Britt Assombalonga

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:55 am

60K a week and missing out on promotion would be **** funny,why do I hate Middlesboro so much?

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:57 am

depends on how much he believes in himself.

30k contract with us, bangs in 15 goals next season, then he'll be getting 100k offers

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:02 pm

Rumbletonk wrote:If you had the choice (which he does) of sitting on 10million or 20million at the end of your career you would choose the latter

It doesn't quite work like that though!

It all depends on how much he believes in himself! If he see's himself as a top level championship player/lower Prem player then take the higher wage.

However, if he believes he can go far then you would imagine he would be looking at Burnley as a stepping stone to an even higher wage and a proven Prem player in the next 2-3 years, taking him into his prime.

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:03 pm

Ric_C wrote:depends on how much he believes in himself.

30k contract with us, bangs in 15 goals next season, then he'll be getting 100k offers

Woah, its like you was reading my post as I was typing it

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:04 pm

It depends how much we believe in him. A 1.5m signing on fee negates the extra weekly wage he could get at Boro and doesn't break our wage structure

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:09 pm

MarkGreen wrote:Woah, its like you was reading my post as I was typing it

Ha ha, great minds

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:10 pm

britt maybe did.

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Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:15 pm

Ric_C wrote:depends on how much he believes in himself.

30k contract with us, bangs in 15 goals next season, then he'll be getting 100k offers

Exactly. If he wants to earn the even stupider big bucks then a move to a Premier League club will put him in the shop window.

Of course he could get promoted with Middlesbrough and then be at the big boys table next year but if they fail to get promotion he's another year older and still untested at Premier League level.

As others have said, a survival bonus at Burnley would be likely to plug the wage gap although I expect Boro probably offer a healthy promotion bonus.

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:19 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Of course he could get promoted with Middlesbrough and then be at the big boys table next year but if they fail to get promotion he's another year older and still untested at Premier League level.

2 good premier league seasons with Burnley would be far more beneficial for him providing we stay up.

If he had 2 good seasons with Boro and got promoted in the first, he would only be where Andre Gray is now.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:21 pm

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burnleyaremy2ndteam · Post by **burnleyaremy2ndteam** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:23 pm

Boro fan perspective here! I'd be surprised if he is coming to us as it looks like we are about to wrap up Braithwaite for £9 Million. That would leave our attacking options as Braithwaite, Bamford (This is his level!) and Gestede (Plan B substitute?). the £60,000 wages seem unrealistic for the Chamionship but that said we have already offloaded a huge amount from the wage budget from Negredo, Valdes and will save more if we can get shot of Downing and Ramirez.

Earlier in the window we were linked with a load deal for Ings, what are your thoughts on how he would perform this season?

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:40 pm

Rumbletonk wrote:If you had the choice (which he does) of sitting on 10million or 20million at the end of your career you would choose the latter

Not if you put your sporting ambitions before your financial ambitions because either figure is enough to be comfortable for the rest of your life.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:47 pm

He's hardly giving up on his sporting ambitions by signing for Boro. Its not like we're guaranteed to stay up next season either. It would be a difficult decision at the very least

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:49 pm

Ings is better than the lot of them burnleyaremy2ndteam

Injury recovery depending, I'd be gutted if he weren't coming back here on loan, if he goes anywhere.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:49 pm

Did a Boro fan just say £60k a week is an unrealistic wage for the championship?

You were paying Rhodes close to £50k...

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:51 pm

burnleyaremy2ndteam wrote:Earlier in the window we were linked with a load deal for Ings, what are your thoughts on how he would perform this season?

If you managed to get Ings that would be a really good signing. Too good for the Championship. Good pace and technical ability with an eye for goal. I'd have him back here in a heart beat...

He isn't going to paly for Liverpool I wouldn't have thought. He could hardly get in the team when they had league cup games when he was fit and Liverpool are always looking to strengthen too. He needs to kick start his career somehwere.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:52 pm

If we did manage to get britt and keep gray that would be fantastic and a creative winger and a solid center back id say that would be a brilliant transfer window

burnleyaremy2ndteam · Post by **burnleyaremy2ndteam** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:56 pm

Regarding the wages, out of curiosity, how do you guys feel about Burnley's wage structure model? I read in Soccernomics that the correlation between transfer fees spent does not have a strong correlation to finishing position but average wages is a much stronger indicator of how well a team will do.
With Burnley being hailed as one of the most profitable clubs would you like to see a striker being paid £60K?

