where do atheists go when they die ?

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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by ClaretEngineer » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:23 am

Ahh good old science. Books full of theory underpinned by facts.

Humans are always quick to brand each other or start up a hate.

I just try and be a good person and treat others as I would wish to be treated. Sometimes there are lapses (Not very often - Engineer you know :lol: ) and I'm punished in the present for my actions. No need to wait (and worry) for 60 years to await sentence!
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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by Inchy » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:50 am

If there is a god I would punch him in the ******** for giving kids cancer
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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by Inchy » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:56 am

Also why do people tend to believe in 1 God, usually linked to where they are from.

I was brought up Catholic but realised as a teenager that there were around 2000 other Gods that people believed in. What made mine so special? Nothing. It was just because I was brought up in a family with Irish ancestry.

Believing in a God linked to organised religion seems ridiculous to me because its luck of the draw which one you get
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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by Dom » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:08 pm

No issue with people who believe in a god, some people's lives have been turned around because of a new found belief in god. Religion gives them a purpose and acts as a morality guide, fine with me.

The issue I have with religion is that it isn't properly separated from the state. Northern Ireland doesn't allow abortion, because the people in charge are either mental Protestants or Catholics, their religious ideology prevents a woman from making choices in her own life. It's absurd.
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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by BennyD » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:14 pm

Inchy wrote:If there is a god I would punch him in the ******** for giving kids cancer
Don't worry mate, he's got that coming from me and my wife. That is if my (late) son hasn't already ripped them off.

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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by Pstotto » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:39 pm

How can one reconcile Divinity and the obviousness of it, with God being a pernicious miserable joy denier and general t**t? I don't know, but I have a visual interest in cornering the b*stard in an image so that we can have a closer look:
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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by Clareting » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:05 pm

Here's 20 hours worth of Jordan Peterson discussing his life's work, Maps of Meaning. Well worth a listen if you've got the time.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... pQlHyR4k5h" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here is part 1 and 2 of Sam Harris' discussion with Jordan Peterson. Part 1 hit a brick wall, so they tried again with concessions on both sides, pushing the conversation forward.

part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gdpyzwOOYY&t=2495s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8TDbXO6dkk&t=1s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by PenrithClaret » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:09 pm

Where do Atheists go when they die? A. I'm sure they divn't care like and B. Isn't it an oxymoron? Atheists by default divn't give a **** like..

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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by Pstotto » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:11 pm

Clareting don't be so lazy, disseminate for us. 2 hours long those lectures and while they may be interesting it's asking a lot of an audience. Is there some nougat of information in that lot worth sharing? Nougats please.

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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by Autobahn » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:51 pm

Pstotto wrote:Clareting don't be so lazy, disseminate for us. 2 hours long those lectures and while they may be interesting it's asking a lot of an audience. Is there some nougat of information in that lot worth sharing? Nougats please.
Hi Pstotto, apologies for being vague. As luck would have it, there's a channel that's currently taking snippets of Peterson's talks and uploading them, endorsed by the man himself. The titles are self explanatory, talks about the importance of archetypes within history, faith, literature etc, the horrors of postmodernism, freedom of speech and the meanings of faith. It's difficult to describe him, quite possibly just more deception, delusion, who knows...Tough to talk about faith, but this man is the only person to describe faith to me in a palatable way, linking it with what Jung and Nietzsche have said and how the 20th century developed and where we are now. He's right in the thick of it and his is an ever changing story in real time as regards to bill c16 in Canada, whilst his message has remained constant and worked upon.

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCo9QgwWCNEhDxL1gH-jxa8Q" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by Pstotto » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:52 pm

The only persons of these types who doesn't seem to be a bullshit merchant and out for himself is Terence McKenna, sadly now diseased and Alan Watts. What I like about such folk is that they're not trying to screw the audience according to the weight and measure of an accepted faith, trying to make one feel indebted and forever in debt to someone religious. I'll click on the link and have a look.

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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by NRC » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:22 am

Currently sitting in a coffee shop. Twenty five people in there. Twenty are Muslims. Not one has attacked me or called me infidel. The manager, a Muslim, calls me "dude."

What I know is this. Don't follows Muslims to find Islam, follow them to find coffee - they know where the good stuff is alright!

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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by Rowls » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:55 am

NRC wrote:Currently sitting in a coffee shop. Twenty five people in there. Twenty are Muslims. Not one has attacked me or called me infidel. The manager, a Muslim, calls me "dude."
What I know is this. Don't follows Muslims to find Islam, follow them to find coffee - they know where the good stuff is alright!
It probably depends where you follow your Muslims though. The chances of following one and ending up in a coffee shop are perhaps higher in North America than in, say, Mosul or Jakarta or Mecca.

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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by ablueclaret » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:50 pm

The trouble with atheists is they are so mean spirited.

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Re: where do atheists go when they die ?

Post by boiledclaret » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:03 pm

Atheism is perfect if you're overworked and constantly moaning for a good lie in.

You'll get a cracking one eventually.

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