Sir Mo Farah

[tim_noone]

I don't make the rules 'melting pot' refers to Britain being divided into 4.Scottish welsh Irish and English. Born in Burnley I'm a Lancastrian English man.and live in England which is in Great Britain.

[TVC15]

I don't make the rules 'melting pot' refers to Britain being divided into 4.Scottish welsh Irish and English. Born in Burnley I'm a Lancastrian English man.and live in England which is in Great Britain.

Ignorance really is bliss eh.

[tim_noone]

Ignorance really is bliss eh.

It's not your fault.

[HelloHiGoodbye]

I don't make the rules 'melting pot' refers to Britain being divided into 4.Scottish welsh Irish and English. Born in Burnley I'm a Lancastrian English man.and live in England which is in Great Britain.

You mean Little Britain, surely?

[tim_noone]

You mean Little Britain, surely?

No I mean Great Britain ..

[TVC15]

It's not your fault.

Have you seriously never heard the term melting pot and its racist connotations ?

And yes you are making up your own rules !

[bfccrazy]

Have you seriously never heard the term melting pot and its racist connotations ?

I've always thought this term was just used to describe somewhere a lot of cultures blend together/coexist. Always hear NYC described as "the melting pot".

I'm genuinely curious as to the racist connotations associated with it as it's a term I've used and never known it t mean anything different.

[TVC15]

I've always thought this term was just used to describe somewhere a lot of cultures blend together/coexist. Always hear NYC described as "the melting pot".

I'm genuinely curious as to the racist connotations associated with it as it's a term I've used and never known it t mean anything different.

Google it....you should find plenty.

[bfccrazy]

Google it....you should find plenty.

I did and I'm just getting that it means what I thought it did....... even from the usually weird and wonderful urban dictionary definition.

[tim_noone]

Have you seriously never heard the term melting pot and its racist connotations ?

And yes you are making up your own rules !

Explain where I'm making my own rules? Racist connotations are of no concern to me.i thought this thred was about mo being British? Which he is.hes Somalian first as I am English first. Are we agreed? If not I can't add anything further.

[martin_p]

Explain where I'm making my own rules? Racist connotations are of no concern to me.i thought this thred was about mo being British? Which he is.hes Somalian first as I am English first. Are we agreed? If not I can't add anything further.

Nah, you're European first, you were born in Europe.

[tim_noone]

I've always thought this term was just used to describe somewhere a lot of cultures blend together/coexist. Always hear NYC described as "the melting pot".

I'm genuinely curious as to the racist connotations associated with it as it's a term I've used and never known it t mean anything different.

My points exactly.

[TVC15]

The rules you are making are saying he is "Somalian first" in the same way you are English first.

Just because you say it a few times does not mean its a fact. He is a British citizen and he considers himself to be from London so in that respect he is English "first" just like you.

He was born in Somalia.

Those are the facts...its really not that difficult to understand unless like I say you choose to complicate it with your own views as to what you think it should be.

[bfccrazy]

I've found something on a Florida professor banning it in her class as her personal view was that it shouldn't be a celebrated term ....... But not finding anything which shows this as a racist term,

[bfccrazy]

The rules you are making are saying he is "Somalian first" in the same way you are English first.

Just because you say it a few times does not mean its a fact. He is a British citizen and he considers himself to be from London so in that respect he is English "first" just like you.

He was born in Somalia.

Those are the facts...its really not that difficult to understand unless like I say you choose to complicate it with your own views as to what you think it should be.

Sorry to be a pain but any chance you could point me where to look about the melting pot thing as I really am curious about it.

[tim_noone]

Nah, you're European first, you were born in Europe.

That's a fair point. Yes I was born in Burnley Lancashire England GB &Europe.thanks. I am an English man. I didn't make the rules.

[HelloHiGoodbye]

Explain where I'm making my own rules? Racist connotations are of no concern to me.i thought this thred was about mo being British? Which he is.hes Somalian first as I am English first. Are we agreed? If not I can't add anything further.

Mo Farah has been influenced more by British culture than Somalian culture. He has lived here longer than there. Sure, he is Somalian, Somalian heritage, but it's purely false to say he is Somalian first and British second. It just makes no sense.

British doesn't just mean white and British doesn't just mean people like you. And thank **** for that.

[martin_p]

That's a fair point. Yes I was born in Burnley Lancashire England GB &Europe.thanks. I am an English man. I didn't make the rules.

No, you're a European man. I didn't make the rules either.

[TVC15]

Sorry to be a pain but any chance you could point me where to look about the melting pot thing as I really am curious about it.

The first six lines of Melting Pot: ‘Take a pinch of white man, wrap him up in black skin, add a touch of blue blood and a little bitty bit of Red Indian boy. Curly Latin kinkies, mixed with yellow Chinkees...’

