Brighton meltdown

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:59 am

This is so funny. Brighton reporter confirms that both striker deals they had in play, had fallen through.

https://twitter.com/AndyNaylorArgus/sta ... 3036601346" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

On the all, I think we had an excellent transfer window. Shame about a winger to replace Boyd though.

Eloise Laws · Post by **Eloise Laws** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:02 am

Shame

....after their promotion some fans were posting they would finish around 8th

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:05 am

I can't be bothered to read them all, but these look like they could have potential

http://www.northstandchat.com/showthrea ... f68cf21031" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.northstandchat.com/showthrea ... f68cf21031" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:06 am

Steddyman wrote:Shame about a winger to replace Boyd though.

Brady not adequate?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:18 am

dsr wrote:Brady not adequate?

How can Brady replace Boyd when they were in the same ******* team 4 months ago?

Is he going to play on the left and the right at once?

Jesus wept.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:21 am

They remind me of Americans all gung ho thinking how wonderful they are and then it when thinkgs don't go their way it all comes crashing down. Awful plastic supporters.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:24 am

We need to let go of this idea of one player replacing another. You want cover for each position but trying to trace back who has replaced who since 2012 seems a bit futile.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:24 am

A year ago, Boyd and Arfield were wingers. Now it's Brady and Gudmondsson. Whether Brady has replaced Boyd or not is purely because you're defining "replaced" more narrowly than me.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:29 am

dsr wrote:A year ago, Boyd and Arfield were wingers. Now it's Brady and Gudmondsson. Whether Brady has replaced Boyd or not is purely because you're defining "replaced" more narrowly than me.

So we've gone from our wingers being

Boyd
Brady
Gudmundsson
Arfield at a stretch

and now they are

Brady
Gudmondsson
Arfield

Brady hasn't replaced Boyd has he?

He was on the first list! How on earth can Brady replace Boyd?

You have a very strange definition of 'replaced' in your dictionary

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:34 am

Back end of last season, Boyd was in the team, Brady was sub. Now Brady is in the team.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:38 am

What was that comment about Real Madrid that one of their deluded posters made a few months ago? I can't remember now but it was hilarious. I was on the Watford forum at the weekend looking for their thoughts on Gray and they were saying similar things about Brighton fans.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:39 am

So who is Brady's replacement (even though he hasn't left, so actually it boils down to who is Boyd's replacement)?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:40 am

Walters and Barnes both play on the flank too from time to time.

I think we can say we've replaced Boyd..

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:44 am

Just had a look on the twitter and message board of Brighton.Its like reading the drama queenery on here but with different user names,.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:45 am

Jimscho wrote:Just had a look on the twitter and message board of Brighton.Its like reading the drama queenery on here but with different user names,.

Careful. You will be called a homophobe next.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:46 am

Sidney1st wrote:Walters and Barnes both play on the flank too from time to time.

I think we can say we've replaced Boyd..

So we'll play Walters and Barnes on the flanks, Cork and Taylor at centre back, and Tarkowski in midfield.

How about we just play players in their proper positions, and have enough players to cover those positions.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:47 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:Careful. You will be called a homophobe next.

Absolutely, Kings can also be just as dramatic.

We must be inclusive of all in the spirit of fair play.

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:59 am

1st season in PL is very very tough.

Can you imagine the meltdown on here if that happened to Burnley?

No ambition, powder dry..........

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:09 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:So we'll play Walters and Barnes on the flanks, Cork and Taylor at centre back, and Tarkowski in midfield.

How about we just play players in their proper positions, and have enough players to cover those positions.

Lets just stop right there.

You're having a tantrum and I'll be honest, I can't be bothered with that today, you're already irritating me with it.

Boyd has gone, get over it.
We've got players who have proven they can play in more than one position for us and other clubs.
It's quite common at other clubs for managers to utilize this aspect with some players so Dyche is quite right to do the same.

The window hasn't been perfect, but it could've been a whole lot worse.
However we are in a better position than a number of clubs, see Newcastle and Brighton for example.
Real issues at other clubs too.

Go and lie down, maybe take a nap until you've calmed down...

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:11 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:So we've gone from our wingers being

Boyd
Brady
Gudmundsson
Arfield at a stretch

and now they are

Brady
Gudmondsson
Arfield

Brady hasn't replaced Boyd has he?

He was on the first list! How on earth can Brady replace Boyd?

You have a very strange definition of 'replaced' in your dictionary

LOLZ

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:17 am

Walters can play wide

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:25 am

Now that we've got the option to playing 3 in the middle with 2 out wide, the potential pool of wide players can be picked from

Traditional:
Brady
JBG
Arfield

When we are either chasing a game / need to win against similar opposition

Walters
Barnes
wells? - I'm not sure about him whether he can play that role

So potentially 6 players for 2 slots depending on the match situation.

When playing 4-4-2 we were limited into having defensive wide men in that role, hence why Brady hardly got any game time.

4-5-1 / 4-3-3 seems to fit our squad better at the mo

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:08 pm

It is of some compensation to me that BHA failed to sign Andone. Of course, like everyone else on here, I know next to nothing about the man.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:53 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:So we've gone from our wingers being

Boyd
Brady
Gudmundsson
Arfield at a stretch

and now they are

Brady
Gudmondsson
Arfield

Brady hasn't replaced Boyd has he?

