Walking 5 Miles Daily (weight loss)

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:22 am

Clarinetclaret wrote:So basically you're trying to say with cycling you can't lose weight, complete and utter horse excrement!

no. i can't lose weight and i do big distances and work like stink but it doesn't do it for me. others have no problem. possibly to do with Franks comment about water weight? i do drink regularly on the road.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:28 am

We've made page 2 and I feel like I've already burned 500 calories.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:33 am

sad , once we drank, talked, laughed and ate food, now we have runners and fitness gurus dictating our lives, how dull. some new kind of seaweed makes you live a month longer, and clive at the office has a great new App he'll share about the best trainers,what a load of ********. since when did calorie counting and protein shakes become so ******* worthy?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:39 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:sad , once we drank, talked, laughed and ate food, now we have runners and fitness gurus dictating our lives, how dull. some new kind of seaweed makes you live a month longer, and clive at the office has a great new App he'll share about the best trainers,what a load of ********. since when did calorie counting and protein shakes become so ******* worthy?

Let's walk, drink and be merry.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:42 am

Bernd Schuster used to walk five miles every Sunday afternoon...for Athletico Madrid.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:43 am

Pstotto wrote:Bernd Schuster used to walk five miles every Sunday afternoon...for Athletico Madrid.

We can do better than that - do it every day.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:45 am

It's not good for the health, to exercise every day. You get muscle wastage instead of muscle development.

Clarinetclaret · Post by **Clarinetclaret** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:48 am

minnieclaret wrote:no. i can't lose weight and i do big distances and work like stink but it doesn't do it for me. others have no problem. possibly to do with Franks comment about water weight? i do drink regularly on the road.

What sort of cadence do you pedal at? If you cycle the big ring all the time then you're mainly working your muscles. Using a higher cadence works more on your cardiovascular system. I can drop 3 or 4 pounds on a 35 mile ride on an hot day, and that's with keeping myself well hydrated. Anyway you said you put the pound you lost back on when eating, so are you saying that every time you eat you gain a pound? So if you didn't cycle you would gain weight.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:09 am

Clarinetclaret wrote:What sort of cadence do you pedal at? If you cycle the big ring all the time then you're mainly working your muscles. Using a higher cadence works more on your cardiovascular system.

So if you didn't cycle you would gain weight.

I was advised to pedal 2 gears less than the gear you think you should be in, a couple of years ago. As you say the muscles are used less and I do find it more comfortable.

you are right about the weight gain. I'm a ballooner, if I don't exercise I pile on the pounds.
As has been pointed out earlier this thread has been diverted so this is my last response on it.

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:29 am

not sure if you want to include golf as walking but me and my mate used to do 12 holes 3 or 4 times a week...we started in april and played through to november...we both lost over a stone during that time every year....probably around 15 miles walking per week.

Sarum · Post by **Sarum** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:07 am

Happy: if you were carrying your own clubs too for part of that time then that would have further promoted weight loss.

I'm pretty active but between Christmas and April I found that my regular walks were not trimming my weight back at all. At the beginning of May I decided to eat only muesli types of cereals for breakfast for a while, cutting out toast and marmalade most days. At lunch I swapped the usual 3 slice cheese and something sandwich for a couple of boiled eggs (no bread, or maybe just one slice) and then a filling fruit like apple and banana to keep me going till tea. Then fewer spuds, more green veg. Fewer meals with chips, just a small glass of wine/pint now and again and fruit with a little bit of ice cream as a treat most evenings. This, coupled with walking up and down a hilly area/some steps exercises several times a week for about 35 minutes whilst wearing a small backpack containing a few bottles of water etc for extra weight has resulted in losing ten pounds in a 7 week period. I feel much fitter, less fatigue and another bonus is that I feel fulller sooner at mealtimes and so I'm eating less for that reason too. It all helps.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:41 am

I'm a believer that you can't outrun (or outwalk) a bad diet.

Cut out the sugar, get your carbs right down, and get more fat into you. Just eat good food, which you prepare yourself. Ignore calories. There are more calories in a banana or a salmon fillet than a kitkat or a ready meal, but you can guess which ones are better for you. Calories are a really bad way of measuring food intake, and it is all based on very outdated and bad science. Basically calories are measured by how long it takes for food to burn over a bunsen burner. Your body is not a bunsen burner. It does not burn food in anywhere near the same way.

Have a read of this from the British Medical Journal http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2015/ ... 015-094911

Good luck with the walks by the way - I can't commit to doing a walk every day, but me and the Mrs have a set 4 mile+ walk we like to do, and we'll do it more often.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:48 am

the best thing about any walk is the pint at the end of it.

Ambrose · Post by **Ambrose** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:43 am

I've lost 2.5 stone in about 3 months using the 5-2 diet. I've been trying to lose weight for years but nothing worked.

