Coke heads

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:49 pm

Back in the day we used to do The Inn at Whitewell on as much weed as we could stand, having parked up on the hill above to walk down. Fantastic. I bet all the country set were on heroin so they didn't notice us.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:01 pm

Its the generation of instant gratification. People cant survuve without being immediately approved of or without access to the latest gossip. People satisfy that instant gratification by taking things to be socially accepted either through taking it or having big gonads from taking it.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:05 pm

I think that lust for instant gratification is a counterpoint to the world the media both promises and denies, so that the more chronic the situation becomes, for example, drowning in life and wanting the instant gratification of immediate rescue.

Garnerssoap · Post by **Garnerssoap** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:19 pm

Birthdays and special occasions I'm all for it - only the good stuff mind

Ightenclaret · Post by **Ightenclaret** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:29 pm

Do you ever get the feeling that you are missing out?

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:33 pm

Never done illegal drugs and never will as I don't see the point. Occasional alcohol abuse ticks the box for me.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:37 pm

Ightenclaret wrote:Do you ever get the feeling that you are missing out?

Never. Quite the opposite.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:40 pm

Ightenclaret wrote:Do you ever get the feeling that you are missing out?

Nope, not even a little bit.
I've seen the state a fair number of friends get into and I know some who've been to rehab yet still felt the need to have the occasional line.

Never done recreational drugs, never smoked and now I've got my toddler daughter I rarely drink.
My teenage boys have only ever seen me drink a couple of times and they've never seen me smashed.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:52 pm

Ightenclaret wrote:Do you ever get the feeling that you are missing out?

Being minus a couple of hundred quid every weekend. Being paranoid as sh1t every sunday/Monday even Tuesday (depends if/when you stop). And eventually all the mates that you used to have a laugh with , swerving yet another , in ya face Saturday night lecture, from you and your knew, swaggering friends?

No.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:09 pm

I've never had or will have recreational drugs but each to their own. It's their life they can do what they want. But if you do, please, please stop acting like you've just achieved something wonderful. You've snorted coke. Not climbed everest in your flip flops.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:54 am

starting_11 wrote:You mean Charlie?

although i'm undoubtedly worth snorting i'm a long way to travel ..

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:44 am

Pstotto wrote:We're all in the goo of the culture glue, where everyone is connected to the psychosis of media, pulsating from the i-phone in the back pocket, so no longer village pub, but world centre for philosophy, war strategy, sex and death and religion and footy and all trying to spin the wheel of the hype and trying to jump on.

Are you Chuck Palahniuk?

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:56 am

I took co-codamol yesterday and was off my ******* rocker for a couple of hours!
Seriously!

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:59 am

You're not supposed to snort it though.

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:00 am

Wondered where i went wrong!

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:14 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:although i'm undoubtedly worth snorting i'm a long way to travel ..

"I don't know Leslie. I've never met the lad"

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:14 am

I think this sort of thing is usually a phase that people gradually grow out of, more often than not when they start going steady with a girl

. My "raving" days ended 4-5 years ago but I still partake occasionally, dependent on the situation (probably wouldn't do it in a quiet pub for example). What I don't get though is the bitterness about it from some people, if it's not your scene then fair enough but if people want to crack on then as long as they're not ruining their lives I don't see what the issue is. Also, the delight another poster was taking further up the thread about addicts dying due to contaminated drugs was nothing short of pathetic, what a poor outlook on life they must have.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:24 am

Correct Sammy Boy. A little understanding goes a long way. People equate a pill or a line a few times a year in your 20s with dying with a needle in your arm in a bedsit.

I'd say of my 'social group' back then maybe all but a couple dabbled at some point, none developed an addiction to anything and as far as I know, none of us do anything these days. It's all camping and kids stuff now. I don't regret it at all, it was bloody brilliant at times.

What I would say, is it used to be more of a secret club for those in the know. And I can understand how the obnoxious, sweaty chavs boasting of their use of poor quality drugs is hugely irritating.

So overall, keep your gob shut about it, quit when you're young and only get the good stuff. Keep safe kids.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:36 am

SammyBoy wrote:Also, the delight another poster was taking further up the thread about addicts dying due to contaminated drugs was nothing short of pathetic, what a poor outlook on life they must have.

