A letter to Oliver Holt - Mail on Sunday

[nil_desperandum]

"He certainly is - her real name is Eileen Holt." I thought it was Derbyshire or is Holt her maiden name?

Holt is her married name - hence her son is Oliver Holt.
Derbyshire is actually her maiden name, not, as some might suspect, her "professional" or "stage" name.

[ClaretTony]

"He certainly is - her real name is Eileen Holt." I thought it was Derbyshire or is Holt her maiden name?

I don't know whether Derbyshire is her maiden name or just a name she's taken for her acting, but her married name is Holt and Oliver Holt is her son.

[ClaretTony]

Holt is her married name - hence her son is Oliver Holt.
Derbyshire is actually her maiden name, not, as some might suspect, her "professional" or "stage" name.

Wasn't so sure on the Derbyshire.

[blackadmac2]

the population of leicester was 342,627 at 2011 census. (the city of leicester).

[nil_desperandum]

Wasn't so sure on the Derbyshire.

I'm not 100% certain, but there is no reference anywhere to any other maiden name, and she is a Lancastrian (or Mancunian) by birth so there's no "Derbyshire" link. She didn't marry till 1966 - long after her professional debut.
Out of interest: Sarah Lancashire. It's definitely her real name.

[ralph]

It’s called a comparison and contrast point – a tactic often used by journalists where they put across an argument about the subject to their readers without it being meant to be taken 100% literally. I was making that point in terms that a tabloid journalist, who knows little of the area, could relate to.

Saying that Burnley has “just 1,449,300 people to call upon” (population of Lancashire) would not have made the same ‘punching above our weight’ argument as effectively or put our performance into true perspective.

With all due respect I'll stand be my original comment frankly your's is a pathetic argument - to throw the whole of Lancashire in is ridiculous

Pendle/Rossendale/Ribble Valley and Hyndburn are all within twenty/thirty minutes of our ground and have all always had decent levels of Burnley support especially Pendle and Rossendale who don't really suffer from the Blue and White influence to the same degree ...

[ClaretTony]

Out of interest: Sarah Lancashire. It's definitely her real name.

Now that one I did know - her dad Geoffrey Lancashire was a Corrie scriptwriter.

[keith1879]

With all due respect I'll stand be my original comment frankly your's is a pathetic argument - to throw the whole of Lancashire in is ridiculous

Pendle/Rossendale/Ribble Valley and Hyndburn are all within twenty/thirty minutes of our ground and have all always had decent levels of Burnley support especially Pendle and Rossendale who don't really suffer from the Blue and White influence to the same degree ...

I look forward to seeing an example of a premier league club where the support (average home gate) is a greater percentage of the surrounding population than Burnley's. Draw your circle around the clubs any distance you like - you'll struggle to find a top division club (and probably championship also) that doesn't have more population to call on. Unless of course you deliberately choose to skew the data in some way by including Accrington and forgetting that they have their own club and Rovers allso within shouting distance.

[Man of Kent]

With all due respect I'll stand be my original comment frankly your's is a pathetic argument - to throw the whole of Lancashire in is ridiculous

I didn't throw that one in - if you took the time to read what I said rather than frothing at the mouth, you'll see that was not the point I made. I didn't ask for or expect any 'due respect' either. Just a calm, rational response to my letter (I did ask if anyone agreed with me) without adding your own aggressive, adjectives (such as the word 'pathetic') was all it should have taken. You are clearly perpetually outraged by any alternative thought to yours - like many on social media nowadays sadly.

[IanMcL]

Emily Bishop's son? She kept that quiet! Did Ernest know?