This is working. For five days of the week I eat the same as usual but on the other two days, I eat only 600 calories.

eg Yesterday I had a cup of coffee at breakfast time, a cup of soup for dinner and an omelette & two slices of bread for tea. I also had enough calories left for a small chocolate biscuit with a cup of tea at supper time.

Today it's PIZZA, yesssssssssssssssssssssss.

I now feel much fitter and last week I was able to fulfil an ambition to climb Cad West in Wales to photograph these beauties.

2S1A0865 by John Pate, on Flickr

I wouldn't have been able to do this a few months ago.

IMG_7495 by John Pate, on Flickr

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:51 am

One thing that might make a difference is giving up drink. Due to medical reasons I haven't drank alcohol since December 2014 and feel far better for it.

When you look at the number of calories in wine and beer it's evident that they are the biggest contributing factor for many people putting on weight.

Ambrose · Post by **Ambrose** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:00 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:I'm a believer that you can't outrun (or outwalk) a bad diet.

Cut out the sugar, get your carbs right down, and get more fat into you. Just eat good food, which you prepare yourself. Ignore calories. There are more calories in a banana or a salmon fillet than a kitkat or a ready meal, but you can guess which ones are better for you. Calories are a really bad way of measuring food intake, and it is all based on very outdated and bad science. Basically calories are measured by how long it takes for food to burn over a bunsen burner. Your body is not a bunsen burner. It does not burn food in anywhere near the same way.

One of our guests, an airline pilot from San Francisco, follows your suggestion rigorously. She had no cereal, bread of toast at breakfast but she did manage, two fried eggs, two sausages, broccoli and sprouts. Yeah, that's right, for breakfast.

She was overweight when she started three years ago and to be honest, I'd now say she's just fat.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:05 am

I barely drink these days and do a lot of cycling.

If I could just snack less at work then I'd be well happy, but the cycling does keep the weight in check thankfully.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:14 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:I'm a believer that you can't outrun (or outwalk) a bad diet.

I suppose it depends on whether you can simply burn off more calories than you take in. Obviously, a bad diet won't contain all the vitamins and minerals you need to keep you healthy.

Bertiebeehead · Post by **Bertiebeehead** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:23 am

yTib wrote:if you want to lose weight reduce your calorie intake. walking won't do you any harm but it takes a hell of lot of walking to exhaust a biscuit.

I tend to roll my biscuit, it doesn't get as tired then.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:58 pm

minnieclaret wrote:I was advised to pedal 2 gears less than the gear you think you should be in, a couple of years ago. As you say the muscles are used less and I do find it more comfortable.

you are right about the weight gain. I'm a ballooner, if I don't exercise I pile on the pounds.
As has been pointed out earlier this thread has been diverted so this is my last response on it.

Arthur Cargill looked at me as if I had 2 heads, when I said I needed a bigger cog on my pedals to go faster.
He said you should never need it until competition, always use the small cog and get your cadence up if you want to improve your cycling, and your fitness.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:34 pm

minnieclaret wrote:you are right about the weight gain. I'm a ballooner, if I don't exercise I pile on the pounds.

It sounds like you need to make drastic changes to your diet.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:50 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I'm a believer that you can't outrun (or outwalk) a bad diet.

Cut out the sugar, get your carbs right down, and get more fat into you. Just eat good food, which you prepare yourself. Ignore calories. There are more calories in a banana or a salmon fillet than a kitkat or a ready meal, but you can guess which ones are better for you. Calories are a really bad way of measuring food intake, and it is all based on very outdated and bad science. Basically calories are measured by how long it takes for food to burn over a bunsen burner. Your body is not a bunsen burner. It does not burn food in anywhere near the same way.

Have a read of this from the British Medical Journal http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2015/ ... 015-094911

Good luck with the walks by the way - I can't commit to doing a walk every day, but me and the Mrs have a set 4 mile+ walk we like to do, and we'll do it more often.

If you need further information about food companies behaving like the tobacco companies used to (as suggested in the BMJ article) this is an informative read:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Salt-S ... chael+moss" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:02 pm

Hipper wrote:If you need further information about food companies behaving like the tobacco companies used to (as suggested in the BMJ article) this is an informative read:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Salt-S ... chael+moss" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This one's the biggie for me: Robert Lustig's Fat Chance https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Fat-Ch ... 1Y7N8WS7HP

The top review nails it:

This book is one of the most important I've ever read, and I've been a GP for 34 years. I wish I'd known the stuff in here years ago, as all thru my career the official mantra has been "eat less fat, do more exercise" and, sadly I've repeated this message to many many patients. And yet the population is fatter, diabetes & metabolic syndrome have become epidemic and orthodox advice has clearly failed. This book tells you why - not all calories are equal, fructose (the villain) is a type of carbohydrate but is not metabolised as glucose and so causes damage, processed food is a disaster (sugar added to almost everything, the good stuff, eg. fibre, taken out). Yes, there's an American slant in the stories and background, but the issues raised are worldwide - wherever sugar intake has increased, obesity, diabetes, etc have rapidly followed, whatever the previous traditional diet was (high fat, low fat or whatever). I can't recommend the book highly enough and only hope the politicians, supermarkets, and food producers listen and act on its message. Assuming they won't, change your own life and those you influence by following its advice!

