General Election 2017 Mega Thread

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:08 pm

Sounds like its a complete wipeout in London for the Conservatives.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:09 pm

Spijed wrote:SNP down to 34 - have Labour taken loads of seats in Scotland?

I hope so, anyone but the nasty natz

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:10 pm

Wow not expecting that! Bet she's not feeling so strong and stable at the minute!

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:15 pm

cutsy123 wrote:10 it is

Tenner it is.agreed.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:16 pm

Amber Rudd's in trouble in Hastings

I bet the modellers at YouGov are getting ready to feel quite smug right now.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:16 pm

Rumour is that Amber Rudd could be in trouble in her Hastings seat.

PutTheWheelieBinsOut · Post by **PutTheWheelieBinsOut** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:16 pm

Wow if the exit poll is correct, I think we would soon have our third prime minister within 12 months.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:17 pm

That's a shame!

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:22 pm

I voted Tory but after a campaign as poor and presumptuous as the Conservatives and May have run, its little more than they deserve.

Perhaps the shakeup that politics and parties need.

50 shades of Grey · Post by **50 shades of Grey** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:23 pm

Rockys favourite (only) saying ?

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:27 pm

SNP down 22 if correct.

Alex Salmond and Angus Robertsons seats both at risk.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:27 pm

If the tories had been up against a more credible opposition minus Abbott and Corbyn they would have been routed if these exit polls are correct.

Theresa May ran a terrible campaign, as many posters on here had been claiming for the past few weeks, and that opinion remains correct even if she staggers over the line in first place.

Having claimed that she wanted a "strong mandate" with which to enter Brexit negotiations she may have to go to Brussels looking weaker than the pound.

She treated the pensioner vote with contempt (scrapping the triple lock and winter fuel allowance) and having been treated like turkeys they may have decided not to vote for Christmas.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:28 pm

conyoviejo wrote:You in prison or the Luny Bin .

Neither. He's only 9

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:30 pm

May won't be going to Brussels if the polls are correct

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:30 pm

and the pound falls off a cliff, and will fall further tomorrow if exit poll correct

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/201 ... -election/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:31 pm

This might keep the UK together. I was expecting that if there was a massive majority for the Tories then it would grease the skids for Scotland to vote to Leave the UK given how sick they are of Tory rule despite them always voting against it. It was one of the major reasons for voting Yes in '14 and if it was shown that the UK was going even further to the right when Scotland is very much to the left then it'd have been really tough to convince Scots to stick with the UK given how opposed they are to the ideas of the rest of the country.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:31 pm

Oh well it should boost exports.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:32 pm

Spijed wrote:Sounds like its a complete wipeout in London for the Conservatives.

I reported last week that that was the prediction in the London papers

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:33 pm

Goalposts wrote:and the pound falls off a cliff, and will fall further tomorrow if exit poll correct

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/201 ... -election/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pound was bound to drop most with prospect of a hung Parliament. (It's not purely down to anti-Labour sentiment)

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:34 pm

Can we all agree now that this means that given the choice of a hard or soft brexit the UK broadly supports the softer brexit?

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:34 pm

'Amber Rudd's in trouble in Hastings'

Can't do with her. Alistair Campbell called her a 'Maybot', made me laugh.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:37 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Pound was bound to drop most with prospect of a hung Parliament. (It's not purely down to anti-Labour sentiment)

never said it was anti labour.....this is without doubt the worst result that could happen, one party needed a clear majority to manage brexit and security issues... if correct another election is likely next year if not before and undoubtedly with a new tory leader,,,

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:38 pm

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Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:39 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Pound was bound to drop most with prospect of a hung Parliament. (It's not purely down to anti-Labour sentiment)

It's a small wall compared to the cliff it fell off last year, from which it didn't recover.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:41 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Can we all agree now that this means that given the choice of a hard or soft brexit the UK broadly supports the softer brexit?

No, it just means people are in favour of 4 extra bank holidays per year and free everything

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:42 pm

Pound will bounce back. Political uncertainty always moves the pound.

I still think that the poll is too good to be true and it'll be a Tory majority by 15. Not the 50 I thought earlier. Theresa May have committed political suicide.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:43 pm

Damo wrote:No, it just means people are in favour of 4 extra bank holidays per year and free everything

Free what? I asked Moffitt this same question and all he could come up with beyond tuition fees was childcare and hospital parking.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:44 pm

Damo wrote:No, it just means people are in favour of 4 extra bank holidays per year and free everything

I get free nothing and pay a lot into the system. It's a rejection of fear politics, with how Brexit campaign was run it was obvious fear politics is being rejected. Theresa May took the electorate for granted and is reaping what she has sown.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:45 pm

Dom wrote:Pound will bounce back. Political uncertainty always moves the pound.

