
#14 Waring J T Miner
#16 Baines W R Carter
#18-#20 Johnson A J General Campbell Inn
#22 Higson F Miner
#24 Farrer M Mrs
#26 Stanworth H Labourer
Stevenson Square
#28 Hutchinson S J Mrs
#30 Dugan G Miner
Clyde street
Napier street
Livingstone street
#32 Clogg J
#34 Holden A Fish carter
#36 Jackson T Hairdresser
#38 Ayngo T
#40 Holgate J Mrs Dressmaker
#42 Dilworth T Clogger
#44 Dunleavy M Mrs
#46 is missing
#48 Hughes H Weaver
#50 Holt J Labourer
Radcliffe Terrace

In the old Barracks
Balshaw W Caretaker
Hagget Sergeant Major
Ducketts Building
23 families lived here

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:35 pm

Loyalclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 29, 2025 8:05 pm
That would make the other The General Havelock?
No, as Meeaction says, the Havelock was on the corner diagonally opposite the Angel so I knew the other marked pub wasn't that as I remember it. Funnily enough my next question was going to be, what was that other pub which is marked and he's answered it, although I don't ever remember the General Campbell.
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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Loyalclaret » Tue Sep 30, 2025 7:36 am

MeeActon1 wrote:
Mon Sep 29, 2025 8:46 pm
No, the Havelock is diagonally opposite the Angel on the corner of Barracks/Accy Road. The other marked Inn on Barracks Road was the long gone General Campbell which closed in 1968.
Thank you. Is there a reason why it is not marked as an Inn?

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Sep 30, 2025 8:36 am

Loyalclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 7:36 am
Thank you. Is there a reason why it is not marked as an Inn?
That's a good point and I did wonder that myself. With a name like The General Havelock (Crimean War?) and being basically directly outside the barracks, I'm assuming it had been there some considerable time and should have been there when that map was produced.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Claretnick » Tue Sep 30, 2025 8:40 am

Dark Cloud wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 8:36 am
That's a good point and I did wonder that myself. With a name like The General Havelock (Crimean War?) and being basically directly outside the barracks, I'm assuming it had been there some considerable time and should have been there when that map was produced.
Found this on the internet;

Jack Nadin local historian and author writes

"The ‘Havelock’ was originally a small beerhouse that dated from around 1868, when it was owned by James Mitchell, though it didn’t have a name at this time. James Mitchell was still running the place in 1879 when it was selling Massey’s ales. The beerhouse was given a full license in 1930 when the license was transferred from the New Sparrow Hawk which was closed down in that year. The pub is listed as being at 4 and 6 Barracks Road in the mid 1940s, the landlord at this time was John Wilkinson. Today’s regulars might be somewhat surprised to note that the General Havelock is named after a teetotaller. The name of the pub commemorates the British leader in the Indian Mutiny that commanded the column of men who in September 1857 effected the relief of Lucknow. Major Henry Sir James Havelock was born in Bishopwearmouth in Sunderland, the second son of Henry Havelock a well-to-do ship owner."
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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by MeeActon1 » Tue Sep 30, 2025 8:57 am

Loyalclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 7:36 am
Thank you. Is there a reason why it is not marked as an Inn?
As per a later answer, Beer Houses were not marked whilst PH, Inns and Hotels were, I think Beer Houses were literally private residences that had a licence to sell beer only, not wine or spirits. As the later answer from Nick says, the Havelock received a full licence much later.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Funkydrummer » Tue Sep 30, 2025 12:19 pm

I've not had time to check this out yet, but I'm pretty sure that Ducketts were a company that manufactured clay piping and fittings mainly for main drainage. I seem to recall seeing a kiln/kilns on site where Sutcliffes are currently off Burnham Gate. I'm also fairly sure
they made the tall glazed urinals as well as I can remember, as a lad, coming face to face with their name/logo whilst paying a visit !!!

If I get chance, I'll do a bit of digging unless someone beats me to it.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Funkydrummer » Tue Sep 30, 2025 12:33 pm

Seems to be quite a bit of their stuff for sale ont t'internet too.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Funkydrummer » Tue Sep 30, 2025 12:39 pm

https://www.google.com/search?q=duckett ... =127&dpr=4

Want to buy some, or see their products ?

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Claretnick » Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:19 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 12:19 pm
I've not had time to check this out yet, but I'm pretty sure that Ducketts were a company that manufactured clay piping and fittings mainly for main drainage. I seem to recall seeing a kiln/kilns on site where Sutcliffes are currently off Burnham Gate. I'm also fairly sure
they made the tall glazed urinals as well as I can remember, as a lad, coming face to face with their name/logo whilst paying a visit !!!

If I get chance, I'll do a bit of digging unless someone beats me to it.
My great grandad used to work at Ducketts loading the kilns with the ceramics for firing. He lived with my great grandmother on Nairne Street, he would call in the Angel pub after work for a pint to cool off ;) ... I remember some years ago calling into a public convenience in Chester to be faced with a Ducketts urinal. Strange feeling that he probably handled it into and out of the kiln in Burnley.

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Re: Duckett Terrace

Post by Claretnick » Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:22 pm

:geek:
Funkydrummer wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 12:32 pm
Well, that didn't take long.

https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... %20burnley
An interesting article by Jack Nadin again in the LET. Sorry about the adverts! Mr Duckett comes across as a decent entrepreneur.
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/n ... it-famous/

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