Refunds

[MACCA]

Trouble is, none of your 'opinions' are backed up by fact. Some of the cheapest season tickets in the Premier league, the club that in 2009 gave thousands of supporters free season tickets, one of the cheapest kits in Premier League. But no, the price of a Twix has gone up, the club is one of the most tight fisted in the country and continues to fleece fans! But despite the fact you got it very wrong on this issue and piled on the insults, no hint of any retraction of those demonstrably incorrect insults.

The club didn't give away thousands of free season tickets, it was an offer/incentive to drum up support at a time when attendances were dropping.
They then offered shares instead as the didn't want to lose out on the income season tickets sakes bring in ( after winning 60m on promotion)

They have "one of" the cheapest kits in the league, but I'd guess it's also the most generic kit in the country, I think that may have more to do with it than Mr Garlick and co thinking they'll keep them cheap to reward fans.

The premier league is awash with millions, many a club have rewarded fans with free/subsidised coach travel or tickets, give % off shirt prices, offer up money back for p1ss poor displays etc ( not that I want the club to do those , just that's what other do ) yet we even now charge for 11 kids to hold hands with the players for walking out, as well as constantly squeezing the price of snacks etc on the Turf up. Is that now 3 consecutive years? What are they hoping to achieve by pricing out the working class families?
They won't even accept a free pair off tickets if you can't make the game to give away, they wanted to sell them!
Then there was the phone line, yes really a club always looking out for fans...
They keep boasting about record profits, and continue to take.

Football was invented by and for the poor, but being stolen by the rich and greedy!

[martin_p]

The club didn't give away thousands of free season tickets, it was an offer/incentive to drum up support at a time when attendances were dropping.
They then offered shares instead as the didn't want to lose out on the income season tickets sakes bring in ( after winning 60m on promotion)

They have "one of" the cheapest kits in the league, but I'd guess it's also the most generic kit in the country, I think that may have more to do with it than Mr Garlick and co thinking they'll keep them cheap to reward fans.

The premier league is awash with millions, many a club have rewarded fans with free/subsidised coach travel or tickets, give % off shirt prices, offer up money back for p1ss poor displays etc ( not that I want the club to do those , just that's what other do ) yet we even now charge for 11 kids to hold hands with the players for walking out, as well as constantly squeezing the price of snacks etc on the Turf up. Is that now 3 consecutive years? What are they hoping to achieve by pricing out the working class families?
They won't even accept a free pair off tickets if you can't make the game to give away, they wanted to sell them!
Then there was the phone line, yes really a club always looking out for fans...
They keep boasting about record profits, and continue to take.

Football was invented by and for the poor, but being stolen by the rich and greedy!

Wow, some real ******** now! Revising history over the season ticket give away (shares were and option, every single season ticket holder from 2008/09 was entitled to a full refund in 2009/10 if they wanted it). And this 'generic kit' argument really is clutching at straws! Surely the most tight fisted club in the country would have a generic kit and charge more money? Besides, plenty of clubs in the Premier League use kit templates and charge more for their kits.

And putting up the price of snacks pricing out working class families?!! Did you even think about that before writing it. It's an insult to working class families to imply that they aren't intelligent enough to pick up snacks at half the price at other shops rather than be 'fleeced' by the club. And guess what, nobody forces anyone to have a snack on the ground anyway. You have the option to watch Premier League football pretty much cheaper than anywhere else in the country (don't buy a snack if the price offends you, I usually manage to go the couple of hours i'm in the ground without craving a Twix), but no, still the most tight fisted club in the country.

Oh and by the way, football in it's modern form was invented in public schools.

[MACCA]

Wow, some real ******** now! Revising history over the season ticket give away (shares were and option, every single season ticket holder from 2008/09 was entitled to a full refund in 2009/10 if they wanted it). And this 'generic kit' argument really is clutching at straws! Surely the most tight fisted club in the country would have a generic kit and charge more money? Besides, plenty of clubs in the Premier League use kit templates and charge more for their kits.