Where was my delight?

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:37 am

"So overall, keep your gob shut about it, quit when you're young and only get the good stuff. Keep safe kids."

Better still, don't ever start and you won't ever have to stop or run the risk of being addicted. Keep safe kids and abstain.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:43 am

SammyBoy wrote: My "raving" days ended 4-5 years ago but I still partake occasionally, dependent on the situation (probably wouldn't do it in a quiet pub for example).

I went to raves for about 6-7 years (Helterskelter, Slammin Vinyl, United Dance etc), late 90's, early 00's and not once did I do anything.
I still had a good time without the need to take something.

I've spotted myself on youtube a couple of times at the Milton Keynes events held at Sanctury/Bowlers arenas

My mate likes to re-post a picture of me and another lad with MC Whizzkid on our backs after he'd photobombed us.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:59 am

The stuff people take nowadays is mental. And theyre all in denial. Horse tranquilisers. Fertiliser. Why? Whats so boring about normal life you need this stuff?

Yes i know I drink alcohol and thatsbthe argument all druggies use.

These drugs do play with peoples minds and lives. Do affect them short and long term. But people boast about taking them. As stupid as it is I can understand a 15 year old kid bragging to his mates about what he takes to try and impress. But seem of these people are 30, 40 even 50!

And yes I understand addiction and how it works.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:43 am

Sidney1st wrote:Where was my delight?

"No ones in a rush to deal with the problem, its probably just best to hope there's a bad batch kicking around like there was with Heroin in Glasgow a couple of years ago, that killed a few junkies off."

Perhaps delight was the wrong word, maybe 'hope' would be more appropriate, either way it sounded a little off to me.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:46 am

I despise cocaine dealers. Always sticking their business into other people's noses.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:48 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:The stuff people take nowadays is mental. And theyre all in denial. Horse tranquilisers. Fertiliser. Why? Whats so boring about normal life you need this stuff?

Yes i know I drink alcohol and thatsbthe argument all druggies use.

These drugs do play with peoples minds and lives. Do affect them short and long term. But people boast about taking them. As stupid as it is I can understand a 15 year old kid bragging to his mates about what he takes to try and impress. But seem of these people are 30, 40 even 50!

And yes I understand addiction and how it works.

It looks like you have strong opinions on this subject, which could have been formed by personal experience so I won't be quick to judge, you're entitled to think that. However, I think that if alcohol had never been discovered and was invented now, a substance which is abused to the extent that people lose the ability to walk and talk, can induce vomiting (as well as lengthy comedowns/hangovers) and causes some people to start fighting and hospitalize others, as well as the potential for addiction/liver damage that it carries then it'd probably be class A and carry a length jail term for people supplying. As it happens it's legal and the production is regulated so consumers are reassured their drink isn't contaminated - which to me only suggests a similar approach is necessary for other stimulants/depressants that the public wish to indulge in. I'd also argue you could take your 'what's so wrong with normal life' angle and apply it exactly the same to alcohol consumption? Why do it? Why anything?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:50 am

SammyBoy wrote:"No ones in a rush to deal with the problem, its probably just best to hope there's a bad batch kicking around like there was with Heroin in Glasgow a couple of years ago, that killed a few junkies off."

Perhaps delight was the wrong word, maybe 'hope' would be more appropriate, either way it sounded a little off to me.

Probably is a little off, but I've no sympathy for junkies that take a bad batch, never have and never will.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:52 am

SammyBoy wrote: As it happens it's legal and the production is regulated so consumers are reassured their drink isn't contaminated - which to me only suggests a similar approach is necessary for other stimulants/depressants that the public wish to indulge in.

If you gave pure cocaine to the muppets running around sniffing the mixed crap, they'd probably end up dead quite quickly if they took pure stuff in the same quantity.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:53 am

Sidney1st wrote:If you gave pure cocaine to the muppets running around sniffing the mixed crap, they'd probably end up dead quite quickly if they took pure stuff in the same quantity.

