Burnley playing in Europe

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:28 pm

Ok, we’ve still got a long long way to go but should we finish in the top 6, what would Burnley FC playing in Europe mean to you?

Would we be better to finish 7th and remain focus on the league?

LordBob · Post by **LordBob** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:33 pm

I'm not sure I saw all of our Inter Cities Fairs Cup games and the 3 knockout European competitions all meant something to every English football fan then but it's a bit dragged out and distracting these days, I'd still go though.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:34 pm

It really would be another dream come true. As someone who started watching in the mid--late 80's I never thought we would ever make it to rhe top league so I would love us to do it. As you say though, long, long way to go.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:43 pm

Unlikely but you never know - those Fairs Cup nights were amazing. If we can get into a position to create anything like those then, yes, we go for it.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:45 pm

I can't see us overtaking any of the big boys but 7th is a real possibility

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:46 pm

Squad small for such endeavours.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:58 pm

Saw us against Lausanne at the back end of 1966 as a kid.
5-0, great atmosphere, from what I can remember.

Doubtless it would be exciting again.
But let's just focus on staying up at the top end of the PL.

Great times.

BFC123 · Post by **BFC123** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:00 pm

Doesn’t 7th place get into the Europa League if one of the top 6 wins the League Cup/FA Cup?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:01 pm

As Moffit says, we’re not going to break into the top 6 but absolutely no reason why we can’t finish 7th. If an english team wins the Champions League does the 7th Places team qualify for the Europa League?

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:19 pm

BFC123 wrote:Doesn’t 7th place get into the Europa League if one of the top 6 wins the League Cup/FA Cup?

7th gets Europe if Top 5 win FA AND League Cup. I for one am hoping for no cup shocks this year because Europe would mean the world

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:28 pm

What happens if Man City win this years champions league, would they qualify automatically for next year therefore there would be another place open and the Europa League qualifying place drop down another place (if you know what I mean)?

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:38 pm

[quote="Barry_Chuckle"]What happens if Man City win this years champions league, would they qualify automatically for next year therefore there would be another place open and the Europa League qualifying place drop down another place (if you know what I mean)?[/quote

Possibly. It is all very complicated. We will know better if it gets to April and we are in contention for top 7. Fingers crossed

burnleysteve · Post by **burnleysteve** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:59 pm

baby steps, theres a long way to go yet if we are 7pts clear of 8th in April then maybe start thinking of Europe

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:03 pm

It would be a long drawn out summer of abc posting more drivel about the squad, European football and how crap Dyche is or needs to join a bigger club to realise his ambitions ..

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:21 pm

It would mean we have just had our best PL season ever.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:24 pm

Baby steps, guys. Plenty of teams out there have struggled with Thursday-Sunday football.
Let's stay up first and then build again.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:41 pm

Sidney1st wrote:It would be a long drawn out summer of abc posting more drivel about the squad, European football and how crap Dyche is or needs to join a bigger club to realise his ambitions ..

Most of us will be on cheap travel sites rather than reading the drivel he posts.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:59 pm

Right now I'm more interested in Man City playing in Europe than Burnley...

Claret&Green · Post by **Claret&Green** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:04 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:What happens if Man City win this years champions league, would they qualify automatically for next year therefore there would be another place open and the Europa League qualifying place drop down another place (if you know what I mean)?

Champions League winners would not open another place for EPL but, as last year with Man U, if Arsenal or Everton (

) were to win the Europa League they would become a 5th entrant to Champions League if they finish outside top 4. Then 6th would enter the Europa instead of 5th, If FA cup is won by a team already qualified for Europe the Cup runners up get a place, if runners up are qualify thru league position then 7th place get Europa, the maximum we can have is 5 in CL and 2 in Europa or 4 in CL and 3 in Europa so top 7 maximum.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:25 pm

Leicester were on 25 points after 12 games when they won the league. So we might not be champions at the end of this season, but we could be looking at a very strong top half finish.

If we can avoid falling away it'd be really nice to beat the 63 points Rovers got 12 years ago when they finished 6th.
We might not exactly do a Leicester, but we can try and do an Ipswich.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:32 pm

Burnley playing in the premier league next season.

That's the target for this season...

Holmeclaret · Post by **Holmeclaret** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:33 pm

Longsides going to Europe
Longsides going to Europe
Na na na na
Na na na na

That's what it would mean to me

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:44 pm

Already way beyond where I'd ever dare dream seeing us.... any more would be greedy, I'm happy on the trip... where we end up is irrelevant.... I'll know when we get there how exciting it is.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:44 pm

It would be on a par with winning the FA Cup to me. To see Burnley abroad in some European stadiums would be incredible. I might have to book 9 months off work.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:49 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Burnley playing in the premier league next season.

That's the target for this season...

After a start like this i'd be pretty ****** off if we only finished 17th. Anyone who wouldn't be isn't a Burnley fan.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:58 pm

Claret&Green wrote:Champions League winners would not open another place for EPL but, as last year with Man U, if Arsenal or Everton ( ) were to win the Europa League they would become a 5th entrant to Champions League if they finish outside top 4. Then 6th would enter the Europa instead of 5th, If FA cup is won by a team already qualified for Europe the Cup runners up get a place, if runners up are qualify thru league position then 7th place get Europa, the maximum we can have is 5 in CL and 2 in Europa or 4 in CL and 3 in Europa so top 7 maximum.