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:06 pm

Sarum wrote:Happy: if you were carrying your own clubs too for part of that time then that would have further promoted weight loss.

I'm pretty active but between Christmas and April I found that my regular walks were not trimming my weight back at all. At the beginning of May I decided to eat only muesli types of cereals for breakfast for a while, cutting out toast and marmalade most days. At lunch I swapped the usual 3 slice cheese and something sandwich for a couple of boiled eggs (no bread, or maybe just one slice) and then a filling fruit like apple and banana to keep me going till tea. Then fewer spuds, more green veg. Fewer meals with chips, just a small glass of wine/pint now and again and fruit with a little bit of ice cream as a treat most evenings. This, coupled with walking up and down a hilly area/some steps exercises several times a week for about 35 minutes whilst wearing a small backpack containing a few bottles of water etc for extra weight has resulted in losing ten pounds in a 7 week period. I feel much fitter, less fatigue and another bonus is that I feel fulller sooner at mealtimes and so I'm eating less for that reason too. It all helps.

Sarum
I forgot to add that I was carrying my clubs and bag with clubs was just short of 2 stone....I cycle a lot and play golf.....when I come back from cycling my appetite is a bit surpressed....when I finish golf I am starving....can only assume its a better calorie burn playing golf.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:49 pm

My issue is beer and age

Im 30 next month and up until about 27 I could eat and drink what I wanted and was always around the 11 stone mark. In the past 2/3 years I haven't started eating or drinking more but I think I have hit the age where it will take its toll.

I have gone from looking almost unhealthily thin to overweight at 14 stone.

I think I eat relatively healthy. X2 toast for breakfast, an orange mid morning, a salad with wholemeal bread for lunch, and then usually something like a stir fry, homemade curry, fajitas, spag bol etc. I don't eat chocolate often and might have 2 bags of crisps a week.

I think my issue is the real ale. When I was younger I use to go out most weekends and would have a couple of beers and move onto the vodka or gin.
Now I rarely go out and don't drink through the week but I will ususally have x3 real ales on a Friday night, maybe another 4/5 on sat. I don't usually drink on Sunday but if I go out for Sunday lunch or have a bbq I will have a few.

This weather is a killer for it because if the bbq comes out several pints will be drank as well

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:14 pm

Just to add I will start the 5 mile a day walking challenge tonight. I currently weigh about 14 stone. Want to get down to 12.5. I will mix it up with playing football on Wednesdays and going to the gym a couple of times a week as well

scamander · Post by **scamander** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:22 pm

lots of posts here so I'll be as short as possible. Learn how many calories are in X and Y. Work out how many you burn walking or whatever it is you do, it can be a great way of avoiding going for biscuits etc when you realise that a couple will mean your next 5km walk or such will be to make up for it (effectively just catching up).

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:13 pm

Just completed the 5 mile walk. I decided to make it harder by bringing my 13 month old son on my back. Knackard now

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:22 pm

Inchy wrote:
My issue is beer and age

Im 30 next month and up until about 27 I could eat and drink what I wanted and was always around the 11 stone mark. In the past 2/3 years I haven't started eating or drinking more but I think I have hit the age where it will take its toll

This is what marriage and kids do to you

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:24 pm

Correct JohnMac.

No point in staying fit now, lifes virtually over anyway

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:30 pm

We moved up from S Lincs in December to Padiham and joined Slimming World in March.

About 1.5 stone gone so far and that would have been double if I had the discipline to take it with me when we are away (3 holidays so far).

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:37 pm

That's some good going. I think I like the ale too much to see those results

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:47 pm

Inchy wrote:That's some good going. I think I like the ale too much to see those results

Mmm...if approx 8 bottles of ale a week is too much then I'm fooked

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:18 pm

I do a fast 50 odd minutes walk round Chiang Rai city when I am there. I always lose a bit.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:39 pm

Apparently, a pint of beer is equal to a large slice of pizza.

https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/alcohol-fa ... its/lager/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:11 pm

Fast walking round the moat in Chiang Mai takes 1 hour 9 minutes. That burns a few calories.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:56 am

I managed to do pretty much bang on 5.5 miles this morning, stopping off at the cafe enroute, but opting for poached eggs on toast. It took approx 2 hours, but I was reading the newspaper for a while in the cafe. I'm also aiming for 2-3 litres of water per day (probably need more in this weather). The 2 goals at the moment is to get to 12 and a half stone and lower body fat. For those who are taking this up, just update now and again with starting weight, current weight and target weight, plus things such as water intake if you're adding that to the list.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:10 pm

Hi Frank, I guess it's not as warm where you are?