I still think that the poll is too good to be true and it'll be a Tory majority by 15. Not the 50 I thought earlier. Theresa May have committed political suicide.

You might be right. I still wouldn't be too surprised if they scratch out a majority.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:45 pm

kentonclaret wrote:If the tories had been up against a more credible opposition minus Abbott and Corbyn they would have been routed if these exit polls are correct.

Theresa May ran a terrible campaign, as many posters on here had been claiming for the past few weeks, and that opinion remains correct even if she staggers over the line in first place.

Having claimed that she wanted a "strong mandate" with which to enter Brexit negotiations she may have to go to Brussels looking weaker than the pound.

She treated the pensioner vote with contempt (scrapping the triple lock and winter fuel allowance) and having been treated like turkeys they may have decided not to vote for Christmas.

I disagree with this. I'm 29 and I have been amazed by the amount of people I know who are voting for the first time because of JC. I'm not his biggest fan but IMO this is down to him being there

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:45 pm

Theresa May couldn't even handle the Stable - looks like the horse may have bolted.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:45 pm

Through a wheat field?

ClaretAndLube · Post by **ClaretAndLube** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:45 pm

Off on holiday to Greece next week. Wish I'd bought my euros earlier

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:47 pm

Jesus. There might be hope for this country yet.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:49 pm

Theresa May is 1.59 on Betfair to be the PM when the new government is formed.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:49 pm

Goalposts wrote: one party needed a clear majority to manage brexit and security issues...

Could you explain why?
It always seemed sensible to have cross party non-partisan approach to Brexit rather than allowing one party to represent the country.
You do accept do you that the brexit vote was won with the votes of people from all parties? It wasn't just Tories who voted to leave.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:50 pm

How much does the double pay with SD taking over at Palace?

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:50 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:You might be right. I still wouldn't be too surprised if they scratch out a majority.

I couldn't give this post a like, but I definitely agree.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:52 pm

One party needed a clear mandate for Brexit negotiations because that is what Theresa May told everybody when calling the election.

If she fails to get that mandate more egg on her face than in an SD omelette.

Scratching out a majority when expected to win by 100 plus seats is not a strong mandate.

accy sue · Post by **accy sue** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:53 pm

'If the tories had been up against a more credible opposition minus Abbott and Corbyn they would have been routed if these exit polls are correct.'

If the Tories had been up against any opposition except Corbyn there would have been a) a Tory landslide OR b) no election

PS not sure if I know how to do this quote thing! No I didn't!

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:57 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Could you explain why?
It always seemed sensible to have cross party non-partisan approach to Brexit rather than allowing one party to represent the country.
You do accept do you that the brexit vote was won with the votes of people from all parties? It wasn't just Tories who voted to leave.

absolutely people voted for brexit from all parties..however i feel that in negotition one party with a definitive view / either labour or tory is the better option...i have heard nothing this year from any party that suggests a non partizan approach is possible...

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:57 pm

accy sue wrote:'If the tories had been up against a more credible opposition minus Abbott and Corbyn they would have been routed if these exit polls are correct.'

If the Tories had been up against any opposition except Corbyn there would have been a) a Tory landslide OR b) no election

PS not sure if I know how to do this quote thing! No I didn't!

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Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:58 pm

The pound slides after absolutely nothing happens.

What a load of sh1te.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:01 pm

Newcastle first up.

Labour hold.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:03 pm

Wow she's walked Newcastle, double everyone else's combined vote.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:03 pm

First result in 67% turnout. 15,000 majority for Labour. No surprise there though at Newcastle central. Would like to see how it compared to the model.

Labour 65% of the vote, tories 25%

taio · Post by **taio** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:05 pm

Dom wrote:First result in 67% turnout. 15,000 majority for Labour. No surprise there though at Newcastle central. Would like to see how it compared to the model.

Labour 65% of the vote, tories 25%

Exit poll predicted 7% swing to Labour; actual 2%.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:05 pm

Underperformed the exit poll in Newcastle Central. There are "buts" though.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:07 pm

Sunderland will be more indicative they say because it was more Leave than remain.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:08 pm

That's another underperfomance for Labour relative to the exit poll.