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:58 pm

Boro were paying Nugent a silly wage and when promoted realised he was a Championship player and not PL

Seriously- would not like to be spending this sort of money without the security of promotion. With Villa, Hull, Reading, Derby, Sunderland, Sheff Wed all going for it-plus no doubt a "season dark horse" which we have come to expect, and you would not bet the ranch on an immediate return. Their 4 strikers must have cost close to £50m in the past 6 months

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:05 pm

I'd like to think a potential signing of his age would look at the development of similar aged players as well as money. We can list off numerous players who have been successful over the past few years (Jay-Rod, Austin, Ings, Trippier, Keane). The ones we purchased all left as vastly better players than the ones who arrived. You could highlight the rise of Tom Heaton since his arrival also, and then there's Ben Mee, Sam Vokes and Andre Gray. We've proved time and again that we know how to develop and improve players and make them into top flight footballers.

Without being derogatory to Boro and Watford I don't think either of those clubs can say the same... certainly not to the same extent. Troy Deeney is a Watford success story but who else is there? You could argue Cathcart is a better player since joining from Blackpool but he's hardly a world beater! And Boro have Gibson, obviously, and George Friend was a great find from Doncaster but beyond that they're struggling.

I can't really think of a player from either club who's gone for proper money either. The last player who left Boro for a decent fee was Downing in 2009. Watford made a killing on Vydra last year but he still dropped down a level.

As a young prospective player coming into the PL for the first time you'd surely look at this and hedge your bets a bit!

burnleyaremy2ndteam · Post by **burnleyaremy2ndteam** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:10 pm

Without being derogatory to Boro and Watford I don't think either of those clubs can say the same... certainly not to the same extent. Troy Deeney is a Watford success story but who else is there? You could argue Cathcart is a better player since joining from Blackpool but he's hardly a world beater! And Boro have Gibson, obviously, and George Friend was a great find from Doncaster but beyond that they're struggling.

I'd agree with you here jlup, it wasnt long ago that our bench would be full of kids from the academy on the verge of breaking into the first team and we have had some success here; downing, gibson, cattermole, adam johnson, actually the less said about him the better!

Our scouting department, whilst seemingly more international than Burnley's does not have a good track record of 'diamonds in the rough' and we havent been able to develop players in the same way that Dyche can

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:18 pm

If Danny Ings is available on loan, I would be seriously ****** if he went to the Championship.
Fit he is far better than anything we have, no disrespect to any of them, and he plays off the target man in the way we all hope AG would/could.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:21 pm

Great username....

Ings is quality. Like many I would love him back here, really good technically, very good finisher, has good speed and is tenacious. I would hope if was being released for loan that we would be after him, he's a real fans favourite here, and has a lot of tied in the area.

That said Liverpool will be cautious of lending him out to top 6 rivals so we'll see. (Only joking of course).

If fit he would be Championship leading goal scorer by a mile and a bit!

Yes I like Danny Ings.

Estonhills · Post by **Estonhills** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:36 pm

burnleyaremy2ndteam wrote:Boro fan perspective here! I'd be surprised if he is coming to us as it looks like we are about to wrap up Braithwaite for £9 Million. That would leave our attacking options as Braithwaite, Bamford (This is his level!) and Gestede (Plan B substitute?). the £60,000 wages seem unrealistic for the Chamionship but that said we have already offloaded a huge amount from the wage budget from Negredo, Valdes and will save more if we can get shot of Downing and Ramirez.

Earlier in the window we were linked with a load deal for Ings, what are your thoughts on how he would perform this season?

Another Boro fans persective. I doubt Braithwaite has any impact on a Britt. Braithwaite is a winger, or number 10 and not an out and out forward.

We have already this summer sold

Rhodes - 10m Went through in this years acccounts
Espinosa - 4m
Fischer - 3m
Husband 1m
Non of them first team players.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:37 pm

As a team, that of late, hasn't used the loan market too much, it wouldn't be a huge risk. A bit of a win, win, win if you like for us, Danny and Liverpool.

If it doesn't work out, unless we were intending to bring someone else in, there's little to lose, particularly if a wage deal could be sorted out.

It's a yes from me.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:37 pm

Everyone wants Ings back but no one has a clue if he's fit or which Ings would arrive.

The old Ings or a lesser player...

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:41 pm

Estonhills wrote:Another Boro fans persective. I doubt Braithwaite has any impact on a Britt. Braithwaite is a winger, or number 10 and not an out and out forward.

