Nahki Wells

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:55 pm

Inchy wrote:So you agree we still need pace upfront?

What i think and what the club do are 2 different things . I think signing wells is a panic buy because we was struggling to get a work permit for waris and didnt want to pay big money for other players . Wells isnt the signing i would of gone for i would of thought he would end up at preston or leeds decent championship player . Lets see if he can cut it at the top level my guess is he wont but lets wait and see .

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:55 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Doesn't Wells have pace?

He did, but it turns out somebody has screwed his ankle together which is probably going to slow ANYONE down!

snapcrackleandpop · Post by **snapcrackleandpop** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:56 pm

If he signs I hope he doesn't read this board, he will be looking for a bottle of whiskey and a pack of paracetamol if he does.
Ridiculous.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:57 pm

claretspice wrote:I would agree weve strengthened the squad - save at centre back where we're walking a tight rope. Elsewhere, there's plenty of padding there now.

But i said the test was to strengthen both squad and first eleven. And the first eleven is now weaker. Even if you accept Gray for Wood is a straight swap, Cork does not entirely offset the fact Tarks isnt in the same class as Keane, and across the board weve lost our two quickest players from last season and failed to replace that pace.

Why does not having the same pace we had last season make us a weaker team. Not being able to lump the ball over the top and hope that Gray catches it has meant we've actually looked to retain possession, pass it around and craft chances. And let's not forget that we haven't played just anyone in the first three games!

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:58 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Didn't he say yesterday there was nothing in the link to Wells?

Yes he did and i also said on another thread we would sign wells and shawcross looks like i got one right not sure about the other one

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:58 pm

Perhaps we just have to accept that one of the drawbacks of employing an English manager, who has not coached or managed abroad and built up a list of overseas contacts, is that we are severely restricted during transfer windows to almost solely the English market. Sean Dyche seems to place great store in players that he knows and trusts. Our overseas recruitment department (if such a thing even exists) is completely ineffective it seems.

Not suggesting for one moment that we should replace Sean Dyche by the way.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:00 pm

Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Barton Hendrick Brady
Vokes Gray

vs

Heaton
Lowton Tark Mee Ward
Brady Cork Hendrick Defour JBG
Wood

I think there's little between those two starting elevens, and I'd have to say that the current line up shades it for me. Our signings have enabled us to play a different way which is likely to get the best out of players like Brady and Defour. We've also undoubtedly strengthened our squad.

I'm not enthused about Wells - he's a very underwhelming signing but he adds something different to the squad so I'm happy to see how that pans out. Ideally I would like to see an upgrade to JBG and I feel it's essential that we bring in another centre back. It's starting to look unlikely that we will but the last day of the transfer window tends to throw up some surprises.

Either way I personally think we have a stronger starting 11 and a stronger depth of squad than last season. Although there is undoubtedly less 'real pace'.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:05 pm

So weve spent an entire transfer window scouring the market for a pacy fwd and end up with crock wells unbelievable jef lol

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:08 pm

Safron wrote:So weve spent an entire transfer window scouring the market for a pacy fwd and end up with crock wells unbelievable jef lol

558 posts and I think that kind of sums up the mood overall. (with odd exceptions)

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:09 pm

kentonclaret wrote:Perhaps we just have to accept that one of the drawbacks of employing an English manager, who has not coached or managed abroad and built up a list of overseas contacts, is that we are severely restricted during transfer windows to almost solely the English market. Sean Dyche seems to place great store in players that he knows and trusts. Our overseas recruitment department (if such a thing even exists) is completely ineffective it seems.

Not suggesting for one moment that we should replace Sean Dyche by the way.

That's why you employ good scouts

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:09 pm

If he scores one goal and it wins us 3 points
He was worth it

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:11 pm

claretspice wrote:Weve done fine - as Hull had at this time last season. So now was the time to kick on. Weve not done it.

So who are you replacing in our starting eleven of
Heaton
Lowton Tarks Mee Ward
JBG Hendrick Defour Cork Brady
Vokes or Wood
The only one I would replace is probably JBG.Maybe play Wells Walters or Arfield there to play more behind striker.

