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Tarkowski

Post by Chuckypad » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:48 pm

Defending against Chelsea's 1st and 2nd goals - Discuss

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:50 pm

Chuckypad wrote:Defending against Chelsea's 1st and 2nd goals - Discuss
As in Chelsea, current premier league champions...?

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by joey13 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:51 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:As in Chelsea, current premier league champions...?
What's that got to do with it , he's not good enough

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by WestMidsClaret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:51 pm

Said on another thread! Ball watching.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by 1968claret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:53 pm

Yeah 3-2 up away at the champions and let's discuss the shortcomings of one of our own players! How sad.
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:53 pm

joey13 wrote:What's that got to do with it , he's not good enough
It's got everything to do with it. He's inexperienced against the premier league champions - still will be a great player for us, given a chance

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by joey13 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:53 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:It's got everything to do with it. He's inexperienced against the premier league champions - still will be a great player for us, given a chance
Can we just celebrate beating Chelsea
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Chuckypad » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:54 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:As in Chelsea, current premier league champions...?
I like the lad and think he's had a good game, but regardless of who we're playing, he can't ball watch like that

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:56 pm

joey13 wrote:Can we just celebrate beating Chelsea
That was a quick change of tune... I was defending him and trying to do that
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Rightfoot » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:56 pm

Need a replacement for Tarks - ball watching against 9 men, imagine if it were 11, yes lets celebrate but build on the win

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Jimscho » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:57 pm

Win against the champions and you have to have a whipping boy.
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Goalposts » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:58 pm

Chuckypad wrote:Defending against Chelsea's 1st and 2nd goals - Discuss

lol i can see why this is posted,,,only two mistakes he made in whole game

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Jimscho » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:58 pm

Usual suspects having a go.
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by CnBtruntru » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:58 pm

Bring on the Brom

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Chuckypad » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:59 pm

Rightfoot wrote:Need a replacement for Tarks - ball watching against 9 men, imagine if it were 11, yes lets celebrate but build on the win
He did well today and with a few more games with Mee he'll be bob on.
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:59 pm

Think joey13 forgot to change his username
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by ClaretEngineer » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:00 pm

First game of the season against the League Champions, who even with 9 men have more quality than we have. And who could have given us a real hiding had they not lost the plot. It's a good job we capitalised on their mistakes.

Tarkowski made errors yes, he will learn from this and he will get better now playing every week. You can only learn so much in training.
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by taffy » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:00 pm

Give the lad a chance , how many games has he played in this league,do you not think he will learn as he the season goes on
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by KateR » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:01 pm

Give it a rest, so much to celebrate and we get ridiculous posts like this :(
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by WestMidsClaret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:01 pm

He'll learn from playing in these sort of games but you're taught as a kid not to ball watch. Great result though!

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Right_winger » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:03 pm

Jimscho wrote:Win against the champions and you have to have a whipping boy.
What's your point? Nobodys making him a whipping boy but pointing out some costly mistakes or isn't that allowed on a footballing forum?

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Goalposts » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:03 pm

he made 2 mistakes , but other than that was excellent...the mistakes he made can be worked on and hopefully not repeated,,,bizarrely they may actually make him better
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by CombatClaret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:04 pm

Re: Chuckypad

Stupid post - Discuss

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:06 pm

Maybe Tarks will learn.
He could even get better.......

Oh, and by the way.
We've won.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Burt » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:07 pm

Fantastic day to be a Claret and some people can only dwell on the negatives, I bet you are a barrel of laughs at parties

Get a grip and celebrate, we have just beaten the league champions and are 3rd in the PL.

Oh forgot our 'rivals' just lost at home against Doncaster and are 3rd bottom in League One

These are fine times, they won't last forever, ENJOY!!!!!!!
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Il Duce » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:07 pm

He played well but his two mistakes cost us two goals. He'll learn from it.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by ewanrob » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:07 pm

Seem to remember same said about Keano...dropped for Duff. Big learning curve for the lad...Boden giving him lots of plaudits for his 1st half display.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by boiledclaret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:07 pm

Not helped by the fact that we dropped deep, panicked and gave the ball away too much. Oh but wait it was Chelsea at the Bridge :? I've heard they can play a bit. :roll:

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:08 pm

Tarks was outstanding apart from the two lapses in concentration - clearly something he needs to eradicate sharply because he has the makings of a top drawer centre half.
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by IndigoLake » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:08 pm

Tarkowski did a lot right today. Let's also keep that in mind. Made a particularly vital block in the first half. He didn't get much of a run of games last season. Hopefully he will this season and he'll get better and better. However, we do need to keep improving the squad. So I want Shawcross or Dawson. Dawson is unlikely, in my opinion though.
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by CHEWBACCA » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:08 pm

From what I saw he hade a decent game but missed the last 20 minutes .