We have already this summer sold

Rhodes - 10m Went through in this years acccounts
Espinosa - 4m
Fischer - 3m
Husband 1m
Non of them first team players.

Assuming he works out for you, Braithwaite seems like the sort of signing you need. Someone to create opportunities, which you seemed to lack last season.

lucs86 · Post by **lucs86** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:42 pm

Ric_C wrote:depends on how much he believes in himself.

30k contract with us, bangs in 15 goals next season, then he'll be getting 100k offers

'Depends on how much he believes in himself' would probably be more of a factor if he hadn't missed the majority of the last 2 seasons out injured. His knee could go again, his hamstring could become a persistent problem, he's likely more susceptible to this than most. If he gets another injury, misses a third of the season (like last season), this window might represent the peak of his earning capability. Whether he thinks he can cut it in the PL or not, there's a contract on offer that's maybe 50% higher than the other over 3-4 years.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:47 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Everyone wants Ings back but no one has a clue if he's fit or which Ings would arrive.

The old Ings or a lesser player...

I'm certainly being a little contradictory. I've said plenty of times that there is no room for sentimentality in football. There's definitely an element of the sentimental in hoping for an Ings return.

A gamble but one I'd be happy if we saw fit to take it.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:48 pm

Surprised Braithwaite is going to Boro, I'd have thought he'd have offers from the PL. Very good signing for them though, he's supposed to be highly rated in France.

I feel like we could do with more of a number 10 than a Gray replacement - a fully fit Ings would be perfect.

bfc1984 · Post by **bfc1984** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:54 pm

boroaremy2ndmosthatedteam

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:12 pm

boroaremy3rdmosthatedteam

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:29 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:If Danny Ings is available on loan......

Eddie would outbid us and Danny could move back home.

burnleyaremy2ndteam · Post by **burnleyaremy2ndteam** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:41 pm

Quicknick - I'm assuming the Bar Stewards are number one but who is number 2?

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:44 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Everyone wants Ings back but no one has a clue if he's fit or which Ings would arrive.

The old Ings or a lesser player...

I'd be hoping it was Daniel William John Ings born 23/7/1992. Any other and I've got to say I'd be pretty underwhelmed.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:00 pm

If Ings is going to the championship on loan then he hasn't fully recovered. If he has then the bottom half of the prem should all be interested.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:41 pm

That Braithwaite that Boro are getting is a really good player. I've seen him play a few times for club and country, he'll boss the Championship

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:42 pm

Nah, Braithwaite is toss on Fifa.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:13 pm

Interesting

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FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:15 pm

Braithwaite might do well in the championship as he is highly rated in France but lets not forget Frederick Nimani was highly rated in France.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:30 pm

FulledgeClaret wrote:Braithwaite might do well in the championship as he is highly rated in France but lets not forget Frederick Nimani was highly rated in France.

Like many on here I was at Bolton that night Nimani made an appearance. I was critical of him within a minute and someone near me said I was being unfair. At the end of his second minute on the pitch I wasn't prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. Incredibly poor player.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:59 pm

burnleyaremy2ndteam wrote:Quicknick - I'm assuming the Bar Stewards are number one but who is number 2?

Leeds and Blackburn joint most hated. I'm from Skipton which explains the former.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:06 pm

Sounds like a new bid isnt to far away . These usually arnt to far away from the mark

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:11 pm

They got it from here,

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Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:12 pm

Possibly who knows

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:13 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:Like many on here I was at Bolton that night Nimani made an appearance. I was critical of him within a minute and someone near me said I was being unfair. At the end of his second minute on the pitch I wasn't prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. Incredibly poor player.

I remember my brother shouting for him to be brought on. He soon shouted for him to come off

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:20 pm

The impression you get from the stories over the last couple of days is that Assombalonga wants to join us (or at least, to move to the Premier League)

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:21 pm

claretspice wrote:The impression you get from the stories over the last couple of days is that Assombalonga wants to join us (or at least, to move to the Premier League)

How do you work that out ? He's still in america

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:29 pm

I think what Spice means is that he wants to play in the EPL and Dyche is a pull factor. He gave him his Watford debut, and he is known to be good at developing players. BA must know this.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:30 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:How do you work that out ? He's still in america

I think that what he means is that people talk. I'd be very surprised if it isn't his agent doing the talking mind. I think everyone knows how tight the inner circle is kept at Burnley. Could also just be click bait.