I think we need backup at CB.
I don't think that team is worse than what we finished with in May last year as you said.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:14 pm

Wells would be a very underwhelming signing in my opinion, particularly when compared to other players we've been linked to. And this is coming from someone who has almost always backed signings made by Sean Dyche. Regardless, I'll support him and hope he proves the many doubters wrong.

I just feel that this is a fantastic opportunity for us to push on and really improve on last season - I'm unconvinced that Nakhi Wells can help us do this. I'll watch tomorrow's transfer window deadline day with interest. Hopefully a CB (at the very least) will follow. Not going to get my hopes up though.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:14 pm

Burnley trying to sign a pacey player with real quality

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:16 pm

i don't see this as improving the squad, however prepared to give the lad a season, though it doesn't make great sense to me , i am assuming it does to Sean who knows more than me

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:17 pm

MDWat wrote:This isn't a good signing and Spice is spot on. The chairman said we'd be stronger after this window. We are not stronger in either starting eleven or squad.

Apart from Keane (Tarkowski did brilliantly against Spurs btw), who else leaving has made us weaker?

Our midfield is streets ahead of what it was at the start of last season.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:22 pm

The point is the team needs to be better year on year. Cork is a massive plus partly because it allows defour to start. Wood is probably going to replace vokesy over time. Wells does not and never could replace gray. I am very happy with tarks. I will be gobsmacked if no one comes into to cover tarks. Taylor is a great signing. The rest are squadfillers. Overall we have not moved forwards and have a massive drypowder store. Can't make any sense of it overall.

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:23 pm

I suppose the question is, is Wells any better than:

Players who he would be competing with to get in the team
Wood
Barnes
Vokes
Walters

Better than similar style of players we've had over the last 7-8 years
Ings
Austin
Rodriguez
Gray

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:31 pm

Ric_C wrote:I suppose the question is, is Wells any better than:

Players who he would be competing with to get in the team
Wood
Barnes
Vokes
Walters

Better than similar style of players we've had over the last 7-8 years
Ings
Austin
Rodriguez
Gray

erm....no.

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:33 pm

Does he add to the first 11? We don't know yet but it's a reasonable discussion to be had.

However as for the argument that he doesn't improve the squad don't see that at all. He's different to what we have and assuming no-one leaves tomorrow we have depth and options in forward positions - Wood, Vokes, Barnes, Walters - even Agyei all have quite similar attributes with variations in quality - none of them are anything like Wells.

We might not see that much of him but if we either choose or are forced to go 4-4-2 (lack of bodies in CM) then we become a lot less predictable than any combination of the other 4/5. That's not to say we become more effective, Wood and Barnes did a good job on Sunday, but as we found out last season it gets harder after Christmas, other teams work you out. Last time out there was not a lot we could do about it because we didn't have the personnel or the variation. So with that in mind, coupled with the obvious difficulties encountered with Andone and Waris, you can see the logic of this signing.

Ightenclaret · Post by **Ightenclaret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:34 pm

Hormone Replacement Therapy works.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:35 pm

Summit what makes you so sure Wells won't be as good or better than Gray.
Gray isent exactly setting the trail ablaze at Watford.
I think he will work with Vokes/Wood really well
Have faith.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:37 pm

Ric_C wrote:I suppose the question is, is Wells any better than:

Players who he would be competing with to get in the team
Wood
Barnes
Vokes
Walters

Better than similar style of players we've had over the last 7-8 years
Ings
Austin
Rodriguez
Gray

Why does he have to be better than any of those players who no longer play for Burnley, or better than other players who have different roles at Burnley?

PWBFC · Post by **PWBFC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:39 pm

Blyclaret wrote:If he scores one goal and it wins us 3 points
He was worth it

Not if he plays the other remaining 34 games and does nothing!

