Everton move for Dyche

[KRBFC]

Everton aren't this massive club, fans seem to think you win a trophy for finishing 7th in the league

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Everton aren't this massive club, fans seem to think you win a trophy for finishing 7th in the league

A massive club who ‘should be pushing top 4’ we keep being told although they are currently nowhere near.

[KRBFC]

A massive club who ‘should be pushing top 4’ we keep being told although they are currently nowhere near.

Inconsistent midtable side is what id call them

[Sidney1st]

They have more appeal than a number of clubs in this league and will do moving forwards, with a new stadium being lined up etc.

They just need to right manager to move them forward.

[KRBFC]

So they

They have more appeal than a number of clubs in this league and will do moving forwards, with a new stadium being lined up etc.

They just need to right manager to move them forward.

So they keep saying, even Jorge Jesus wouldn't get that lot in the top 4. They just aren't good enough, whether they have Moyes, Martinez, Koeman or Unsworth in charge it really doesn't matter.
There's a reason all their best players cant wait to leave (Lukaku, Stones, Barkley, Rooney, Fellaini) and that's just a couple off the top of my head I'm sure there's more.

[Sidney1st]

So they
So they keep saying, even Jorge Jesus wouldn't get that lot in the top 4. They just aren't good enough, whether they have Moyes, Martinez, Koeman or Unsworth in charge it really doesn't matter.

They can be good enough with the right manager who makes the right signings.
They didn't replace Lukaku and along with other issues they're struggling this season.

Like I said, they're still a more attractive club then many in this league and their history would suggest they're a bigger club than a large chunk of this league.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

They can be good enough with the right manager who makes the right signings.
They didn't replace Lukaku and along with other issues they're struggling this season.

Like I said, they're still a more attractive club then many in this league and their history would suggest they're a bigger club than a large chunk of this league.

‘Bigger’ club doesn’t always guarantee success as the number of ‘bigger city’ clubs languishing in the leagues below testifies.

[Sidney1st]

‘Bigger’ club doesn’t always guarantee success as the number of ‘bigger city’ clubs languishing in the leagues below testifies.

I'm well aware of that, but since 1888 they've only spent 4 seasons outside the top flight and haven't been outside the top flight since 1954.

They can rightly claim to be a bigger club than a large chunk of the league.
New stadium in the pipeline and an owner willing to back the manager and Kenwright is still there to help guide them.

I'm not saying they'll go out and break into the top 4 straight away, but the potential to become a regular in the top 6 is there.

[Spijed]

Mr Nixon suggests all the talk about Sean Dyche to Everton is from his own people.

[Spijed]

Twitter:

[If it be your will]

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[Sidney1st]

Watford and Palace have a small number of seasons in the top flight yet I've heard a few people claim they're bigger clubs than Burnley

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Mr Nixon suggests all the talk about Sean Dyche to Everton is from his own people.

Boden tweeted this as well yesterday. Pay rise or increased January budget wanted?

[Rick_Muller]

Watford and Palace have a small number of seasons in the top flight yet I've heard a few people claim they're bigger clubs than Burnley

Just don’t get the obsession with size Sid... surely it’s quality over quantity

[Sidney1st]

Just don’t get the obsession with size Sid... surely it’s quality over quantity

That's what I tell all the women

[Sidney1st]

Boden tweeted this as well yesterday. Pay rise or increased January budget wanted?

Could just be an agent looking for a pay day.

[Rick_Muller]

That's what I tell all the women

Me too mate

[piston broke]

I'm well aware of that, but since 1888 they've only spent 4 seasons outside the top flight and haven't been outside the top flight since 1954..

Could have been different if Wimbledon had held on to their 2 goal ht lead that would have relegated them or goal line technology had been in use at Bolton.
You can guess I'm no fan of the chewed up toffees.

[Sidney1st]

Could have been different if Wimbledon had held on to their 2 goal ht lead that would have relegated them or goal line technology had been in use at Bolton.
You can guess I'm no fan of the chewed up toffees.

Not everyone is, I just pointed out certain things that deserve respect.

[KRBFC]

They can be good enough with the right manager who makes the right signings.
They didn't replace Lukaku and along with other issues they're struggling this season.

Like I said, they're still a more attractive club then many in this league and their history would suggest they're a bigger club than a large chunk of this league.

"bigger" doesn't mean better, the "bigger club" line is often used and its mainly said due to fanbase and history, two factors that don't equate to winning 3 points on a consistent basis in the current season. Look at Leeds or Forest, those trophies they won all them years ago dont help them now, do they?