And putting up the price of snacks pricing out working class families?!! Did you even think about that before writing it. It's an insult to working class families to imply that they aren't intelligent enough to pick up snacks at half the price at other shops rather than be 'fleeced' by the club. And guess what, nobody forces anyone to have a snack on the ground anyway. You have the option to watch Premier League football pretty much cheaper than anywhere else in the country (don't buy a snack if the price offends you, I usually manage to go the couple of hours i'm in the ground without craving a Twix), but no, still the most tight fisted club in the country.

Oh and by the way, football in it's modern form was invented in public schools.

Clutching a straws by bringing up things from.the past? Again read my posts, and the reason I said my initial response, is because of my past experiences of Burnley and their tight fisted mentality.

I'm going round in circles here with you, so I'll change my opinion for you and join the happy train where all is well.

Burnley football club in my opinion are the most rewarding club in the country. They always seem to put the fans first, never cutting corners or look to exploit the fans.
They don't treat the fans as customers keeping prices of everything fair and in line with the local economy.
They are swift and efficient at dealing with any problems you may have with a handy free phone number for none local supporters.
They regularly go the extra mile even subsidising tickets or coach fair for long journey at awkward/costly times in the calendar year.

The incentives to get young fans into the club is second to none, with the offer of player walk ons and extremely reasonable mascot and kit packages.

They are very equal opportunity minded too, offering excellent disabled facilities all around the stadium.

Burnley football club get everything 100% correct, it's fantastic, long may it continue.

Utc!

[martin_p]

Clutching a straws by bringing up things from.the past? Again read my posts, and the reason I said my initial response, is because of my past experiences of Burnley and their tight fisted mentality.

I'm going round in circles here with you, so I'll change my opinion for you and joking the happy train where all is well.

Burnley football club in my opinion are the most rewarding club in the country. They always seem to put the fans first, never cutting corners or look to exploit the fans.
They don't treat the fans as customers keeping prices of everything fair and in line with the local economy.
They are swift and efficient at dealing with any problems you may have with a handy free phone number for none local supporters.
They regularly go the extra mile even subsidising tickets or coach fair for long journey at awkward/costly times in the calendar year.

The incentives to get young fans into the club is second to none, with the offer of player walk ons and extremely reasonable mascot and kit packages.

They are very equal opportunity minded too, offering excellent disabled facilities all around the stadium.

Burnley football club get everything 100% correct, it's fantastic, long may it continue.

Utc!

Ah, the old 'i'm nor arguing with you anymore', the usual phrase uttered when an argument can't be supported anymore. Don't worry, you're not gong round in circles, you've come to a dead end!

I thought it was pretty clear I've read your post as your assertion that Burnley are 'possible the most tight fisted club in the country' was the statement I was proving to be untrue.

[MACCA]

Ah, the old 'i'm nor arguing with you anymore', the usual phrase uttered when an argument can't be supported anymore.

That makes sense... possibly why every discussion/negotiation never comes to an end.

Like I said, you are correct. I and only I have or had any gripes with the way the club goes about things, and now I've changed all will be fandabbydozey.

But if not I'm sure you will as eager to tell the next person which opinions are right and wrong. I look forward to it.

Have a good day Martin.

[martin_p]

That makes sense... possibly why every discussion/negotiation never comes to an end.

Like I said, you are correct. I and only I have or had any gripes with the way the club goes about things, and now I've changed all will be fandabbydozey.

But if not I'm sure you will as eager to tell the next person which opinions are right and wrong. I look forward to it.

Have a good day Martin.

I will thank you.

[UpTheBeehole]

£33 + 121% = £72.93

You didn't do well at school did you, you permaknob?

[dsr]

You didn't do well at school did you, you permaknob?

Laughing at someone for getting it right doesn't make you look good.

