Keep quiet please or get a blue card .....

[Sidney1st]

It's a bit more detailed then that for Germany.

Massive investments in their youth system, clubs had to have one or wouldn't be allowed in the league's I recall.
The German FA possibly contributed to the creation of academies too, but I'd need to check that when I get home.

They also play a lot more homegrown players in their top teams then English clubs tend too.
I think they also pay less in wages then many of our top clubs do, the ownership of clubs is probably a better format etc.

[dushanbe]

As has already been said numerous times, this has *nothing* to do with producing players for the professional game, let alone the England team.

The FA at a national and local level have spent a lot of time looking into why kids stop playing football. The attitudes of plenty of people on this thread (most of whom have no connection with youth football I’d wager) are the main reason.

Neil Yates the local FA rep and ex poster on the CM board does a fantastic presentation on youth football for parents and coaches which explains the reasons for grassroots footie being set up the way it is. He knows what he is talking about unlike plenty of the smart arse gob****** on this thread.

[deanothedino]

Grassroots football isn't there as a vehicle to provide players for professional teams, its there to allow kids who like playing football the chance to play. Some kids do get picked up by academies but in the main they are kids who just want to play football.

We are talking about 7,8 and 9 year olds here. My son loves playing, but the scoreline is largely irrelevant to him. By the time we've got in the car for the trip home, he doesn't care whether the team won or lost.

The problem you get when you make winning and losing all important at that age is the fun is sucked out of it and kids just stop playing and thats not good for anyone.

I always loved winning and hated losing, can't imagine having been any different. Loved a slide tackle too, this would have ruined my youth.

[dushanbe]

I always loved winning and hated losing, can't imagine having been any different. Loved a slide tackle too, this would have ruined my youth.

You've misunderstood what this is about. The football is competitive, the idea is to win, its just not the be all and end all. Kids are naturally competitive, they just don't need league tables etc. The whole point behind this approach is to try and get kids playing football earlier and longer than they've been proven to do in the past.

[1968claret]

s speaking to a parent of a player in a local girls team yesterday who said how they played friendlys against lads sides to "toughen up" the girls. They went from not winning in 2 seasons to winning 1st 4 this season in a row so far.
Fair enough, but did they become better players technically?

[deanothedino]

You've misunderstood what this is about. The football is competitive, the idea is to win, its just not the be all and end all. Kids are naturally competitive, they just don't need league tables etc. The whole point behind this approach is to try and get kids playing football earlier and longer than they've been proven to do in the past.

I didn't care for the league table to be honest, just the game. Was forgotten about by lunchtime at school on Monday, doesn't change that the whole point of sport at any level is to win - if you're not competing then it's not sport. For the most part I played all my youth football in teams that got absolutely battered every week. Sterilising the game doesn't make it fun, find me a kid who doesn't like a sliding tackle on a muddy pitch.

[Vegas Claret]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... oom-talent

Thanks for the link

Interesting read but all I took from that is that the Germans put in professional UEFA B badge coaches from a young age where in England we have uncle Terry !
I didn't see anything in that article that said much about the things that were listed at the top of the thread particularly though.

[bfccrazy]

s speaking to a parent of a player in a local girls team yesterday who said how they played friendlys against lads sides to "toughen up" the girls. They went from not winning in 2 seasons to winning 1st 4 this season in a row so far.
Fair enough, but did they become better players technically?

They have gained more compusure on the ball and look to offload it quicker now as the lads were much faster at trying to win it back. They also learnt to track players better (even though they got tumped off lads teams a few years younger than them).

They just learnt the harder way that their mistakes would be punished more and quicker so worked harder to cut them out. Then when playing agaibst girls again they were a step up.

[dpinsussex]

I was a linesman at my kids game on sunday. Three parents decided to tell me that their kids were onside when (in my opinion) they were not.

The coach of the team that the parents belonged to said "it happens, its parents"

I said "it never happens when its my kids teams parents".

Parents are the problem, especially those who appear to think a under-10 game is a qualifier for the champions league.

We had a coach the other week abuse our second coach who runs the line saying he cant give a foul throw as he isnt a qualified referee. I explained that he has the full jurisdictiction of the laws of the game as he is part if the referees team. Mentioned i was a senior county referee at which point he had his hand in my face. What annoyed me most was his abuse to referee c15 yr old who had done well uptil half time when this happened.
The abusive coach is a bigger problem. This incident is now being investigated by the cfa.

[barba]

Banning headers is the obvious one they should have considered

[claretbucky1978]

It's not all true.

Please see email i was sent from the league last week.

​Please find an email from the FA ​



You may well have heard of or seen an image purporting to be from the Manchester Respect JFL, circulating on social media over the last week and this has caused some interest and also some confusion, as it may appear to be representative of the FA Youth review as shown on that image.



These are not FA approved rules.



The FA Youth review, recently updated, gives a good understanding of how we can all get a better experience for our children and everyone involved in youth football.



I have copied in the links below to an easier accessible guide, including a smart phone guide which was circulated back in August to clubs & Leagues and you are welcome to share them with your footballing partners.



Booklet V9: https://www.dropbox.com/s/medfgy6ljuwxv ... 9.pdf?dl=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Poster V6: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0n71fk4azkveq ... 6.pdf?dl=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Smartphone V4: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r2tcvs09zvch3 ... 4.pdf?dl=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;





Below is the official response from the FA, with regard to the image shown over last weekend.



“Whilst we are supportive of the spirit, the overall outcome of improving the standards and environment with youth football we must stress that this is not an approved FA pilot. We are interested in working with the leagues to talk through their ideas to ensure any pilot is developed within our rules, regulations and current plans for both Youth Football and RESPECT programme"



For any further information please contact John Folwell National Participation Manager - Youth Football at John.folwell@thefa.com

[Ashingtonclaret46]

It would seem that these directives have not been brought in by the FA.

FA Statement as follows;

"To clarify that whilst The FA are supportive of the spirit, the overall outcome of improving the standards and environment with youth football we must stress that this is not an approved FA pilot.
There has been no oversight from us and we encourage you to relay this to others who may require clarification.
We are interested in working with the league to talk through their ideas to ensure any pilot is developed within our rules, regulations and current plans for both Youth Football and RESPECT programme."