Naivety will cost us dearly ...

[CnBtruntru]

That was when we played a half season of predominantly home games.

But the point is we are averaging 1.2 so as is we should still expect the same results for the last 14 games, Home or Away simple Maths and it has to be simple if I am doing it

[cricketfieldclarets]

But the point is we are averaging 1.2 so as is we should still expect the same results for the last 14 games, Home or Away simple Maths and it has to be simple if I am doing it

I hope so. And I think so.

[CnBtruntru]

As said Up North, we'll be alreight lad.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Pleas tell me it's a wind-up.

I think both the OP and his mate Cricketfield have had a bash at it recently.

[cricketfieldclarets]

I think both the OP and his mate Cricketfield have had a bash at it recently.

You think wrong

[Bin Ont Turf]

Okay then Cricketfield.

A bit of advice though... next time you watch Burnley away, go and stand/sit with the fans who are like minded and want to make a noise, and not with the Bob Lord Ultras and Junior Clarets.

[MrHungry]

I've read some unbelievable bo11ox on this board over the years, but I don't ever recall anybody crammiming so much utter bo11ocks into a single post as the OP has here.

Take a bow , my man.

I agree call for the doctors.....for him and the rest of his followers!

[mickleoverclaret]

I agree with the OP. There's an incredible amount of naivety in people acting like we're effectively safe when we're far from it. 1 point away all season and running out of home games fast (3 of those being Chelsea, Spurs and United who are all pushing at the top).

On the topic of Dyche he's done great things for the club but he isn't a big player manager. He can't manage Defour without leaks of rumours of moves to China etc and there comes a point where if we do stay up we will have to attract bigger higher profile players and I don't think Dyche will ever be that level of manager.

Some things need to change as the picture could look extremely different by the next time we play at home in the league after Chelsea.

Would you class Barton as a big player? I'd say he certainly is at Championship level

[KRBFC]

1 goal from open play away from home this season paints its own picture, home form is incredible but we're running out of winnable home games.

[HieronymousBoschHobs]

Dyche's main skill as a coach is in his man-management I think. Quite a few of our players are colourful characters but he gets them to play as if they really cared about the badge. Being on home turf with a home crowd bolsters the sense of being a team who are greater than the sum of your parts. That psychological boost effects every team in the league, but it is what turns losses into wins for us. Other teams can show up in a hostile ground with little backing and still produce three points because they can rely on the quality of their players. We can't, because individually we are well below the average in this league. That said, we only need a couple of draws or a win away along with some decent home form to keep us up. I will be surprised if we can't grind out the required points away from home at some point.

[MACCA]

With a very difficult fixture coming up which we can all but write off, we then have the dreaded four away games and no home game until april.

Our 10 point margin could be all but clawed back, particularly given that these away games are at Hull, Sunderland where we have a terrible record and Swansea where its equally poor..... Lose them and we will be in the more with none of the sides around us to come at fortress turf moor. It then becomes very much out of our hands. I think Seans naivety both from a tactical and a decision making point of view is going to cost us dear.

Three things stand out for me -

1) our approach away from home. Its so different from at home. Its negative and invites pressure. We lack confidence and teams thrive on this. Its still the same game on the same pitch with the same players. So its inexcusable to only have one point away in January

2) his decision to field full strength sides in the cup. We have seen with injuries to defour and marney that with the intensity in which we play this has and will cost us. The cup isnt and shouldnt be the priority. So players who have struggled for consistent fitness shouldnt feature. By that i mean marney and defour. With Bartons pending ban we face the very real possiblilty of starting with a cm two of westwood who doesnt know the system and framework and anyone of arfield or tarkowski. Loaning out oneill has amplified this

3 - Transfers. We were after Brady for a long time. We knew we needed him. We identified him last year. So why wait until the last minute. Had he been integrated when we bought Barton he would have started at watford and been Dyche fit. Instead hes had another month at left back in the championship.

I like Dyche he has been great for us. But his naivety will be the reason we go down. Either way at the end of the season I think a fresh approach is needed. Lets shake hands, thank each other for the memories and both move on to better things that suit us both. We dont want Dyche memories to be like Arsenal with Wenger or worse us with Coyle. He would be a fantastic fit for Villa or a club like that trying to get back up. Hes used to two games a week. He likes that. We need a more progressive forward thinking manager like Silva. Someone who can change our style when we need and tap into european markets and push from where we are to where we really could be.

Are these the results of not having a Costa in the morning, turning up for work early, breaking your coca cola e-cig, losing your nandos card and not being able to afford a bottle of Prosecco?