121% of £33 is £39.93. And £33 + £39.93 is £72.93.

Thew sum isn't strictly relevant to the thread, but it's accurate.

[UpTheBeehole]

Laughing at someone for getting it right doesn't make you look good.

121% of £33 is £39.93. And £33 + £39.93 is £72.93.

Thew sum isn't strictly relevant to the thread, but it's accurate.

That wasn't what I was saying though was it?

I was saying that prices were 121% and 160% of what they were. I was correct, Dom wasn't.

He failed both comprehension and maths in one go.

[UpTheBeehole]

Increasing a ticket from £25 to £40 in 3 years isn't rewarding fans. There aren't many people in Burnley who've seen their wages increase to 160% of what they were on in May 2014.

Just to clarify for Dom and DSR's sake:

£25 * 160% = £40
£33 * 121% = £39.93

Average wage of £25k * 160% = £40,000

Why the hell have I just had to go through that just to show up the resident bores?

[dsr]

Just to clarify for Dom and DSR's sake:

£25 * 160% = £40
£33 * 121% = £39.93

Average wage of £25k * 160% = £40,000

Why the hell have I just had to go through that just to show up the resident bores?

We know you used 160% just to make the 60% increase from bottom end championship games to top end premier games sound particularly outrageous. It's a common statistical technique, just to make the number sound bigger. But the calculation you were laughing at was mathematically correct.

[UpTheBeehole]

It was the wrong calculation!

He could have said 2+2=4, which is mathematically correct, but is completely out of context, as Dom's was.

Why are you defending him? You and him seem to do this quite often. Gang up even when you're clearly in the wrong!

[dsr]

It was the wrong calculation!

He could have said 2+2=4, which is mathematically correct, but is completely out of context, as Dom's was.

Why are you defending him? You and him seem to do this quite often. Gang up even when you're clearly in the wrong!

I'm not defending Dom, who I dare say can defend himself, just suggesting (more or less politely) that:

1. Laughing at someone and calling them names if you think they've got something wrong is crass;
2. Laughing at someone and calling them names if you think they're stupid is cruel, unkind, bullying, unnecessary, and all sorts of wrong. What if you pick on someone who genuinely is stupid and has low self-esteem? Whether your general internet code is polite or abusive makes no difference to you, but it might to someone else.

[UpTheBeehole]

Claretdom cuts a rather vile persona on here, always trying to put people down with a sneer. This thread alone contains evidence of that. When he makes a mistake of course I'm going to jump on it, as are others, because he's not a nice guy.

[dsr]

Claretdom cuts a rather vile persona on here, always trying to put people down with a sneer. This thread alone contains evidence of that. When he makes a mistake of course I'm going to jump on it, as are others, because he's not a nice guy.

A race to the bottom, is it?

[Lord Beamish]

A race to the bottom, is it?

Two men in jail, looking through bars; one sees mud, the other stars.

[standishclarets]

Isn't it about time you all calmed down! The club are offering refunds. What happened wasn't down to the club. I won't be claiming - quite happy for this to go to local charities. What about you?

[Falcon]

I didn't attend the friendly, but if I had done I certainly would not be claiming a refund and taking money from the club for something entirely the fault of opposition fans.

I might take the charity option, but I'd probably just leave it.

[Damo]

I don't think the charity thing is an option. You either claim it or it goes to the charity.
Hopefully everyone leaves it to the charity.

[Lord Beamish]

I didn't attend the friendly, but if I had done I certainly would not be claiming a refund and taking money from the club for something entirely the fault of opposition fans.

I might take the charity option, but I'd probably just leave it.

I think 'just leaving it' is the Charity Option.

I think I might claim my money. It's £15 I can put towards something I promised my youngest from the Club Shop when we got off the match, only to find the place was closed on Police advice.

[Quickenthetempo]

Lots of look at me I'm giving to charity on this thread with a little pressure for others to follow.

Best to make your own decision for yourselves.