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Re: Our net spend this window

Post by KRBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:56 pm

Jimscho wrote:Those figures are a load of ********.Read my posts on here re Gray and Keane for truer figures and no figure for Taylor believed to be £6m and you will see we have spent more than we have got in.
I certainly don't doubt your figures but maybe you could provide a list to back up your claim.

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Post by Reecey1987 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:58 pm

How do you work that out ? If we had a transfer budget before we sold these players then surely we should of added some more on for making such an healthy profit . Even if it was an extra 10 million its better than nothing

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Re: Our net spend this window

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:09 pm

Perhaps our 'transfer budget' also allows for us to address the need for incomings in January.

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Re: Our net spend this window

Post by Jimscho » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:40 pm

KRBFC wrote:I certainly don't doubt your figures but maybe you could provide a list to back up your claim.
The list at post 2 is quite accurate on the purchases so about £40m spent excluding agents fees and I assume there may be signing on fees.The figures I dispute is the 48.5m for sales as these are nearer £32/33m if you include Darikwa sale.As I have pointed out a number of times to the point of boredom some of these fees are subject to certain events happening in the future so not guaranteed and United got just over £6m.We have possibly spent £8m more this window than received.We may also have had to pay Brentford some of the Gray fee,I don't know.We may also have to pay Leeds some money in the future for Wood and Taylor.

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:45 pm

Jimscho wrote:The list at post 2 is quite accurate on the purchases so about £40m spent excluding agents fees and I assume there may be signing on fees.The figures I dispute is the 48.5m for sales as these are nearer £32/33m if you include Darikwa sale.As I have pointed out a number of times to the point of boredom some of these fees are subject to certain events happening in the future so not guaranteed and United got just over £6m.We have possibly spent £8m more this window than received.We may also have had to pay Brentford some of the Gray fee,I don't know.We may also have to pay Leeds some money in the future for Wood and Taylor.
How do you know they are accurate?

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Post by KRBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:47 pm

Jimscho wrote:The list at post 2 is quite accurate on the purchases so about £40m spent excluding agents fees and I assume there may be signing on fees.The figures I dispute is the 48.5m for sales as these are nearer £32/33m if you include Darikwa sale.As I have pointed out a number of times to the point of boredom some of these fees are subject to certain events happening in the future so not guaranteed and United got just over £6m.We have possibly spent £8m more this window than received.We may also have had to pay Brentford some of the Gray fee,I don't know.We may also have to pay Leeds some money in the future for Wood and Taylor.
Good post, maybe you could have replied to my question in the OP without the previous unnecessary attacks. After all, I only asked a question based on figures I'd read on Sky.

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Re: Our net spend this window

Post by Jimscho » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:47 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:How do you know they are accurate?
I don't but I think they are more accurate than the £48m -£50m that keeps being quoted on here.

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Re: Our net spend this window

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:49 pm

Ah right. It's just when you said it was quite accurate I assumed you knew.

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Post by Jimscho » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:53 pm

KRBFC wrote:Good post, maybe you could have replied to my question in the OP without the previous unnecessary attacks. After all, I only asked a question based on figures I'd read on Sky.
I did apologise for that and I meant it.My mistake was trying to read the message board on my phone and because of my eyesight got a bit cross eyed and attributed the post to you rather than RV.The eyesight problem is genuine.I go to matches with my son and 3 grandchildren but I can't make out who the individual players are and often have to watch replays on TVs as I don't see them clearly at the game.
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Post by starting_11 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:09 pm

Can we spend a few quid less and have a less sh*t sponsor ruining our shirts?

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Post by iluva64 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:23 pm

KRBFC wrote:A football club isn't even comparable to owning a business to make a living.
Keeping the existing squad on a level playing field has used up the entire £110M plus whatever we had remaining from last year? Simply not true at all, our wage bill is absolutely nowhere near £110M plus the money left over from last season
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A football club is a business and needs to make living - sums up your intelligence

Keeping the entire squad on a level playing field - you or I have no idea what was paid to players as bonuses for staying in the premier. You don't always need to inflate wages - businesses can make other cash incentives to players

I have not stated our wage bill is near 110mill. We have no idea as to what the true running costs of the club are. Our end of year accounts are not detailed enough to determine those figures.

You are so full of ill informed and poorly researched observations.

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Post by KRBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:35 pm

iluva64 wrote:A football club is a business and needs to make living - sums up your intelligence

Keeping the entire squad on a level playing field - you or I have no idea what was paid to players as bonuses for staying in the premier. You don't always need to inflate wages - businesses can make other cash incentives to players

I have not stated our wage bill is near 110mill. We have no idea as to what the true running costs of the club are. Our end of year accounts are not detailed enough to determine those figures.

You are so full of ill informed and poorly researched observations.
You were the one who said we spent the entire lot on keeping the players on a level playing field which would suggest you are the ill informed one.

