Dyche ------->Palace

Ollyd · Post by **Ollyd** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:17 pm

Two quotes saying the same.

'if it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done quickly' (Macbeth)
'Stop messing about' (K williams)

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:21 pm

Looks like ranieri is off to nantes . Not good for us

claretlegend · Post by **claretlegend** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:23 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Looks like ranieri is off to nantes . Not good for us

Just read the same. Not good at all. Narrows it down further.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:26 pm

If he was going he would have gone by now. Is he really 5th choice, considering how many others have been interviewed for the job, then moved on.
Even IF he had an interest, their obvious lack of enthusiasm would have ****** me off by now.

ClaretAndBlue94 · Post by **ClaretAndBlue94** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:57 pm

Still think there is only a very slim chance SD would go. They will get someone foreign as its 'trendy' to do so at the moment

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:08 pm

Let's just say I'll be very disappointed if he leaves Burnley for Palace after all the messing around and time it's taken.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:08 pm

Firthy wrote:Let's just say I'll be very disappointed if he leaves Burnley for Palace after all the messing around and time it's taken.

Sean Dyche would be unwise to take this particular job. Steve Parish is by all accounts a pretty unsavoury character. The way that he managed to stitch up Tony Pulis to the tune of 4 million pounds should make any future manager take heed.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:14 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:If he was going he would have gone by now. Is he really 5th choice, considering how many others have been interviewed for the job, then moved on.
Even IF he had an interest, their obvious lack of enthusiasm would have ****** me off by now.

He has just returned from holiday this weekend so won't have spoken to Palace yet if he does intend to.

todclaret · Post by **todclaret** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:14 pm

Apparently he is to be interviewed along with other potential managers.
Wonder if there's any genuine mileage in this story.....

http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/sport/ ... ref=twtrec" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:21 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Sean Dyche would be unwise to take this particular job. Steve Parish is by all accounts a pretty unsavoury character. The way that he managed to stitch up Tony Pulis to the tune of 4 million pounds should make any future manager take heed.

Stiched up?!

He asked Parish to pay him a loyalty bonus early so he could "buy land for his children", then walked out the club two days later. Only one unsavoury character as far as I'm concerned.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:32 pm

todclaret wrote:Apparently he is to be interviewed along with other potential managers.
Wonder if there's any genuine mileage in this story.....

http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/sport/ ... ref=twtrec" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That article is almost a week old.

criminalclaret · Post by **criminalclaret** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:38 pm

Doesnt look like he's shying away from his wearing his Burnley colour's given the circumstances. Pic from BFC Twitter account this morning.

Gives me a lot of confidence.

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:54 pm

Latest rumour in the Croydon rags will be Dyche walking to London for interview!

criminalclaret · Post by **criminalclaret** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:02 pm

Hope Dyche is telling Stelling about what a bell jar Paul Merson is.

And that "Tripiér" is in fact from Bury and not the south of France.

HOPE AND GLORY · Post by **HOPE AND GLORY** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:30 pm

Dyche to Hartlepool

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:01 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:Stiched up?!

He asked Parish to pay him a loyalty bonus early so he could "buy land for his children", then walked out the club two days later. Only one unsavoury character as far as gI'm concerned.

The way I heard it was that he was due to receive a 4 million pound bonus for keeping them up. He'd taken 2 before deciding to leave and the rest was withheld. The chairman then sued him to get the money back and won the case with costs included. The team were six points adrift when Pulis took over.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:03 pm

Anyway the odds on Dyche going seem to be getting worse. Oh dear.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:03 pm

Has Dyche just snacked on that dry stone wall?

Grimsdale · Post by **Grimsdale** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:04 pm

Spanish journalist reporting that Mauricio Pellegrino is close to becoming the new Crystal Palace manager after his departure from Alaves.

Odds have started fallling and SkyBet have him as favourite now. Fingers crossed!

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:11 pm

I do hope that you're right.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:21 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Sean Dyche would be unwise to take this particular job. Steve Parish is by all accounts a pretty unsavoury character. The way that he managed to stitch up Tony Pulis to the tune of 4 million pounds should make any future manager take heed.

From what I read I would say it wasn't Parish who stitched up Pulis, rather Pulis who stitched himself up by being a greedy, underhand ****!!

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:25 pm

I think Dark Cloud's version of events is more accurate than dermtdermot's

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:29 pm

Dark Cloud speak with forked tongue.

claretlegend · Post by **claretlegend** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:33 pm

There are now quite a few Spanish Twitter reports saying Palace are set to appoint Pellegrino. Let's hope they're right!