Everton simply aren't good enough to break the top 4 and haven't been since I started watching football. What's going to change? Nothing unless they dump a bucket load of cash in like City which means any club with investment could do it.

[Dyched]

It doesn't matter about the size, it's how you use it and Sean knows just how to use it!!!

[Kevwando]

According to the sun, Dyche could be appointed on Monday
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... n-dyche-2/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Sidney1st]

"bigger" doesn't mean better, the "bigger club" line is often used and its mainly said due to fanbase and history, two factors that don't equate to winning 3 points on a consistent basis in the current season. Look at Leeds or Forest, those trophies they won all them years ago dont help them now, do they?

Everton simply aren't good enough to break the top 4 and haven't been since I started watching football. What's going to change? Nothing unless they dump a bucket load of cash in like City which means any club with investment could do it.

I've said top 6 as that's a more realistic target firstly.

With astute signings they could do top 6.
Arsenal are on a bit of a wobble, Liverpool look shaky as well.
Those are the teams you'd be aiming for first and work up from there.

Everton have a net spend of approx £60-70 million this season so far, which isn't a massive amount of money all things considered, they failed to replace lukaku and it's showing.

Since 2004 they've finished 11th three times and the rest 8th or higher, usually 5-7th though.
They're there or there abouts.
In the 90's up to 2004 they were mid table or lower most of the time so despite not having ridiculous amounts of investement, they've done well.
I think they've paid well in wages, just not stupid transfer fees all the time apart from the odd star signing, but they rarely paid out money that made you sit up and go wow before this season.

[Spijed]

According to the sun, Dyche could be appointed on Monday
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... n-dyche-2/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's not written by Nicko

[KRBFC]

I've said top 6 as that's a more realistic target firstly.

With astute signings they could do top 6.
Arsenal are on a bit of a wobble, Liverpool look shaky as well.
Those are the teams you'd be aiming for first and work up from there.

Everton have a net spend of approx £60-70 million this season so far, which isn't a massive amount of money all things considered, they failed to replace lukaku and it's showing.

Since 2004 they've finished 11th three times and the rest 8th or higher, usually 5-7th though.
They're there or there abouts.
In the 90's up to 2004 they were mid table or lower most of the time so despite not having ridiculous amounts of investement, they've done well.
I think they've paid well in wages, just not stupid transfer fees all the time apart from the odd star signing, but they rarely paid out money that made you sit up and go wow before this season.

They're absolutely nowhere near breaking the top 4 and never have been. I dunno where you get "there or there abouts" from.

[Sidney1st]

They're absolutely nowhere near breaking the top 4 and never have been. I dunno where you get "there or there abouts" from.

You could always try reading everything I've written, you might learn something

Try again and let me know when you've digested it properly.

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

According to the sun, Dyche could be appointed on Monday
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... n-dyche-2/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If that were true Dyche wouldn’t be second favourite to Allardyce with skybet.

[boatshed bill]

Nothing in football surprises me any more.
Apparently it's a "food chain" so everything we do is basically for the benefit of those deemed to be bigger and better than us: feckin fantastic!

[brigante]

SunBet is also a thing

[Wile E Coyote]

Nothing in football surprises me any more.
Apparently it's a "food chain" so everything we do is basically for the benefit of those deemed to be bigger and better than us: feckin fantastic!

Exactly, the betting backed syndicates, turd rats on Sky and Talk Sport, Corrupt foreign backed owners flogging yet more betting and alcohol, all wrapped up in a nice Sun newspaper shouting branded sea of vomit.
Its enough to make our grandads turn in their collective graves. F*** them all.

[Quarry claret]

They have offered the job to Nuno Espirito Sanchez of Wolves. Any one else now is Second choice

[Quarry claret]

They have offered the job to Nuno Espirito Sanchez of Wolves. Any one else now is Second choice

[1HappyClaret]

They have offered the job to Nuno Espirito Sanchez of Wolves. Any one else now is Second choice

Source????

[Diesel]

They have offered the job to Nuno Espirito Sanchez of Wolves. Any one else now is Second choice

Dyche to Wolves, then?

[arise_sir_charge]

The only source is Baluge’s Spanish mate.

Much more talk around Dyche.

[Rick_Muller]

SunBet is also a thing

along with Skybet - and they are News Corp International companies too, just like Sky

[FulledgeClaret]

Everton are one of those teams still living on past glory and assume that because they won something 20yrs ago they should still be towards the top of the league(remind you of anyone), they aren't a top 6 side and haven't been for a long time if ever, yes they have had the odd decent finish 4-6th(9) in the last 30 years since winning the 1st division but they have never really been a dominant force in English football over a prolonged period, they are in the same boat as us playing in the 7th -17th league with hope of maybe a cup win along the way.