BigAlClaret · Post by **BigAlClaret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:39 pm

We're always being told on here about Sean Dyche's skills in man-management and his ability to get more from a player and realise their potential than other managers.Maybe Nahki Wells is the latest beneficiary of this talent.No guarantees of course but you never know just how good any signing is going to be no matter how much they cost.I for one would love to see a winning goal by him against Huddersfield in a few weeks.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:43 pm

I'm not sure why anyone thinks we're looking for anything else other than a squad player. All indications are that we're going with one up front this season. That'll be Bokes with Wood likely to replace him as first choice all being well. Wells is just a 'mix it up a bit' sub, as would any other striker we brought in at this stage.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:44 pm

PWBFC wrote:Not if he plays the other remaining 34 games and does nothing!

He won't, he'll be a sub.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:46 pm

BigAlClaret wrote:We're always being told on here about Sean Dyche's skills in man-management and his ability to get more from a player and realise their potential than other managers.Maybe Nahki Wells is the latest beneficiary of this talent.No guarantees of course but you never know just how good any signing is going to be no matter how much they cost.I for one would love to see a winning goal by him against Huddersfield in a few weeks.

I doubt we will see much of him for a couple of months

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:47 pm

I'm going to stop being negetive now. Although I believe we could have done a lot better in this window I am confident we have a team capable of staying up. If he signs Wells deserves his chance to show what he can do under Dyche.

UTC

PWBFC · Post by **PWBFC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:47 pm

martin_p wrote:He won't, he'll be a sub.

I'm sure that's correct. Just pointing out that one goal may not be enough to justify the outlay or place in the squad (at the expense of somebody else).

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:48 pm

The more I think about this deal the more I think it won't happen. I think we are using Wells to add pressure on another target.

Its either that, or buying Wells is the equivalent of spotting a good deal on AA Batteries while queuing at the supermarket checkout. You don't need them at the moment but it'll be handy to have around in when you need them.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:48 pm

There's 36 hours to go so things could change.

But as it stands, for the second time in three years, we stand to make a profit of tens of millions of pounds.

That money should be on the pitch. Pure and simple.

If we go down, I will take no pride in having the healthiest bank balance in the Championship.

And for clarification, I am not talking about betting the ranch or anything like that. There is literally no sense in making that kind of profit in football, particularly at our level where we don't have investors and shareholders to answer to.

We worked so bloody hard last year to stay up. Garlick came out with some, what appears now to be absolute guff, at the start of the summer. For whatever reason, be it caution in the boardroom or narrow mindedness in our recruitment I feel we've made a stutter step under the Dyche regime.

I hope I'm wrong.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:49 pm

It's getting quieter on here now think I'll have to spice it up with a rumour Barnes is leaving when Wells signs.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:49 pm

But how many subs can a team name these days? We've got bloody hundreds of them!

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:50 pm

Frankly speaking also ...... I'm less concerned about getting another striker when we have a gaping hole at centre-half.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:51 pm

If memory serves, before we were in for Gray, we looked at Wells also and at that time I would have been happy having a punt on him as a first eleven striker.

Thing is, I don't think we're necessarily looking for a first eleven striker anymore, we have options there, what we're looking for is someone we can utilise to change our attacking options for different opposition and I do believe Wells will offer that.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:51 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:But how many subs can a team name these days? We've got bloody hundreds of them!

I remember when the complaint was that we have no depth. Now the complaint is that we have too much depth.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:55 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I remember when the complaint was that we have no depth. Now the complaint is that we have too much depth.

Point taken IT, but I'm seriously wondering IF (let's say) Wood starts up front in a 4-5-1 as seems the likely way we'll go, then all of Vokes, Barnes, Walters AND wells would expect to be named on the bench. After the back up goalie has been added that doesn't leave much space for other positions/options.

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:56 pm

Marney, Hendrick and Walters all injured at the moment - the squad's hardly bloated.

One of the few things which seems to be agreed by most on here is that we have a much stronger bench this season.

PremierLeagueClass · Post by **PremierLeagueClass** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:00 pm

I always try to be positive and upbeat about our club but I can't pretend I'm not very disappointed by this. When I look at some of the players our rivals are signing today, it just shows we are operating in a different world.