Surely the same applies to pure alcohol, I'm confident corporations could find a non-harmful product to dilute it with if they so wished.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:56 am

SammyBoy wrote:Surely the same applies to pure alcohol, I'm confident corporations could find a non-harmful product to dilute it with if they so wished.

They probably could, but how many drug users would happily wander into Tescos to buy their stuff?

At a guess a lot do it because it's illegal/dodgy to do it, that's where part of the initial buzz is even before you've taken it.

Cannabis smokers bang on about legalizing it all the time, but if it was they'd still buy it from some other dealer due to the variants of 'cheese' available.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:57 am

Sidney1st wrote:They probably could, but how many drug users would happily wander into Tescos to buy their stuff?

At a guess a lot do it because it's illegal/dodgy to do it, that's where part of the initial buzz is even before you've taken it.

Cannabis smokers bang on about legalizing it all the time, but if it was they'd still buy it from some other dealer due to the variants of 'cheese' available.

That's all speculation I guess, I know when I was into it years ago actually getting hold of the stuff was probably the most annoying part about it. Dealers don't tend to be reliable/punctual, I think I'd have happily popped down the off-license for it. If you look at Colorado where they've legalised weed I think business is booming as well.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:01 am

SammyBoy wrote:That's all speculation I guess, I know when I was into it years ago actually getting hold of the stuff was probably the most annoying part about it. Dealers don't tend to be reliable/punctual, I think I'd have happily popped down the off-license for it. If you look at Colorado where they've legalised weed I think business is booming as well.

Dealers are still unreliable and when the weather changes there are cannabis shortages around where I live

In all fairness shops sell enough drugs paraphanalia, bongs & grinders etc, that they might aswell sell weed.

Culvert_for_one · Post by **Culvert_for_one** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:04 am

Only thing I have got from this is cricket field clarets is definitely the kill joy who grasses to the landlord when three people occupy a cubicle

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:06 am

Culvert_for_one wrote:Only thing I have got from this is cricket field clarets is definitely the kill joy who grasses to the landlord when three people occupy a cubicle

Better keep him away from one of our former players then, he swung for the last person who caught him in a cubicle, allegedly.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:06 am

Culvert_for_one_line?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:23 am

Interesting to note that there's never been any medical evidence to show that either cannabis, cocaine or heroin are more dangerous than alcohol.

Yet people talk about class A drugs as being evil and destroying lives yet never apply the same argument to drink.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:27 am

Sidney1st wrote:Better keep him away from one of our former players then, he swung for the last person who caught him in a cubicle, allegedly.

We've another player who was powdering his nose earlier this season with some lads I know too.....

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:33 am

Spijed wrote:Interesting to note that there's never been any medical evidence to show that either cannabis, cocaine or heroin are more dangerous than alcohol.

Yet people talk about class A drugs as being evil and destroying lives yet never apply the same argument to drink.

I think Gazza and George Best are proof of drinking too much being bad for you.

Same when you see a story about someone in their 20's looking a bit yellow due to their liver giving up after to much drinking.

Junkies- don't really need any medical evidence to see it's an issue, look at the state of them.

Cannabis users - those who've been using it for years won't admit it, but they all suffer with some form of paranoia, varying from mild to the top level tin foil hat stage.

Cocaine - I suppose they just need to wait for their septum to fall off before they'll accept it's a problem, but having a runny nose and sounding like you've got a permanent cold all the time can't be fun.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:36 am

Sidney1st wrote:I think Gazza and George Best are proof of drinking too much being bad for you.

Same when you see a story about someone in their 20's looking a bit yellow due to their liver giving up after to much drinking.

Junkies- don't really need any medical evidence to see it's an issue, look at the state of them.

Cannabis users - those who've been using it for years won't admit it, but they all suffer with some form of paranoia, varying from mild to the top level tin foil hat stage.

Cocaine - I suppose they just need to wait for their septum to fall off before they'll accept it's a problem, but having a runny nose and sounding like you've got a permanent cold all the time can't be fun.

Anything that generally makes you feel good which is not done in moderation is bad for you in some way.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:39 am

When it comes to alcohol and the word 'moderation' I wonder how many people actually know what it means?

