Re: Mighty Clarets versus Hannover 69 oops!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:02 pm

I suppose it's good preparation for when we are in the Champions League

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:05 pm

LOL

burnley police tweet from earlier in day

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Burnley and Padiham Police
3 hours ago
Welcome to Hannover 96 fans in Burnley today. Enjoy a safe visit. These fans create a party atmosphere which you may see in town today.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:06 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:exactly

If you're not searched, it's presumably bloody easy.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:06 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:exactly

Not to mention how you bring them in on a flight from Germany

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:08 pm

joey13 wrote:Not to mention how you bring them in on a flight from Germany

We have shops.

geopancake · Post by **geopancake** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:10 pm

They probably popped into Wilkinsons prior to the match to buy their weaponry.

Oops my response was a little tardy.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:12 pm

got to be said, for a club with known trouble makers, who were known to be travelling over for the game the security does seem to have been overlooked somewhat. They won't be coming back that's for sure. I Hope the club send them a bill for the seats, the tarpaulin, the policing and whatever other costs we have incurred.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:13 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:We have shops.

Really !

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:13 pm

Is there a second leg

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:15 pm

joey13 wrote:How do you get a knife into a football stadium ?

Simply walk through the turnstiles been doing it for years,not taking a knife on,but no one ever searches me,I'm old and decrepit though and couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag so I suppose they give me a bit of leeway.

Real ale 2 · Post by **Real ale 2** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:16 pm

Sadly the policing and stewarding was abysmal today ..with visiting supporters being allowed to do what they wanted ..a few token attempts at arresting Germans prior to the match was met with them just shrugging off the police officers and laughing at them..the omens weren't good as the early arrivals in the CFS . Wanted to hang their flags on the metal safety barrier at the front which for some reason the stewards were adamant about not doing ..these were the sensible fans and it clearly aggravated them..the hardcore arrived just before kick off carrying their beer and smoking in the stand then taking down the sheeting keeping fans from the pitch as nothing was done ..the police then virtually gave up standing at the front . then late in the first half a large number of the visiting fans charged towards the Clarets fans in the CFS ripping seats up..the decision to clear the CFS was probably the first one the police and stewards ground authorities got right. sadly it will be our clubs name and fans which will be tarnished

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:18 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:Is there a second leg

I don't think the violence was bad enough to warrant searching for limbs.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:19 pm

Any Burnley fans involved by taunting the Germans by chanting about the war deserve a season long ban. Same for those shown on video to be aggressively gesticulating. Our Club will now receive a huge amount of negative publicity.

If the decision to allow Burnley fans into the Cricket field stand is reversed, well you brought it on yourselves. Kn@bs

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:20 pm

"sadly it will be our clubs name and fans which will be tarnished" not sure why that should be so. The 5Live report seemed pretty clear about the Hannover fans being responsible. It's Hannover who UEFA will give an almighty bollocking to, not us.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:20 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:Is there a second leg

They'll get to that once they've re-attached the first.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:21 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Simply walk through the turnstiles been doing it for years,not taking a knife on,but no one ever searches me,I'm old and decrepit though and couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag so I suppose they give me a bit of leeway.

I take it you haven't been to the Emirates then

Real ale 2 · Post by **Real ale 2** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:22 pm

Love curry pies are you suggesting the Burnley fans provoked this?.. they were a long way away from the Germans and you hardly could hear them

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:23 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Any Burnley fans involved by taunting the Germans by chanting about the war deserve a season long ban. Same for those shown on video to be aggressively gesticulating. Our Club will now receive a huge amount of negative publicity.

If the decision to allow Burnley fans into the Cricket field stand is reversed, well you brought it on yourselves. Kn@bs

Utter rubbish

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:25 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Any Burnley fans involved by taunting the Germans by chanting about the war deserve a season long ban. Same for those shown on video to be aggressively gesticulating. Our Club will now receive a huge amount of negative publicity.

If the decision to allow Burnley fans into the Cricket field stand is reversed, well you brought it on yourselves. Kn@bs

Over react much ?
I was watching it on the Hannover stream and it's 100% clear that it was down to the Hannover fans.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:27 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Any Burnley fans involved by taunting the Germans by chanting about the war deserve a season long ban. Same for those shown on video to be aggressively gesticulating. Our Club will now receive a huge amount of negative publicity.

If the decision to allow Burnley fans into the Cricket field stand is reversed, well you brought it on yourselves. Kn@bs

you obviously werent there and witnessed nothing to speak such garbish

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:27 pm

Anyone that makes WW2 chants to provoke German should be banned purely for lacking imagination.

Real ale 2 · Post by **Real ale 2** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:27 pm

Nothing to do with Burnley fans in CFS this lot were out for trouble and caused it a more robust approach like the home fans would have been treated and were ,may have prevented much of the trouble

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:28 pm

What a fiasco. 350 Hanover fans max ran Lancashire constabulary ragged.
If that have had been English fans in any European country they would have been dealt with brutally.
Euro cops would have ran in and given the Germans a right good hiding, what our lot do is just stand there and take a good hiding, pathetic

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:30 pm

joey13 wrote:How do you get a knife into a football stadium ?

The usual method for knives and pyro ian between arse cheeks i hear

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:32 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Any Burnley fans involved by taunting the Germans by chanting about the war deserve a season long ban. Same for those shown on video to be aggressively gesticulating. Our Club will now receive a huge amount of negative publicity.

If the decision to allow Burnley fans into the Cricket field stand is reversed, well you brought it on yourselves. Kn@bs

Wow...... ever wished you'd not wrote something and pressed send?