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Post by iluva64 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:48 pm

You numpty,

I'm not the one quoting figures....you are. 110 mill is I assume from your post no.1

You have no idea as to wether we received that figure as our end of year accounts aren't due until next year

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Post by KRBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:58 pm

iluva64 wrote:You numpty,

I'm not the one quoting figures....you are. 110 mill is I assume from your post no.1

You have no idea as to wether we received that figure as our end of year accounts aren't due until next year
Sunderland received over £100M and they were relegated, £110M is about what we'll receive for our finish last season. We may not have received it all yet because its not paid upfront in one payment. You fkn numpty :lol: :lol: You even claimed we'd blew the bank on levelling the playing field HAHAHAHAHAHA what a numpty

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Re: Our net spend this window

Post by iluva64 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:04 pm

such an immature retard

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Post by KRBFC » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:08 pm

iluva64 wrote:such an immature retard
No response? What a f**king numpty you are :lol:

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Post by iluva64 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:48 pm

the response was above.......you can add illiterate to my post65 as well

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Re: Our net spend this window

Post by CnBtruntru » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:01 pm

Why net and not Gross?

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Re: Our net spend this window

Post by whentheballmoves » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:22 pm

So, are we saying that we have spent about the same as we have received from transfers this summer?

That means we have whatever was left over from last season's PL money PLUS the 110 million we get this time round, right?

I know that several players will be on improved deals, and there will be bonuses paid out for staying up, but it feels as though we have a lot of cash sloshing around now?!

5m is ringfenced for the disabled facilities. Have the concourses / toilets / catering facilities been improved at all? That's something I would like to see a few million spent on...giving a bit directly back to the fans / improving the match day experience a bit?

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Re: Our net spend this window

Post by LaLigaClaret » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:56 pm

Another gormless happy clapper trying to desperately spin things to justify their persistent delusions. Your figures very conveniently include speculative valuations when it suits you and conveniently downgrades transfer monies coming in when it suits you. You are also conveniently in denial over the amounts saved on wages on leaving players and players released.

Oh and the biggest convenience of all.....the fact that whatever way you try to spin it, as a club we did not spend in net amounts anywhere near the amounts spouted about by Garlick before the transfer market opened.

The lack of an experienced CB to challenge for a starting position , let alone as cover is just plain stupidity especially as we have had the whole year to do something about it. Tarks may be good but as a Prem CB he is inexperienced, Long doesn't cut it and is simply not good enough. We are one serious injury away from real trouble. No-one can seriously tell me that the other defenders we have that are full backs can be good enough to cover as a Prem CB at the present moment.

We have cash in abundance or should have or serious questions need to be asked to have recruited properly for CB. The Board should hang their head in shame for taking such a needless risk. Absolutely disgraceful. Yes we have made some decent signings, some not so good but they could have and should have been better. I truly do support my team and have done so all my life but stop blindly following every message drummed out that SD and the Board are Gods who can do no wrong.

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Post by PutTheWheelieBinsOut » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:06 am

It's almost like the posters downgrading the money received for Keane & Gray think this is a good thing??? Maybe if we were not so quick to the deals we could have waited and easily made another £10-15m profit. You only have to look at the crazy money being banded about today.

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Post by dsr » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:08 am

PutTheWheelieBinsOut wrote:It's almost like the posters downgrading the money received for Keane & Gray think this is a good thing??? Maybe if we were not so quick to the deals we could have waited and easily made another £10-15m profit. You only have to look at the crazy money being banded about today.
We could. But if Everton had signed someone else, we could easily have made £10-£15m less profit. Or no profit at all, if no offers came in that were acceptable to Keane. You never know what would have happened.

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Post by KRBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:10 am

8-)
dsr wrote:We could. But if Everton had signed someone else, we could easily have made £10-£15m less profit. Or no profit at all, if no offers came in that were acceptable to Keane. You never know what would have happened.
We apparently have received just £18M of the quoted £30M fee for Keane. Poor business

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Post by PutTheWheelieBinsOut » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:10 am

dsr wrote:We could. But if Everton had signed someone else, we could easily have made £10-£15m less profit. Or no profit at all, if no offers came in that were acceptable to Keane. You never know what would have happened.
Yes it would be a tragedy to have Keane in our team for Palace :?

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Post by RattyClaret » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:14 am

KRBFC wrote:8-)
We apparently have received just £18M of the quoted £30M fee for Keane. Poor business
No poor business just poor understanding by you

We had a 25% sell on to pay to Manutd and5m is add ins only payable to us we he has played a number of games, so 18m is what we got deal with it

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Post by KRBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:46 am

RattyClaret wrote:No poor business just poor understanding by you

We had a 25% sell on to pay to Manutd and5m is add ins only payable to us we he has played a number of games, so 18m is what we got deal with it
Poor understanding? I just said we received £18M for Keane of the quoted £30M. You then confirmed we received £18M for Keane and stated the reason why. You said the exact same thing as me then said I misunderstood? Surely that makes you misunderstood too? :lol:

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:47 am

Was it ever £30million?

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Post by KRBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:49 am

boatshed bill wrote:Was it ever £30million?
Quoted as £30M but we have only received £18M at this moment in time.

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