[No Ney Never]

You've been anything but clear really though. I'd like to know how you determine someone's nationality. You've piqued my interest.

I could be blunt and infer from what you've said but I'd rather you just spit it out.

Well maybe that's what you should have asked. Scroll up and read your question again.
As for your inference, maybe you ought to be blunt and 'spit it out'.

[HelloHiGoodbye]

Well maybe that's what you should have asked. Scroll up and read your question again.
As for your inference, maybe you ought to be blunt and 'spit it out'. Despite what the current rules state in qualifying for nationality, in my opinion Mo is Somalian.
Kevin Pietersen moved to England and played county cricket before going on to represent the England international cricket team, is he British? No, he's African.

What do you consider to determine someone's nationality?

[tim_noone]

The rules you are making are saying he is "Somalian first" in the same way you are English first.

Just because you say it a few times does not mean its a fact. He is a British citizen and he considers himself to be from London so in that respect he is English "first" just like you.

He was born in Somalia.

Those are the facts...its really not that difficult to understand unless like I say you choose to complicate it with your own views as to what you think it should be.

Because I say it a few times doesn't mean it's fact.but what you say is fact.ok

[TVC15]

Because I say it a few times doesn't mean it's fact.but what you say is fact.ok

Even No Nay Never is accepting its a fact that Mo Farah is British - but he disagrees with the current definition - so he has made his own definition based on his views (and clearly yours).

And now he's edited his own post to leave that bit out !

[bfccrazy]

The first six lines of Melting Pot: ‘Take a pinch of white man, wrap him up in black skin, add a touch of blue blood and a little bitty bit of Red Indian boy. Curly Latin kinkies, mixed with yellow Chinkees...’

Learn something new every day.

I never knew the word originated from a book of the same name til I googled it earlier. Seems to be a term heavily used in journalism etc still.

[No Ney Never]

Even No Nay Never is accepting its a fact that Mo Farah is British - but he disagrees with the current definition (or what the "state says") - so he has made his own definition based on his views (and clearly yours).

And now he's edited his own post to leave that bit out !

I don't accept that Mo is British but I do disagree with what are currently the rules used to define British. I've never given a definition, just my opinion.

[HelloHiGoodbye]

I don't accept that Mo is British but I do disagree with what are currently the rules used to define British. I've never given a definition, just my opinion.

What are your rules to define British? I've asked three times now, genuinely interested.

[TVC15]

Learn something new every day.

I never knew the word originated from a book of the same name til I googled it earlier. Seems to be a term heavily used in journalism etc still.

At least Alan Partridge made it sound funny !

[TVC15]

I don't accept that Mo is British but I do disagree with what are currently the rules used to define British. I've never given a definition, just my opinion.

The fact that you don`t accept it means that you clearly do have your own definition....opinions, definitions - just semantics really.

If you have made up your own mind what does NOT constitute being British...then surely you do have your own criteria for what you do believe constitutes being British ?

Being born in Britain sounds like its one of your criteria - is that correct ?

If so if someone was born in Britain but was from say Asian parents who had just arrived in this country a couple of months ago after spending their lives in India do you consider that person to be British ?....or does it depend how long he or she decides to remain in Britain ?

[tim_noone]

The first six lines of Melting Pot: ‘Take a pinch of white man, wrap him up in black skin, add a touch of blue blood and a little bitty bit of Red Indian boy. Curly Latin kinkies, mixed with yellow Chinkees...’

Why stop at the first six lines? Dont you recognise the lyrics of a great big loving machine Great song. why omit that line?

[No Ney Never]

The wider question of my opinion on what constitutes British is going to have to wait, flights from hell on channel 4 is on. We'll have to engage in this one at another time.

[HelloHiGoodbye]

The wider question of my opinion on what constitutes British is going to have to wait, flights from hell on channel 4 is on. We'll have to engage in this one at another time.

Somehow, I thought you'd shirk it...

[TVC15]

Why stop at the first six lines? Dont you recognise the lyrics of a great big loving machine Great song. why omit that line?

Because it was after the 6th line that the radio stations had to stop the record realising it was no longer 1974 and that Love Thy Neighbour was not that funny now !

[tim_noone]

Mo Farah has been influenced more by British culture than Somalian culture. He has lived here longer than there. Sure, he is Somalian, Somalian heritage, but it's purely false to say he is Somalian first and British second. It just makes no sense.

British doesn't just mean white and British doesn't just mean people like you. And thank **** for that.

'British doesnt just mean white? You have lost your way.

[TVC15]

The wider question of my opinion on what constitutes British is going to have to wait, flights from hell on channel 4 is on. We'll have to engage in this one at another time.

Nah....it ok - i don`t really give a flying f-uck what your opinion on what constitutes being British is - i`ve got enough of a "feel" already.

