Scotland v England

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:57 pm

Joe Hart, England's number 1

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:57 pm

Southgate is beaming at the end...

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:57 pm

How shite was Joe Hart ,diabolical positioning for both free kicks .Surely even Southgate can see it's time for Tom to get the nod for the next game.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:58 pm

Harry Kane apart, that is one of the worst England teams I've seen. No class, no technique, no great skill. Southgate is not up to it.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:01 pm

Think a lot on here were slating Tom for his positioning for the Snodgrass free kick at the Turf.Its what goalkeepers do these days relying on the wall to cover the other half of the goal.None of the wall jumped for the first free kick.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:02 pm

Good point all in all, must be very difficult playing in that smell.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:02 pm

A game of two shites!

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:02 pm

Harry Kane says it's a special day for England?

Have I missed something?

SparkyClaret · Post by **SparkyClaret** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:03 pm

We were very lucky not to lose that game. How does Hart not realise that if he stands closer to one post, the person taking the free kick only needs to get it over the wall to score. Did it against Bale in France and did it twice in 10minutes today. Absolutely ridiculous

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:05 pm

To be fair Jake Livermore just started for England in a meaningful game...

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:05 pm

it wasn't even that Sparky, watch his feet, he hardly moves them - he's garbage

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:09 pm

Hart should be binned. He needs to be replaced by either Butland or Heaton.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:11 pm

That's why City got rid.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:12 pm

Hart needs a different hobby as he is no good at this goalkeeping lark, Ablue maybe midfield?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:18 pm

Somehow, despite there only being two goalkeepers on the pitch, Hart wasn't even the worst.

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:20 pm

tim_noone wrote:And I could safely play instead of joe hart!

Looks like we both could have a new career then Tim!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:22 pm

I wonder what the thinking is behind having a squad that includes 4 goalkeepers and just 7 midfielders?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:24 pm

England go through qualifying unbeaten.........then struggle to win when it really matters.

Same old story.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:24 pm

In the Euros, and again today, Hart shows he really does have some serious flaws. Time for change i think, but don't expect it to be Tom, and don't be sure that there is an improvement available.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:30 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Somehow, despite there only being two goalkeepers on the pitch, Hart wasn't even the worst.

I don't know the stats for shots on target but I bet Gordon stopped more?

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:30 pm

Anybody else seen the smoke billowing over Padiham. McTurtle has just had the ceremonial burning of the kilt and sporran.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:32 pm

Looks like I didn't miss much by going out instead of watching the game.

Pieater2 · Post by **Pieater2** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:33 pm

Scotland's better thank england.

Pieater2 · Post by **Pieater2** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:34 pm

Pieater2 · Post by **Pieater2** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:35 pm

And I was born in Lancashire.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:36 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Anybody else seen the smoke billowing over Padiham. McTurtle has just had the ceremonial burning of the kilt and sporran.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:41 pm

Pieater2 wrote:And I was born in Lancashire.

Not that long ago either.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:51 pm

Reminded me of when we played Lincoln England brought down to their level. However when you are on so much money have the best facilities coahes etc you really should have enough to dominate.

Longsidebovril · Post by **Longsidebovril** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:04 pm

Surprised at how little I care any more. Went for a curry with the family instead.

Preferred watching Stokes and Morgan pummel the Aussies this afternoon!

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:09 pm

bfcjg wrote:Reminded me of when we played Lincoln England brought down to their level. However when you are on so much money have the best facilities coahes etc you really should have enough to dominate.

At least Scotland's goals actually went over the line.

Pieater2 · Post by **Pieater2** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:10 pm

50s actually, and uneducated, but people tell me I'm intelligent. But they are only words we use... its not all about football you know.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:13 pm

Joe hart should be driving tractors, he's a farmer not a goalkeeper. He's been rubbish and cost us everything for years.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:14 pm

Pstotto wrote:Joe hart should be driving tractors, he's a farmer not a goalkeeper. He's been rubbish and cost us everything for years.

It's not his fault, it's the FA's.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:16 pm

Diesel wrote:At least Scotland's goals actually went over the line.

Robbed by.. Non league Lincoln..

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:19 pm

Saxoman wrote:Robbed by.. Non league Lincoln..

Yep, a team who could be playing in the league above Rovers this time next year

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:22 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:Yep, a team who could be playing in the league above Rovers this time next year

I'll just let next season under mowbray speak for itself..

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:27 pm

Saxoman wrote:I'll just let next season under mowbray speak for itself..

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:42 pm

Saxoman wrote:I'll just let next season under mowbray speak for itself..

You can now finally get off the dole.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:48 pm

Flatline wrote:You can now finally get off the dole.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:52 pm

Saxoman wrote:

Long term sick?

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:53 pm

Diesel wrote:Long term sick?

No idea.

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:32 pm

To be fair to Hart, both free kicks were well taken and went over the wall with Hart protecting the other side.

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:34 pm

kaptin1 wrote:To be fair to Hart, both free kicks were well taken and went over the wall with Hart protecting the other side.

the first one his position was taking the pyss.

the second free kick was much more worthy of a goal.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:23 pm

yTib wrote:the first one his position was taking the pyss.

the second free kick was much more worthy of a goal.

One problem is that at both free kicks, Hart did a little bounce on his toes as the kick was taken - so when the ball was kicked, he was heading up, and had to wait a split second to come down before he could start to move for the ball. It makes a difference - he ought to be on the floor and ready to go when the kick is taken.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:20 pm

Hart is shite end of!

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:39 pm

I watched the first half 'live' in a pub. Just watching the highlights now and I'm a bit confused - it's the reverse camera angle (i.e. the mirror image of what I saw in the pub). Anybody else notice this, or was my drink spiked?

UTC!

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:40 pm

Joe Hart.....Pep knew.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:00 am

Another point on the way to qualification. No need to over analyse these types of games.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:15 am

england were terrible, an indication of how badly they will be in the competition proper, Scotland deserved to win with those free kicks.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:22 am

FCBurnley wrote:Anybody else seen the smoke billowing over Padiham. McTurtle has just had the ceremonial burning of the kilt and sporran.

How do you know i live in Padiham?