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:40 am

Sidney1st wrote:I think Gazza and George Best are proof of drinking too much being bad for you.

Same when you see a story about someone in their 20's looking a bit yellow due to their liver giving up after to much drinking.

Junkies- don't really need any medical evidence to see it's an issue, look at the state of them.

Cannabis users - those who've been using it for years won't admit it, but they all suffer with some form of paranoia, varying from mild to the top level tin foil hat stage.

Cocaine - I suppose they just need to wait for their septum to fall off before they'll accept it's a problem, but having a runny nose and sounding like you've got a permanent cold all the time can't be fun.

This is exactly the point, if you abuse anything then it's going to have negative effects, even excess sugar causes major health issues. I just find it a bit rich when people who use alcohol moderately get on their high horse about others recreationally using other substances.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:43 am

bfccrazy wrote:We've another player who was powdering his nose earlier this season with some lads I know too.....

No when he said "I'm taking Coke and Charlie all pre-season in Ibiza with the boys."

He meant Giles and Austin, you've just got the wrong end of the stick.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:45 am

MACCA wrote:No when he said "I'm taking Coke and Charlie all pre-season in Ibiza with the boys."

He meant Giles and Austin, you've just got the wrong end of the stick.

The fact he was in a club with his mate sniffing coke with mates of mine probably means he wasn't haha.

A comedown could explain some of his performances though haha.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:45 am

WestMidsClaret wrote:I took co-codamol yesterday and was off my ******* rocker for a couple of hours!
Seriously!

I once took that stuff, never again!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:52 am

Sidney1st wrote:Same when you see a story about someone in their 20's looking a bit yellow due to their liver giving up after to much drinking.

That's down to your liver being unable to process bilirubin properly.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:56 am

bfccrazy wrote:

The fact he was in a club with his mate sniffing coke with mates of mine probably means he wasn't haha.

A comedown could explain some of his performances though haha.

I'm not sure and slightly OT, but is it classed as performance enhancing?

I know Livermore and Berahino are said to have been suspended from playing but the latter wasn't publicly outed.

Does anyone know what sort of test the do for footballers?
Blood, urine or hair?
And how long does it takes to get out of the system?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:58 am

Nothing wrong with a bit of blow!

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:59 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Nothing wrong with a bit of blow!

I wish Arfield had a bit of speed now and again too.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:06 pm

SammyBoy wrote:This is exactly the point, if you abuse anything then it's going to have negative effects, even excess sugar causes major health issues. I just find it a bit rich when people who use alcohol moderately get on their high horse about others recreationally using other substances.

The former is legal, the latter is not. Not that I was getting on my high horse, with the opening post, about people using cocaine (or other drugs) if it's in the right setting. Each to their own.

What does **** me off and I don't get, is the need to be taking it at a pub in a village or town where there are a wide range of ages from children to pensioners.

Save it for an appropriate setting, a rave / club in my day but don't **** on your own doorstep and bring along all the scrotums that places attract when cocaine usage becomes commonplace. Even the normally decent people hoovering it up their snouts seem to turn into some cock sure arrogant feckers.

There's a time and a place.

Zugunruhe · Post by **Zugunruhe** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:17 pm

The problem with coke is that it makes dull people even duller. If you're going to do coke - please stay in with your equally dull coke mates.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:17 pm

DCWat wrote:The former is legal, the latter is not. Not that I was getting on my high horse, with the opening post, about people using cocaine (or other drugs) if it's in the right setting. Each to their own.

What does **** me off and I don't get, is the need to be taking it at a pub in a village or town where there are a wide range of ages from children to pensioners.

Save it for an appropriate setting, a rave / club in my day but don't **** on your own doorstep and bring along all the scrotums that places attract when cocaine usage becomes commonplace. Even the normally decent people hoovering it up their snouts seem to turn into some cock sure arrogant feckers.

There's a time and a place.

I take your point about the legality issue but that's a whole other debate, I touched on it in a previous post but it's a never ending discussion. I wasn't having a dig at you specifically either, I agree coke seems more prevalent nowadays but I think it will probably calm down at some point, wasn't ecstasy massive in the early 90s? (before my time).