He was on the first list! How on earth can Brady replace Boyd?

You have a very strange definition of 'replaced' in your dictionary

Who replaced Kightley?

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:40 pm

You can't replace Boyd with like for like for all sorts of reasons, and because of the way in which Dyche employed him, but it could be argued that any out of Ward, Taylor and Arfield, are more than adequate in his "defensive" role, and that Brady, Gudmundson and Walters more than adequate replacements in an attacking sense. He wasn't an attacking winger in the Kightly sense.
In any case our framework has changed somewhat this season anyway.
Incidentally Boyd doesn't appear to be doing very well at Wednesday, though I haven't actually watched their games.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:51 pm

And nor should we replace Boyd like for like.

The longer we stay in the premier league the more we need to evolve and IMO that means we need to get better at attacking whilst still remaining solid at the back. I think with the players we now have we are starting to see very positive signs of this.

BigF · Post by **BigF** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:57 pm

And I thought that this topic was about Brighton and Hove Albion's troubles. Ah well.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:06 pm

We didn't need to replace Boyd like for like. We're playing a different formation therefore the defensive requirements of the wingers isn't the same. For what it's worth I suspect Walters and Barnes will be utilised as wide players now so we've actually got 5 who can fill those places.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:50 pm

Don't like that club since they went all plastic. Nothing but disdain for their plastic population. Hope they go down. Shame really for their proper fans and I don't mind Hughton.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:52 pm

I hope BHA go down, too. As well as Newcastle.

Im_not_Robbie_Blake · Post by **Im_not_Robbie_Blake** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:02 pm

Dear Mr/Mrs/Miss/Master Up The Beehole and anyone else who talks about 'replacing' players

Stop it!!!! Buying and selling players isn't about replacing. 99% of us know that, so please stop it: you are actually showing yourself up.

Thank You

Im_Not_Robbie_Blake

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:03 pm

I thought this was the Brighton meltdown thread.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:13 pm

I think Brighton could easily be the team cut adrift by Christmas. Which would be a shame for Chris Hughton but great nevertheless.

keith1879 · Post by **keith1879** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:26 pm

I enjoyed our trip there two seasons ago. Really liked the idea of keeping the refreshment places open after the game while the crowds (I was going to say dispersed but "moved onto the railway station " would be more acurate). But I too would like to see them straight back down because of their whingeing entitled fans.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:37 pm

Agreed, but I think hanging around the ground would have been much less fun if we hadn't just scored a last minute equaliser.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:43 pm

aggi wrote:Agreed, but I think hanging around the ground would have been much less fun if we hadn't just scored a last minute equaliser.

Which equaliser the first or the second

Nipples · Post by **Nipples** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:51 pm

The fact they've not signed one player with Prem experience is baffling to me.

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:52 pm

Steddyman wrote:This is so funny. Brighton reporter confirms that both striker deals they had in play, had fallen through.

https://twitter.com/AndyNaylorArgus/sta ... 3036601346" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

On the all, I think we had an excellent transfer window. Shame about a winger to replace Boyd though.

I secretly hope they were in for Barnes and we pulled the deal at the last minute.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:06 pm

Brighton remind me of us in Dyche's first Premier League season,organised neat tidy possession, but no cutting edge,hell they couldn't even break down 10 man Watford last week,i can't see where the 10/11 wins they would need for survival is coming from.All the better for everyone else including us,in addition i can see other clubs eyeing up Chris Hughton.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:08 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Who replaced Kightley?

Whoever is "it" playing Ghost in the Graveyard down at Gawthorpe

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:27 pm

Brighton fans have already sh!t the bed,theyre all talking about being "like Derby" "goinf down without a fight" etc etc and they also talk of wanting "big names"

After all their bluster and shiny new stadium talk and "europe in 3 yrs" guff it's gonna be hilarious if they crumble like white dog poo.

Houghton deserves better than this load of plastics.A Man city mate of mine described their ground atmosphere as sounding like "a big version one of those god awful childrens play centres"

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:33 pm

I would not mind Hughton as our next manager when Sean walks because of us morons.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:41 pm

If any of the big clubs had any balls CH and SD would be managing top 6 clubs imo. Both classy intelligent managers who have won 2 or more prem promotions and done things the hard way.CH was treated appalingly by Newcastle Direct.com

If it be your will · Post by **If it be your will** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:06 pm

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:55 pm

Brighton fan I know who mocked me when they beat Barnsley once also mocked me twice most recently when we were relegated and last time mocked me when they missed out on promotion compared to us saying we would just go back down.

It would just be perfect if they got relegated. They may be playing defensively now but they don't have the practice playing that way in the Championship having always been more of an attacking side. With the premier league experience that we have compared to them hopefully it will mean they flop.

Sad thing is it was all or nothing for them last season and they managed it

, if they didn't they would be in a financial mess and probably under an embargo for FFP. They literally have done a QPR.

It just doesn't make sense, FFP still doesn't stop clubs from paying over the odds and they simply get a get out of jail free card when they get promoted.

Oh and they got a free stadium too.

Sod em, hate them more than Blackburn personally. Deluded bunch of fans...and when I lived in Southampton I thought their fans were bad

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:32 am

You thought their fans were bad, super d. In what way?