If so I forgive you all. Keep doing it, the world will go mad with out it.

I feel like I mourning the death of a relative, bfccrazy is a normal one.
This must be a wind up?

[WestMidsClaret]

Congratulations, this place is now claretsmad!

[Spijed]

1 goal from open play away from home this season paints its own picture, home form is incredible but we're running out of winnable home games.

Is the form of Hull City any better away from home than ours in recent months?

When Phelan was in charge they had that fantastic start to the season where they beat Swansea away & drew with us, along with beating Leicester (at home). After that it collapsed. They've scored less than us in that period, only 3 away goals to our 5 yet they are being seen as a team going places.

Their draw against Man U. was almost identical to ours. Their goalkeeper made a fantastic save to keep them in it and their breakaway when they hit the post near the end (I think it was) was purely down to Man U. throwing everyone forward - similar to when Gray had a 1 v 1 against Luke Shaw.

As for home games, we've had chances in every game we've played - do people really think we'll only get 1-2 points from six games when we've won 7 out of our last 8 matches? If those were easier games than those to come then how have only Spurs & Chelsea got better home records than us?

[Sidney1st]

1 goal from open play away from home this season paints its own picture, home form is incredible but we're running out of winnable home games.

Could be worse, we could be Leicester who've scored NO league goals this calender year.

[KRBFC]

Is the form of Hull City any better away from home than ours in recent months?

When Phelan was in charge they had that fantastic start to the season where they beat Swansea away & drew with us, along with beating Leicester (at home). After that it collapsed. They've scored less than us in that period, only 3 away goals to our 5 yet they are being seen as a team going places.

Their draw against Man U. was almost identical to ours. Their goalkeeper made a fantastic save to keep them in it and their breakaway when they hit the post near the end (I think it was) was purely down to Man U. throwing everyone forward - similar to when Gray had a 1 v 1 against Luke Shaw.

As for home games, we've had chances in every game we've played - do people really think we'll only get 1-2 points from six games when we've won 7 out of our last 8 matches? If those were easier games than those to come then how have only Spurs & Chelsea got better home records than us?

I don't give a toss about Hull.
The next two home games are what I'm looking at (after a topic on here about the next 5) and we'll struggle for points against Chelsea and Spurs IMO.
People on here can try and pretend we're any good away from home by saying ''well look at XXXXX teams away form'' but the facts remain, ''1 goal from open play all season'' ''1 lucky draw against 10 men'' and a bunch of hammerings and 1 solitary point.

[Sidney1st]

I don't give a toss about Hull.
The next two home games are what I'm looking at (after a topic on here about the next 5) and we'll struggle for points against Chelsea and Spurs IMO.
People on here can try and pretend we're any good away from home by saying ''well look at XXXXX teams away form'' but the facts remain, ''1 goal from open play all season'' ''1 lucky draw against 10 men'' and a bunch of hammerings and 1 solitary point.

You're correct of course, but what other teams are doing is relevant, because we could realistically go all season without winning away from home and still stay up because the other teams are not good enough both home and away.

[KRBFC]

You're correct of course, but what other teams are doing is relevant, because we could realistically go all season without winning away from home and still stay up because the other teams are not good enough both home and away.

I haven't said we will be relegated on this topic, I stated our home form is incredible and our away form is awful.

[Tall Paul]

I don't give a toss about Hull.
The next two home games are what I'm looking at (after a topic on here about the next 5) and we'll struggle for points against Chelsea and Spurs IMO.
People on here can try and pretend we're any good away from home by saying ''well look at XXXXX teams away form'' but the facts remain, ''1 goal from open play all season'' ''1 lucky draw against 10 men'' and a bunch of hammerings and 1 solitary point.

The last time we were hammered away from home was at WBA in November.

[KRBFC]

The last time we were hammered away from home was at WBA in November.

and? what's your point? read again, here's what I said ''a bunch of hammerings'' I didn't say ''a bunch of hammerings since November'' nor does it really matter if we lose 1-0 or 4-0. We have played 2 games against 10 men for long periods and still ultimately lost. Are you trying to argue against me and say we're good away from home or something?

[nonayclaret]

What about the grammar?

'Fraid not! Even the first line has errors!

[Sidney1st]

I haven't said we will be relegated on this topic, I stated our home form is incredible and our away form is awful.

I know you haven't said that, I'm merely saying we could stay up with crap away form, because other teams aren't outstanding either away or home.