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by CombatClaret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:11 pm

Also,
Keane wasn't built in a day.

So shhhh!

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by dermotdermot » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:13 pm

His contributions were being lauded throughout most of the game especially in the first half when playing against eleven men. It was a long game. Twists and turns. We won. The idiots giving him flak should hold their heads in shame.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Marlonspants » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:14 pm

You have to be a special kind of Dick to look for a negative in today's result.
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by 1968claret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:15 pm

Right_winger wrote:What's your point? Nobodys making him a whipping boy but pointing out some costly mistakes or isn't that allowed on a footballing forum?
Of course it is, but maybe a number of us find it strange that whilst we are beating the champions away from home, the OPs first thought is to start a thread criticising one of our players.
Some people will clearly never be happy.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Melbourneclaret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:15 pm

Ridiculous thread. Tarkowski played well for the vast majority of the game. Well done lad. He'll get better with more games with Mee under his belt

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by joey13 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:16 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Think joey13 forgot to change his username
Meaning?

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by joey13 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:17 pm

dermotdermot wrote:His contributions were being lauded throughout most of the game especially in the first half when playing against eleven men. It was a long game. Twists and turns. We won. The idiots giving him flak should hold their heads in shame.
He cost us two goals , so people not allowed to say

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Rumbletonk » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:18 pm

Switched off for both goals and it's happened too many times to ignore. He just needs a run off games and a Dyche word. He'll come good. That said, wahooooooooooo!!!

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by KlyBfc » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:19 pm

Didn't watch it and so hard to comment on his role in the goals though he sounded to play well according to Clarets Player.

Even if he is at fault, people should remember Ben Mee played very well in many games last year yet had lapses in concentration which cost us goals. He did however almost eradicate those instances by the end of the season and hopefully Tarks will be given the chance and do the same.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by dermotdermot » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:19 pm

joey13 wrote:He cost us two goals , so people not allowed to say
But he saved umpteen others, numbskull!
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:20 pm

I think whilst we rightly celebrate there were some concerning signs with Tarks. He, like the team was outstanding in the first half, not so much in the second. Ignoring the goals I was more alarmed that David Luiz got away from Tarks on every single set piece, he has to sharpen up and hopefully that will come with experience. We'll know soon enough what the manager thinks if he brings in another CB. Bit harsh to nail the OP, it's a perfectly valid discussion

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by CnBtruntru » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:22 pm

Have to say when the lad Morata came on he is like a bloody whippet and he is a big unit as well, there are a lot of teams going to struggle more than us once he is fully fit. 2 mistakes doesn't mean the hang man's noose tha knows.
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Right_winger » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:24 pm

1968claret wrote:Of course it is, but maybe a number of us find it strange that whilst we are beating the champions away from home, the OPs first thought is to start a thread criticising one of our players.
Some people will clearly never be happy.
The OP didn't criticise Tarks though. Mearly left an open ended question to create discussion.

For what it's worth I thought Tarks played well today by and large. He did get caught twice though costing 2 goals and Iv no problem saying so.

Fantastic victory and sets us up nicely for the next game.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:25 pm

Making mistakes is not the end of the world.

As long as you learn from them.

The man that makes no mistakes. Usually makes nothing at all.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by joey13 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:26 pm

dermotdermot wrote:But he saved umpteen others, numbskull!
Well done , keep it civil, how old are you 12

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:26 pm

I suspect Dyche will be drilling them this week in readiness for next weeks bombardment !

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Long Time Lurker » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:32 pm

In the first half he did really well, a couple of blips in the second half, but give him his dues this was a mountain of a game and towards the end a true test of character in the face of nerves. Chelsea came alive again in the second half and bringing on Morata (albeit an unfit Morata) provided them with a very dangerous cutting edge.

For his part Mee didn't hesitate to welcome Morata to the league :)

I think I crapped enough bricks for Barnfields to build us a new stadium and I can't begin to imagine how the lads must have been feeling. I think Tarks did a commendable job for us today, quite a few positives, some pointers towards things he can work on and under the circumstances a respectable display. More match time and experience will only make him even better, but I still think we need to add another defender to our roster even if it is only to provide cover for the unforeseeable.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by dermotdermot » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:34 pm

joey13 wrote:Can we just celebrate beating Chelsea
You make a post like this when, at the same time, you're the main protagonist against Tarkowski? Do you suffer from some sort of split personality.
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by 1968claret » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:34 pm

Melbourneclaret wrote:Ridiculous thread. Tarkowski played well for the vast majority of the game. Well done lad. He'll get better with more games with Mee under his belt
If Mee was under his belt, no wonder he lost concentration :o
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