I'm drinking the water today, but otherwise staying inside in as much "cool" as I can find. My 5-mile (8km) will wait until the heat is gone.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:14 pm

Paul, I actually found it cooler outside! I'm sweating more since I got back. I live in the top/3rd floor of flats and I seem to get heat rising from the 2 flats below me. All of the windows are open, but it's too uncomfortable. That was one of the reasons why I went out and I'm contemplating another shower and going out again.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:21 pm

9.1km this AM, took me an hour and forty mins, which is about normal, I have been doing 8km plus everyday nearly for the last 12 months and am down from 19'3 to 16'3 at the moment but was at 15'10 and got I should be like the Bionic Man, I've told her I will swap my right one for hers any
day. Anyway good luck to all who are trying to lose weight get fitter and strangely enough you do feel better in yourself when you succeed, it's keeping it off that is the hard part

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:41 pm

tybfc wrote:I have just bought a fit bit and am syncing it into my phone and laptop.

I walk at least 5 miles a day at a mile per 9 minutes. But I will normally walk many more but have an awful appetite (haven't eaten yet today) and cannot afford to lose any weight. I think that I need to learn to enjoy eating before walking.

Tony - If you are walking a mile every 9 minutes you should be in the GB walking team!

Rammy1968 · Post by **Rammy1968** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:51 pm

Yes that's some walking speed that Tony over 6 mile n hour

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:14 pm

Rammy1968 wrote:Yes that's some walking speed that Tony over 6 mile n hour

Maybe he does that speed when he's trying to lose Colin!

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:40 pm

I'm 6'1 and between 70-75kg (so not overweight at all) but for the last 12 months I've been bone idle and the most exercise I've had is walking to and from the car park at work, or walking to the pub on a Saturday. I decided a couple of weeks ago to start jogging again and I've been doing between 3-4k per run, two to three times per week. I have to say I'm appalled at how unfit I've become, and how inflexible my body is - which has been noticeable through the various muscle strains and niggles I've picked up just doing moderate running. I'm slowly starting to see my fitness improve and can do the route without stopping now. The worst part is though that I'm only 27! Possibly the first signs of aging because I always used to be quite naturally fit

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:44 am

ClaretTony wrote:Apart from not being able to walk too far, I also have the problem of any walk from here will involve a climb and descent (I'd be much better off being Dutch I think).

What I used to do, for those who know the area, is walk from the now deceased Bull & Butcher up Crown Point Road to the first cattle grid and from there down Woodplumpton Road to Glen View Road and then back home along there. I'm not sure how far that is, it's certainly nowhere near five miles, but once the weather has cooled down a bit I'll start doing that again.

I need to be a bit fitter and hate swimming so this is the best for me if I can do it.

Foolishly, I posted this earlier in the thread. Did I really say I'd do that? The climb up Crown Point Road is very steep.

I reckon it won't be much more than a couple of miles but having opened my big mouth and said I'd do it, I'm going to do it, although I doubt this will be every day.

If I've not posted on here again by 11:15 a.m. today, can someone get a search party out on Crown Point Road?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:15 am

Back, safe and almost sound.

I'd forgotten how steep that climb is while realising how unfit I am. Still, I made it.

I reckoned it was going to be about two miles, the Heath App on my phone says it is 3.6 km which is around two and a quarter miles (I don't know how accurate that is). It was good weather for walking I suppose, a cool breeze and a bit damp, it was also very misty.

No way on earth am I up to doing that every day but I'll target Saturday for a repeat.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:42 am

Did you get picked up once you'd reached the top? I remember going up Woodplumpton Road, off Rossendale Road, many years ago which I remember as being very steep. I think it meets Crown Point Road, near the Singing Tree.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:51 am

I walked up Crown Point Road from Manchester Road (Bull & Butcher) which is a steep climb. Went as far as the first cattle grid (Ringing Singing Tree is much further on close to second cattle grid). That was the ascent, then I walked down Woodplumpton Road which brings you out onto New Road then Glen View Road, went along there to Manchester Road and back home.

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joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:04 pm

Am I the only person to give up alcohol and put on weight

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:05 pm

joey13 wrote:Am I the only person to give up alcohol and put on weight

Stop eating ffs

two pies do not equal a pint