We are so lucky to have a manager that gets the absolute best out of his players but the sad reality seems to be that unless we receive significant investment, our premier league status is not sustainable.

HOWEVER... Dyche has earned the trust of every Burnley fan on the planet. We should accept the financial realities we face and celebrate that this is the best position we have been in for over half a century. Plus, the longer we can remain in the premier league, the more likely we are to attract outside investment.

If this is the man Dyche has identified to improve the group, so be it. I'm willing to accept he knows better than me or anyone else.

Welcome Nakhi Wells!

Marlonspants · Post by **Marlonspants** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:02 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Burnley trying to sign a pacey player with real quality

You've posted nowt but crap all day.

Go and support someone else (an American team maybe) if you are so upset by how Burnley FC have handled the transfer window.

Morrisminor · Post by **Morrisminor** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:02 pm

Has anyone heard if he has had the screw removed from his anckle. Its has been reported that he will shortly have to have it removed

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:03 pm

Morrisminor wrote:Has anyone heard if he has had the screw removed from his anckle. Its has been reported that he will shortly have to have it removed

At that point his foot could bloody fall off!!!

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:18 pm

Has anybody questioned his character yet , certainly lead Huddersfield a merry dance , and has been told he isn't wanted , but why would we sign an injured player

Paranoid · Post by **Paranoid** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:20 pm

Nearly 600 responses! has he signed yet?

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:24 pm

£10m for wells? Really?!

Another 7-8m would probably get Andone, who is a much better player than Wells, will have a much bigger sell on value than him too. Take the gamble Burnley!!

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:24 pm

joey13 wrote:Has anybody questioned his character yet , certainly lead Huddersfield a merry dance , and has been told he isn't wanted , but why would we sign an injured player

In fairness I believe Tarks was more than a bit stroppy with Brentford once he decided he was off and forced the move. And his attitude hasn't been a problem.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:25 pm

summitclaret wrote:The point is the team needs to be better year on year. Cork is a massive plus partly because it allows defour to start. Wood is probably going to replace vokesy over time. Wells does not and never could replace gray. I am very happy with tarks. I will be gobsmacked if no one comes into to cover tarks. Taylor is a great signing. The rest are squadfillers. Overall we have not moved forwards and have a massive drypowder store. Can't make any sense of it overall.

I don't know whether you intended it, but you make squad fillers sound like a dirty word.
SD has said from the beginning of the window that improving the squad was just as important as buying starters. The benefit of that we saw at Deadwood last week. Those squad fillers could be the difference between relegation and survival come next May. Our bench has never looked stronger than it does today, that alone is a vast improvement.
If Wells does sign, I doubt he would start more than a handful of games for us this season, it doesn't mean he will be a waste of space or money.

Clockwork Claret · Post by **Clockwork Claret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:25 pm

“First of all I am very happy that the small surgery Nahki had was successful and very happy the medical department tell me he will be back in four to six weeks,” Wagner told the Huddersfield Examiner.
“He will be back as normal after the international break is finished and that is good news.

Decent option for me, at the price. Won't start immediately but adds something to the squad especially much needed pace.

Some of the comments on here, on the other hand, are OTT and display a festering billy-big-******** attitude of a section of our fanbase. Dyche has earned our trust (Arfield is a point in case) and Wells our support. Shame on you you plastic cretins.

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DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:26 pm

A couple of long term injuries to our squad and we are putting in players for more than a stint as cover, who probably aren't of the level needed.

Who covers an injury to JBG, Defour, Hendrick, Mee, Tarkowski? Yes, Arfield did a job covering Hendrick for one game but a long stint in the centre, not good enough (fine to cover Brady).

A quality winger come striker is for me an essential as is the additional centre half. As it stands just three a long term injuries and our first XI could be:

Heaton
Lowton Long Mee Ward
Wells / Walters Cork Westwood Arfield Brady
Wood

It can look very weak, very quickly. I know we can't have a huge and overly expensive squad but let's not pretend we are covered adequately now that Wells is coming.