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Young talented Aussie lad

Post by clentclaret » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:25 am

In Australia for a year (Queensland). Decent local 12 year old was star of national tournament. When I saw him he looked class. I thought with Aiden O' Neil coming from Brisbane, it might be worth giving someone from Burnley a heads up. Anyone know if it would be worth contacting someone and if so who

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by bobinho » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:03 pm

It's a nice idea.

I'm sure future generations will discuss fondly how simply discussing a Belgian footballer on here years ago saw us sign him and that's how he became a PL legend.

Not dissing your idea tho. Hope it's looked at. Stars of tomorrow have to be looked at. I do worry about young talent going to waste, but that normally happens after they have been signed up by the likes of manure and chelski, then discarded after they couldn't dislodge the current big names. Maybe coming to us at this time wouldn't be much different?

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by ecc » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:00 pm

Bit harsh that.

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by Rowls » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:21 pm

Hopefully someone will reply with good info.

Who was scouting for us in Oceana when we secured O'Neill and Howieson? Are they still there and working for the club?

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:31 pm

Where in Queensland are you,clentclaret? We have relatives that live close by Surfers Paradise. What was it about the young player that impressed you the most?

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by clentclaret » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:38 pm

Impressed with touch, vision and attitude. Captained Queensland in national tournament where he was stand out player. Family thinking of moving over to Europe (? Taken advice)to further career. It's a long shot I know but, as rowls says, if anyone over here who could have a look or make contact would be good
I'm in rockhampton, on Tropic of Capricorn. Coming back january

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by BennyD » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:43 pm

Give the club a call, and you may become a claret supporters legend!

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by DCWat » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:11 am

How many recommendations from abroad would a club like ours receive, from an uneducated source (and I mean no disrespect by that term).

My point being that it's probably not a huge number and probably not a number the cost to put a few 'follow up' feelers out there would be particularly excessive, in the grand scheme.

OK so there may be a few duff recommendations but I'm sure there are plenty of fans who would spot some real talent if it was there to be seen and if just one of those was to come to fruition, it'd have been worth the effort.

We've fans all over the world so perhaps, just perhaps there are some gems out there that they have seen.

Certainly doesn't justify the shitty comments that have been put on this thread.

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by ralph8 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:37 am

Well done for trying to help the scouting network, any club should follow up a good lead. Ignore the response from the smart arse comedian.

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by ClaretDiver » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:29 am

Living here in Thailand many of our Burmese boys are fantastically talented football players. Not Premier League quality but defo League 1/Championship with a view to making it....we have one lad who works for us who would run rings round many players...and he plays in dive boots cause he cant afford football boots.....

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by Claret Till I Die » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:44 am

Is he Robbie Blake's son ?
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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:56 am

Any football club in today's world should be using the 'uneducated' fan/scouting base to make the first step to building a world class scouting network. In days gone by scouts used to visit 'feeder' clubs and boys wishing to make it would need to be at this club to be seen. Wallasey (sp) Boys Club being one such example.

Today we have a nation and a globe that is interconnected via the web. That means performance can be analysed in real time without leaving your home/office.

For example: Mercedes F1 team have a team of analysts sat in an office in Britain reciving and giving real time information about the car and race to the engineer to pass to the driver. Why fly everyone to Tokyo when you can fly key heads and keep everyone else ever they're supposed to be.

Opinion, and until academy level that's all it really is, is the first filtering system in the scouting network before performance analysis kicks in, I.e. Is he tall enough, athletic enough, or technical analysis I.e with the ball how many received passes turner into completed passes, or how many dribbles turned into penetration into the penalty box. The way in which football 'performance' is measured isn't how you think!

You think that a boy running rings around others is an outstanding talent and it is, but is it an effective talent, is it coachable, is it transferable. Performance isn't measured just on talent or performance (other wise Jordan Rhodes wouldn't have a career) it's a mix of the two.

Players who are dropped from academy football are in the main uncoachable, they have talent, the have performance, they don't have both in enough quantity. Jesse Lingard is a prime example, he is coachable, where as others in that generation we're not. He's made it the others have had to leave or make a career further down the pyramid.

I appreciate to put this across fully would take more time than this but I'm sure you can gather my idea.
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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by The Sofa Shifter » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:09 am

Lads, we don’t even have any youth scouts in Burnley, let alone Manchester, Liverpool or Australia. Big job for whoever comes in, all of the scouts have been sacked / left.

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:41 am

There's something wrong about asking a young lad to move half way across the world on the off chance he can become a footballer.

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:59 am

I'd say the first step would be for the OP to contact the club, but also see if any video footage can be taken. Although I'm guessing this might be the stumbling block, as I doubt many parents would be happy with someone stood at the side of the pitch filming kids, even though it is perfectly above board. But without that, the club would be going blind, with nothing to go off other than someone's opinion.

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by Claretnick » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:46 am

I am sure I read somewhere a couple of weeks ago that the club were looking at a link up with an Australian club. It might have been in the Perth area and the article had pictures of an acadamy coach working with some youngsters out there.
I have done a quick search on the club site without any joy. Still it might be worthwhile sending the club an email.

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by SydneyClaret » Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:59 pm

You do know that there's a professional league in Australia right. If he's good enough he'll get into a club here first then move on later.

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by bobinho » Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:23 pm

Sorry if this comes across not very well, but how much money is floating around the Aussie pro league? I genuinely don't know, but in this day and age, when kids want to be famous/rich overnite, this may be the ruling factor in this sort of decision.

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by DingleDangle » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:34 pm

This is the article from last week regarding BFC linking with ECU Joondalup - https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport ... s-burnley/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by Claretnick » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:35 pm

DingleDangle wrote:This is the article from last week regarding BFC linking with ECU Joondalup - https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport ... s-burnley/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks DingleDangle for finding the article, I was beginning to wonder if I had actually read it or dreamt it :)

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by Claret00 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:23 pm

The club did have links in Australia & New Zealand & a Burnley "acadamy" side visited the UK playing matches against local youth teams between 2013 & 2015.
On their first two tours, they played as Burnley Fc Acadamy Australasia. On their last visit they were playing as Balcatta fc from Perth.

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by clentclaret » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:10 pm

Sorry to bring this up but Burnley FC are talent spotting, in Rockhampton, on February 6. They should get a good look at him. They've set something up for the whole of Queensland, hope it brings some reward
I'm back in UK now and looking forward to first Burnley game of season Saturday

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Re: Young talented Aussie lad

Post by jdrobbo » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:33 pm

With the greatest respect to those who have replied with sarcasm, there are several people on here alone, who have contacted the club in recent years about players abroad.

Indeed, our recent friend, Lotty, recommended that the club took a look at Anthony Knockaert when he was playing for Guingamp. Leicester benefited from our club choosing not to take up the tip-off. I don't think Lotty even received a reply. Just one of many.

We need to be careful as fans that we don't throw names at the club like we're playing Champ Man, but we also need to acknowledge that many people have made many a good suggestion down the years that have turned out to be huge misses, signing for other clubs in England and going on to have excellent careers!
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