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:34 pm

Not being in the Schengen zone (thank God) I hope the police will get passport details and photos that they can cross reference with CCTV and get the main scumbags banged up before they can leave the country.

I'm not in any way tolerant of our fans crude banter, which I can imagine was about wars and cups today. I detest it. However, I think most Germans understand the reasons much of the world gives them such stick even 70 years later, and anybody suggesting our fans are in any way to blame for today's trouble needs to get in the real world. This bunch appear to be hardcore criminals of the type you see following some clubs in Germany, Russia and others.

I'm just glad I didn't take my 5 year old on her first match today, which I nearly did.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:36 pm

Certainly Burnley fans where doing the bomber arm movements and the war chants, but I'm sure most Germans are perfectly used to that by now. Its not big, and its not clever, but it doesn't normally result in a blitzkreig across the cricket field.

Would really like to know why it all kicked off, and went so bad so quickly.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:37 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Certainly Burnley fans where doing the bomber arm movements and the war chants, but I'm sure most Germans are perfectly used to that by now. Its not big, and its not clever, but it doesn't normally result in a blitzkreig across the cricket field.

Would really like to know why it all kicked off, and went so bad so quickly.

Probably Brexit.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:38 pm

there's video on twitter of Clarets in the CF singing 10 German Bombers, pretty sad and as IT said pretty unimaginative.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:38 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:Wow...... ever wished you'd not wrote something and pressed send?

No, it had to be sad. Our Club's reputation will be tarnished. A few Burnley fans were involved. Other Burnley fans were on Twitter saying "give it a rest" (referring to the war references).

The Club has come a long, long way from the reputation we had in the 70's.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:39 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Certainly Burnley fans where doing the bomber arm movements and the war chants, but I'm sure most Germans are perfectly used to that by now. Its not big, and its not clever, but it doesn't normally result in a blitzkreig across the cricket field.

Would really like to know why it all kicked off, and went so bad so quickly.

Bit like the Russians in France last year, all pre-arranged at a particular time in the game

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:41 pm

Just read on FB they are running around causing bother on Manchester Road, no idea if its true though (internet rumours and all that)

Real ale 2 · Post by **Real ale 2** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:42 pm

LANCASTER Like a lot of football matches their are boundaries for behaviour ..fans test these rightly or wrongly and can escalate behaviour unless reigned in by fellow fans or the authorities sadly their was none of either today ..the match commander and whoever plans the match day stewarding got it hopelessly wrong that is not absolving the real culprits which was the hardcore element of Hannover fans

Sean Dyche's Watch · Post by **Sean Dyche's Watch** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:44 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Just read on FB they are running around causing bother on Manchester Road, no idea if its true though (internet rumours and all that)

the police helicopter is still out, circling over the town centre, it's been out since 4.20pm.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:48 pm

I'm 100% sure that this was organised from the German side if anyone is in any doubt.

Doesn't change the fact that bomber signals and singing about the war are bloody stupid in 2017 though

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:50 pm

Did we win then

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:50 pm

Anybody else think we looked a bit short that first half?

I hope we can get another pre-season game in.

Real ale 2 · Post by **Real ale 2** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:50 pm

1-0 Clarets

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:50 pm

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:the police helicopter is still out, circling over the town centre, it's been out since 4.20pm.

Blaze it.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:51 pm

Goalposts wrote:LOL

burnley police tweet from earlier in day

app-facebook
Burnley and Padiham Police
3 hours ago
Welcome to Hannover 96 fans in Burnley today. Enjoy a safe visit. These fans create a party atmosphere which you may see in town today.

Clueless idiots. Our police from what I witnessed today have turned into a bunch of political correct namby pansies. This lot should be sent back to Germany in a semi unconscious state and the only thing our lot do is form a line and take a pasting. The rest of Europe would have been wetting themselves if they saw how we dealt with a couple of hundred Germans.

Our stewards needed protecting and the police just let them take a beating.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:52 pm

100 percent record in Europe then this year.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:52 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Anybody else think we looked a bit short that first half?

I hope we can get another pre-season game in.

If we play like that next week we'll be 5-0 down at half time !

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:52 pm

for me it didn't look theta cork and westwood would work as a midfield pairing too similar

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:55 pm

not sure, I doubt very much that will be our starting 11 next week anyway

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:56 pm

Top Claret wrote:Clueless idiots. Our police from what I witnessed today have turned into a bunch of political correct namby pansies. This lot should be sent back to Germany in a semi unconscious state and the only thing our lot do is form a line and take a pasting. The rest of Europe would have been wetting themselves if they saw how we dealt with a couple of hundred Germans.

Our stewards needed protecting and the police just let them take a beating.

Agree 100%, the Police should have pepper sprayed and baton charged them........... and If the Police then let them out of the ground to wander around, then heads should roll

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:01 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:Is there a second leg

Been moved to a neutral ground for safety reasons.
2nd half to be completed at the
Türk Telekom Stadium
Where knives and bats with nails in are not considered a risk to H&S

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:03 pm

What has really p1ssed me off is how this lost 45 minutes will have affected Dyches plans for next season. Change of tactics positions personel etc etc.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:04 pm

"Hopefully they'll be escorted straight out of the country too."

That's the whole point. They knew full well the chances of being arrested and charged were minimal. The Dutch hooligans who are banned from attending domestic matches go abroad to get their "pleasure".

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:06 pm

bfcjg wrote:What has really p1ssed me off is how this lost 45 minutes will have affected Dyches plans for next season. Change of tactics popositions personel etc etc.

Poposition

= the proposition of a positional alteration towards a premiere league player

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:11 pm

the police have escorted them to the train station not sure where they are sending them