You say what the others are up to isn't relevant, but looking at our league position, I'd say it is.

[KRBFC]

You say what the others are up to isn't relevant, but looking at our league position, I'd say it is.

Did I? What a stupid thing for me to say if true, I don't remember saying that though.

[Sidney1st]

Did I? What a stupid thing for me to say if true, I don't remember saying that though.

Well you said you didn't give a toss about Hull , so maybe relevant is the wrong word.

[FactualFrank]

Our 10 point margin could be all but clawed back

9 points.

[Tall Paul]

and? what's your point? read again, here's what I said ''a bunch of hammerings'' I didn't say ''a bunch of hammerings since November'' nor does it really matter if we lose 1-0 or 4-0. We have played 2 games against 10 men for long periods and still ultimately lost. Are you trying to argue against me and say we're good away from home or something?

The point is that we're getting better and haven't been anywhere near as bad as you're making out, particularly more recently.

[Rileybobs]

It's without doubt that our away performances have got better alongside our home form - unfortunately we've had a string of very difficult away games in which we couldn't realistically expect anything from, finally culminating in a winnable game against Watford where Hendrick got himself sent off after 5 minutes.

Our performances in general have improved as the season has gone on, both home and away. The mentality has improved away from home and I'd be very surprised if we didn't add some points to our away tally in the next few weeks.

We have 8 away games remaining and realistically only need to win one of them to stay up. I think we'll probably stay up if we don't win one of them.

[bfccrazy]

Decent bait

Would use again :lol;

[MACCA]

Decent bait

Would use again :lol;

Decent knock, but I'd of waited for the century.

Could have got a big hundred if you'd of played it cool like Alistair Cook.

Warm applause never the less as you leave the feild

[Ightenclaret]

But we are going to win on Sunday...2-1

[lucs86]

1 - a result away looks like it's coming, we've played better more recently against some strong teams (Watford aside but you can't account for a 6th minute red card). It looks like some away points will come.
2 - not convinced it's an issue, unless you know that we have physios and doctors whose advice is being ignored. Injuries happen, especially to players who have a recent history of injuries. We've not had that many injuries since that glut of cruciates a while back. I don't think you can say Dyche is naive in this way.
3 - it's frustrating but it's not our fault and it's not unique to us. I reckon one of the only ways we'd have got someone like Brady at the beginning of the window would have been to add another couple of million to the asking price, even then no guarantees. I'm happier with us not going down that road.

Talk about us moving Dyche on is insane. We're by no means there yet, we still need points and those points will still be hard to come by, but he's got us in a fantasic position, far beyond expectations, with what must be the smallest wage budget in the league. When he goes we've got a massive, massive problem.

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Decent bait

Would use again :lol;

I think it just highlights you being an attention seeking twunt tbh

[Braindead]

Decent bait

Would use again :lol;

Ahh, the old ' I was only fishing and you all bought it' excuse for a stupid OP.

Silly us

[lakesclaret]

I've read some garbage on here,some hysterical knee jerk reactions and the rantings of mental patients,but the OP really has surpassed anything on this board.

While were all frustrated with our away form,lets not forget how poor we started the season away and hows it's improved hugely from the West Ham game onwards and a cracking display against Watford with 10 men. We're actually now playing our closest rivals and genuinely expect us to pick up a few points.

As for "playing a full strength side in the cup" yes we did even with 7 changes! this just shows how far we've come to be able to put out such a good side that was pretty seamless imo.

As for "players getting fed up wih Dyche" . While i appreciate there's always niggles in any squad to think that a team thats punching well above it's weight all season in the prem and heading towards an facup quarter final,this sounds like utter bullsh1t.

[bfccrazy]

Ahh, the old ' I was only fishing and you all bought it' excuse for a stupid OP.

Silly us

Dont be too hard on yourselves.

[Sidney1st]

Dont be too hard on yourselves.

We aren't, I believe I labelled you insane or you were fishing fairly early on.

As it turns out it generated some interesting comments from people who were thinking similar to you.

[KRBFC]

The point is that we're getting better and haven't been anywhere near as bad as you're making out, particularly more recently.

I stated facts though, I said I believe we have improved but we have also played 2 recent away games against 10 men for large parts. 1 goal from open play away from home all season and just 1 point. It's certainly worrying form heading into a run of 5 games where 3 are away and the 2 home games are as tough as they possibly could be. I believe we can nick a win from one of the 3 away games, but realistically are we going to? maybe I'm worrying but we'll soon see. No doubt we will now beat Chelsea 3-0.