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:33 pm

That's not true dd

Very funny but not true

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:34 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Dark Cloud speak with forked tongue.

I'm sure all the facts weren't ever aired and of course it's one man's word against the other and I can't claim to have taken a massive interest in the case at the time, but from what I did see ultimately the judge sided with Parish and painted Pulis as the miscreant with a rather dodgy character!

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:46 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I'm sure all the facts weren't ever aired and of course it's one man's word against the other and I can't claim to have taken a massive interest in the case at the time, but from what I did see ultimately the judge sided with Parish and painted Pulis as the miscreant with a rather dodgy character!

To tell you the truth, I don't know very much about it. I just happened to run into Norman Hayward , the owner of Yeovil, today. We always speak about football and I mentioned that I was concerned that Dyche was going to take the CP job at which point his face dropped and he laid into Parish like a man possessed. I won't tell you exactly what he said but he knows Pulis very well and said in no uncertain terms that it would be a bad move for Dyche to make.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:50 pm

dermotdermot wrote:To tell you the truth, I don't know very much about it. I just happened to run into Norman Hayward , the owner of Yeovil, today. We always speak about football and I mentioned that I was concerned that Dyche was going to take the CP job at which point his face dropped and he laid into Parish like a man possessed. I won't tell you exactly what he said but he knows Pulis very well and said in no uncertain terms that it would be a bad move for Dyche to make.

Fair enough. I certainly don't think a guy like Parish is blameless or indeed saintly and folk don't tend to make serious money in life like he has by being an all round good egg!

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:52 pm

I stopped worrying a day or three ago. Why would Dyche leave a very secure job to go somewhere that's ambivalent about signing him? If Parrish was mad keen, why are all these other names being looked at? Dyche would need a much bigger step-up than Palace, to leave for a job where he isn't first choice and they have a history of sacking managers quickly.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:54 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I'm sure all the facts weren't ever aired and of course it's one man's word against the other and I can't claim to have taken a massive interest in the case at the time, but from what I did see ultimately the judge sided with Parish and painted Pulis as the miscreant with a rather dodgy character!

BBC report on Pulis Crystal Palace court case: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38181922" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Guardian's report on the case: https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... -west-brom" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Several other reports in other media outlets.

In the lead up to the case the dispute appeared to be around Pulis (alleged ?) request to be paid the bonus earlier than the agreed date and then resigning from CP before that date. It was also alleged, according to reports, that Pulis had requested the early payment to assist one of his children buy a property - though it was unclear whether any such purchase took place.

It may or may not have been reported at the time that the payment of the bonus was also on the expectation that Pulis would remain with CP beyond the date that the bonus was first agreed to be paid. The dispute arose because he had resigned from CP.

I'm sure the decisions that were made by the appropriate authorities were based on examination of the facts including contract agreements and other relevant matters.

ayrshireclaret83 · Post by **ayrshireclaret83** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:57 pm

ayrshireclaret83 wrote:I put 25 on pellegrino last night at 6/1 didn't change

Fingers crossed on these Spanish reports

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:20 pm

Be good if club released a statement to clarify for the fans what, if anything is going on. Its called PR, and would be beneficial seeing as over twenty thousand of us spend a small fortune with them every year.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:19 am

Dyche out to 3/1 now

Pellegrino gone 4/6 on!

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:29 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:Be good if club released a statement to clarify for the fans what, if anything is going on. Its called PR, and would be beneficial seeing as over twenty thousand of us spend a small fortune with them every year.

What like "Sean Dyche has applied for the vacant Crystal Palace job, but was unsuccessful on this occasion,so we are happy to announce he's staying for now".
That would be a PR faux pas,his position would become untenable.
How could he possibly sell our club to potential transfer targets with them knowing he's actively looking to leave the club?.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:51 am

bartons baggage wrote:What like "Sean Dyche has applied for the vacant Crystal Palace job, but was unsuccessful on this occasion,so we are happy to announce he's staying for now".
That would be a PR faux pas,his position would become untenable.
How could he possibly sell our club to potential transfer targets with them knowing he's actively looking to leave the club?.

dont care how they word it, but you sound gullible enough to believe all's well in the world providing you dont know the truth.
Just saying nothing is the mistake, and if he has been in talks and expressed interest, it is preferable fans understand that.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:03 am

The judge in the Pulis-Palace court case was damming:

'Pulis’s “conduct has been shown to be disgraceful”.'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/201 ... -judgment/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:09 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:Be good if club released a statement to clarify for the fans what, if anything is going on. Its called PR, and would be beneficial seeing as over twenty thousand of us spend a small fortune with them every year.