[yTib]

threads like this always make me cringe.

but at least they show us who is nasty and stupid.

as if we didn't already know x

[Tall Paul]

The wider question of my opinion on what constitutes British is going to have to wait, flights from hell on channel 4 is on. We'll have to engage in this one at another time.

Your opinion is irrelevant. There is a definition enshrined in law.

[HelloHiGoodbye]

threads like this always make me cringe.

but at least they show us who is nasty and stupid.

as if we didn't already know x

Seems like there's a thread a day which exposes another new xenophobe.

[cricketfieldclarets]

I've always thought this term was just used to describe somewhere a lot of cultures blend together/coexist. Always hear NYC described as "the melting pot".

I'm genuinely curious as to the racist connotations associated with it as it's a term I've used and never known it t mean anything different.

Honestly wouldnt ever imagine or know that melting pot was racist. Have used this term myself many times to describe places.

[tim_noone]

Because it was after the 6th line that the radio stations had to stop the record realising it was no longer 1974 and that Love Thy Neighbour was not that funny now !

1970. Anyhow we will leave it there you and your oppo are obviously trying to stir up a bit of racism to the thred.for the record ive lived,and still eat in stoneyholme.and have resided in the melting pots of ladbroke grove and newham for a number of years.quite happily.your assumtions are very wide of the mark.Im watching utopia now on bbc 4.if thats ok with you and your freind.

[TVC15]

1970. Anyhow we will leave it there you and your oppo are obviously trying to stir up a bit of racism to the thred.for the record ive lived,and still eat in stoneyholme.and have resided in the melting pots of ladbroke grove and newham for a number of years.quite happily.your assumtions are very wide of the mark.Im watching utopia now on bbc 4.if thats ok with you and your freind.

its 1969 actually !!.....1974 was a reference to Love thy Neighbour and programmes of that ilk.

thanks for telling us all where you live and still eat.....that changes things completely !

Best of British....and by the way its "you and your friend" No Nay Never that appear to be tin he minority in this thread.

[tim_noone]

its 1969 actually !!.....1974 was a reference to Love thy Neighbour and programmes of that ilk.

thanks for telling us all where you live and still eat.....that changes things completely !

Best of British....and by the way its "you and your friend" No Nay Never that appear to be tin he minority in this thread.

What as love thy neighbour got to do with anything.

[TVC15]

What as love thy neighbour got to do with anything.

This is like when my kids used to ask "why ?" after every answer I gave them....I was nice and patient as they were only 5 years old !

It was once "acceptable" in about the mid 1970s to use language like that used in Love thy Neighbour. Just like it was acceptable during that time to play the lyrics of Melting Pot on the radio.

By the late 70s it stopped being acceptable - for your information it's 2017 now.

[Tall Paul]

This is like when my kids used to ask "why ?" after every answer I gave them....I was nine and patient as they were only 5 years old !

It was once "acceptable" in about the mid 1970s to use language like that used in Love thy Neighbour. Just like it was acceptable during that time to play the lyrics of Melting Pot on the radio.

By the late 70s it stopped being acceptable - for your information it's 2017 now.

Your children were born when you were four?

[tim_noone]

Mmmm....is that your aim to determine who is the minority.a very bigoted view.

[claptrappers_union]

He also doesn't want to be known as MO any more.....................we have to call him Mohammed now.............

Just a matter of time before he says he doesn't want to be knows as a British citizen any more.

I don't know why any of this annoys you? Did you get mad at Andrew Cole too.

Why do you care if he is a British Citizen or not?

Being British is crap by way, I'm British and I hate it, I wish I came out of my mums minge somewhere else instead.

[tim_noone]

Your children were born when you were four?

Its allowed in his world maybe. Dont question it,

[TVC15]

Mmmm....is that your aim to determine who is the minority.a very bigoted view.

WTF does that mean ?

I said you were in the minority in this thread with your views as to what constitutes being British - and thank f-uck for that.

Eh but you have lived and eaten in Stoneyholme - so it's all ok.

[TVC15]

Its allowed in his world maybe. Dont question it,

I made one auto correct spelling mistake. You might want to have a look at your own posts - not exactly the sharpest tool in the box are we ?

Given you are so British do you care to translate the below :

How many spelling / grammar mistakes can one person make in one paragraph ?

"1970. Anyhow we will leave it there you and your oppo are obviously trying to stir up a bit of racism to the thred.for the record ive lived,and still eat in stoneyholme.and have resided in the melting pots of ladbroke grove and newham for a number of years.quite happily.your assumtions are very wide of the mark.Im watching utopia now on bbc 4.if thats ok with you and your freind."

[tim_noone]

I made one auto correct spelling mistake. You might want to have a look at your own posts - not exactly the sharpest tool in the box are we ?

No i dont think you are....and theres a lot of abuse in your posts you obviously have a lot of issues going on.if you cant say anything nice dont say anything.your a very angry chap.

[TVC15]

It's "you're"

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