In the years of premier league football they have finished top half 12 times, bottom half 12 times, top 6 7 times and no higher than 4th with 1 cup win and a charity shield both over 20 years ago this to me says at best they are one of the better also ran teams not a top 6 side. compare them to Liverpool in the same period no finish lower than 8th while finishing outside the top 6 only six times with 9 cup wins that's a top 6 side.

[Tall Paul]

SD wants the job and Kenwright wants to give it to him or Moyes. Moshiri would prefer a short term appointment like Allardyce and then to go for a bigger name in the summer. Hopefully Moshiri wins.

Source - the same as the one who told me that Koeman would get the job about a month before he was appointed.

[Rick_Muller]

SD wants the job and Kenwright wants to give it to him or Moyes. Moshiri would prefer a short term appointment like Allardyce and then to go for a bigger name in the summer. Hopefully Moshiri wins.

Source - the same as the one who told me that Koeman would get the job about a month before he was appointed.

the question is then - who pays the bills...?

EDIT - and to add, I would not want to stand in SD's way if he chose to leave close season and go in the summer. I have said before on this thread, he would be very disingenuous if he left mid season and it would go against many of his values that he promotes to his staff and squad. I used the word "fraud" before, and I was pulled up on it, but I cant find any alternative to it if he goes mid season.

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

SD wants the job and Kenwright wants to give it to him or Moyes. Moshiri would prefer a short term appointment like Allardyce and then to go for a bigger name in the summer. Hopefully Moshiri wins.

Source - the same as the one who told me that Koeman would get the job about a month before he was appointed.

How much did you make on that then??

[Lancasterclaret]

It would be mad of SD didn't want the job to be honest, but he'll want it on his terms, and that might be the sticking point.

[Tall Paul]

How much did you make on that then??

None of your business.

[Top Claret]

I heard from a source at Everton last weekend,this guy is on the coaching staff. He said Everton don't want him and that Dyche agent is touting his name about because Dyche wants out.

Has someone else said it could all be a plan by Dyche and his agent to get him a pay rise and more funds in the January transfer window.

Burnley are now in a position were they could push on with further investment ,and make the club an established top 10 premier league club, only if we can hang onto Dyche this is

[jtv]

I heard from a source at Everton last weekend,this guy is on the coaching staff. He said Everton don't want him and that Dyche agent is touting his name about because Dyche wants out.

Why should Dyche want out? He has cult status with the players and the fans and there doesn't seem to be a rift with the Board.

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

I heard from a source at Everton last weekend,this guy is on the coaching staff. He said Everton don't want him and that Dyche agent is touting his name about because Dyche wants out.

Has someone else said it could all be a plan by Dyche and his agent to get him a pay rise and more funds in the January transfer window.

Burnley are now in a position were they could push on with further investment ,and make the club an established top 10 premier league club, only if we can hang onto Dyche this is

It may be his agent touting his name around bigger jobs or him wanting a pay rise but I doubt he’s desperate to get out!!

[dushanbe]

I heard from a source at Everton last weekend,this guy is on the coaching staff. He said Everton don't want him and that Dyche agent is touting his name about because Dyche wants out.

I can't decide who is full of more ****, you or your source.

[Top Claret]

I don't think he wants out. If he thinks the board are comfortable in the position we are in, then he might feel to further his ambitions at Burnley, he needs to pull a few strings and give the chairman a shake.

I honestly think he will stay and the club will give him every financial help they possibly can to keep him, on and off the field

[martin_p]

I don't think he wants out. If he thinks the board are comfortable in the position we are in, then he might feel to further his ambitions at Burnley, he needs to pull a few strings and give the chairman a shake.

I honestly think he will stay and the club will give him every financial help they possibly can to keep him, on and off the field

If anyone isn’t comfortable with the position we’re in , I.e. currently the best club outside ‘the big six’, they want their head looking at!

[Top Claret]

If anyone isn’t comfortable with the position we’re in , I.e. currently the best club outside ‘the big six’, they want their head looking at!

Agree Martin, but to cement our position we will have to invest

[martin_p]

Agree Martin, but to cement our position we will have to invest

And without a doubt there will be funds available in January. But we won’t be breaking the bank and Dyche knows and accepts that. Tiny steps forward.