What kind of statement? There's nothing going on at the club. Even if Dyche was at Palace now for talks (I think he's still somewhere on the Kebs though) it is nothing for our club to comment on.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:04 am

Still think there's nothing in it. The bookies have even got odds on which team Tom Heaton will sign for and Burnley as favourites to sign Niasse from Everton neither of which will happen IMO.

criminalclaret · Post by **criminalclaret** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:12 am

As CT said, there is no need for BFC to release a statement when there's nothing to talk about. Lots of crap in the press, lots of speculation but Dyche is the manager and has been for the past 4 1/2 years and counting. Nobody needs to confirm he's the manager - that just makes the club look like a fool and thus spread more rumour.

Are we going to act like this every time another club has a managerial vacancy?

Nothing to see here, Sean's back from hols and planning out future transfers and getting ready for pre-season.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:13 pm

IF there is any truth in the reports in the Croydon press that Sean Dyche is to be interviewed for the Crystal Palace job then I would expect BFC to issue a statement along the lines of "they have given permission to their manager (Sean Dyche) to be interviewed for the vacancy at another club." That, surely, is standard practice when a manager is under contract. If Sean Dyche is interviewed for the CP job then the story will surely be leaked anyway.
I agree that if these stories are just another example of fake news then BFC would not be expected to issue any statement or make further comment.
It would soon become common knowledge within the world of football, agents speaking to other agents and players, if Sean Dyche was actively pursuing a change of club and direction.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:22 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:dont care how they word it, but you sound gullible enough to believe all's well in the world providing you dont know the truth.
Just saying nothing is the mistake, and if he has been in talks and expressed interest, it is preferable fans understand that.

sorry, Wile. you are wrong on this one. this is business. keep your cards close to your chest. as fans we just have to suck on it.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:21 pm

minnieclaret wrote:sorry, Wile. you are wrong on this one. this is business. keep your cards close to your chest. as fans we just have to suck on it.

well we differ then, I think thats utter nonsense, and to say the club needn't bother saying anything is beyond a joke.
It is as if it was irrelevant that the manager might be leaving, or the fans believe its possible. Oh no, not a matter for the club to concern themselves with, Rubbish !!!

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:22 pm

But if that's the case, then they should have done it when he was linked with Sunderland too, or any other job he will get linked too. It's all in the press, and not "official" so technically there is nothing to report on.

Boyd is leaving, but the club haven't said anything, should they? Same with Keane, what is there to actually say?

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:08 pm

on here Burnley fans are discussing the possibility of the best manager we've had (possibly) leaving, or maybe holding talks with another club.
If if is no more than press speculation, then what it do any harm to reassure the paying public that it is not going to happen ?
You know the possible implications if we lost Dyche.
It could potentially go **** up.
That is a pretty major issue for supporeters, the club are clearly aware of the matter, even if it was just to allay fears pre season that its all ok, would that be asking too much? It shouldn't be.
If he has had talks, but the club persuaded him to stay, I still think it merits saying where we are up to with it.
Speaking about it openly is beneficial unless there is something to conceal.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:23 pm

Nothing to discuss nothing to conceal IMO burnley fc don't do gossip.

Woonderbah · Post by **Woonderbah** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:29 pm

SD didn't need to wear club colours whilst supporting Jeff Stelling on the walk... but he did and that's a statement in some ways.
Looks business as usual to me.

nyclaret · Post by **nyclaret** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:41 pm

I'll say it again. There was absolutely nothing in this. Dyche didn't go for an interview. It was just the press talking!

claretlegend · Post by **claretlegend** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:08 pm

Just seen Burnley have posted an interview with Dyche on ClaretsPlayer talking about 'the past, present and future of Burnley Football Club'. Is this a recent interview and does he give anything away? (I can't watch, i'm at work)

claretlegend · Post by **claretlegend** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:12 pm

claretlegend wrote:Just seen Burnley have posted an interview with Dyche on ClaretsPlayer talking about 'the past, present and future of Burnley Football Club'. Is this a recent interview and does he give anything away? (I can't watch, i'm at work)

I can answer my own questions... just seen it says 'Sean Dyche sat down with Premier League Productions late last season to discuss the past, present and future of Burnley Football Club'... so not current.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:43 pm

Sean Dyche getting "linked" with a move to another club and media speculation is not the issue here.

Nobody would expect BFC to make a statement every time a bookmaker offers a price for him to go to a different club.

The issue is that IF Dyche had talks with another club about taking over as their new manager should BFC make a statement saying that they have given permission for that to happen?