Have you got an official link to all that?
I thought I heard the cup runners up route had been scrapped by uefa..?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:07 pm

Found this https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indepe ... html%3famp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No mention of possible qualification via cup runners up route

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:07 pm

7th would get us into the Europa League as long as both cups were won by teams already in the top 6. Can't believe the amount of miserable buggers on here saying we don't want to be in Europe or let's just finish 17th. Would love some European away trips or the chance to see the likes of AC Milan on the Turf!

Cajun · Post by **Cajun** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:24 pm

Just thinking of Panzanato stamping big Andy's head into the Turf Moor mud in 67 still makes me seethe. A fantastic European night clouting Napoli was that.
I am just thinking about getting nearer to that 40-pt mark though. That is the objective for me again.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:26 pm

Definitely no cup runners up route anymore.
Passed on to next best league place.

https://www.premierleague.com/european- ... -explained" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:52 pm

If the height of your ambition is for us to avoid relegation this season then you’re setting the bar really low. This season presents a fantastic chance for us to have our best season in decades. 7th is still a big ask but I’d be disappointed if we couldn’t secure a top half finish. We’ve already got a 9 point gap to 11th position.

I’ve said for a while that there’s very little between the bottom 13/14 sides in this division. Fortunately for us we are the most organised and we have the best manager. Take a look down the league table and tell me which teams really concern you.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:56 pm

Dazzler wrote:Definitely no cup runners up route anymore.
Passed on to next best league place.

https://www.premierleague.com/european- ... -explained" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So am I right in my understanding that if a top 5 team wins the FA cup and the League cup then the 7th placed team qualifies for the Europa League?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:59 pm

Rileybobs wrote:So am I right in my understanding that if a top 5 team wins the FA cup and the League cup then the 7th placed team qualifies for the Europa League?

https://www.premierleague.com/european- ... -explained" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.

b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UEL third qualifying round place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:20 pm

I've never dreamt of winning the Premier League, it seems too farfetched, but lately I've been fantasising about qualifying for the Europa, winning that and then winning the Champions League. Its a reyt good thought to go to sleep to.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:21 pm

Rileybobs wrote:So am I right in my understanding that if a top 5 team wins the FA cup and the League cup then the 7th placed team qualifies for the Europa League?

Sorry,I should have wrote; that's what I assume from those a) & b) explanations.

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:23 pm

So we are also rooting for arsenal (or another) to win the Europa/ UEFA cup and finish outside the top 4.
We are probably getting way ahead of ourselves. 22 points in the conference is only just outside relegation spots so a bad run of games without a win would easily see Watford and others catch us.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:34 pm

We are probably getting way ahead of ourselves. 22 points in the conference is only just outside relegation spots

I thought this thread was about 'Burnley in Europe' Rovers aren't in the conference yet.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:08 pm

timshorts wrote:So we are also rooting for arsenal (or another) to win the Europa/ UEFA cup and finish outside the top 4.
We are probably getting way ahead of ourselves. 22 points in the conference is only just outside relegation spots so a bad run of games without a win would easily see Watford and others catch us.

Other than the small matter that the conference sides have played 8 more games than us, and 22 points would still leave a team 5 points above the relegation zone and the conference division (National League) has absolutely no relevance to our situation this is a good point.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:18 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:After a start like this i'd be pretty ****** off if we only finished 17th. Anyone who wouldn't be isn't a Burnley fan.

Given the start we have made a top ten finish is more than possible,if we had won our last 3 matches last season we would have finished 8/9th even with our dodgy away form now we are picking up points home and away we can dare to dream

.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:21 pm

Forty points first, then see where we end up.

Be nice to have a European tour though!

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:22 pm

Oh, to sleep. Perchance to dream.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:23 pm

I’d pawn all my possessions to watch us in Europe.

Holmeclaret · Post by **Holmeclaret** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:25 pm

Don't want to tempt fate but Saxo's been rather quiet of late.

KlyBfc · Post by **KlyBfc** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:45 pm

[quote="LoveCurryPies"]Ok, we’ve still got a long long way to go but should we finish in the top 6, what would Burnley FC playing in Europe mean to you?

Divorce and possibly the sack....

As there is no way I could miss a European Adventure and not sure either would be pleased or understanding.

SonofPog · Post by **SonofPog** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:49 pm

I think any European tie would see most of Burnley and a large chunk of exiles descend on some Eastern European town for a weekend party.

Straight up there in the "most go" category's

TurfyMoore · Post by **TurfyMoore** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:47 pm

Armenia in the middle of July, lovely...cant wait

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:21 pm

Eff off Holme claret and go f**k yr Na na na na, Na na na na.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:30 pm

In the unlikely event of this occurring,I've just checked on the rewards etc available to teams competing in the Europa League....

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/n ... 93323.html

Even if you win the damn thing, you get around £16m, you play on Thursday nights, meaning Sunday fixtures in the Premier League at least until December... we have a small squad, so why risk our probable Premier League future ? If we can lose at home to Conference Lincoln in the FA Cup, then we can certainly F**k it up away to a Slovakian/Georgian/Maltese team in early August...

We'll just tell them that we're still offended by them banning us from the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup in 1962, because we weren't a City and we didn't have an International Trade Fair, demand a one-off historical damages payment of £30m, and let some other Club, Watford perhaps, make a horlicks of the whole thing !!

D8BFC · Post by **D8BFC** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:39 pm

Malta would be lovely in early August

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:29 pm

I find it pretty exciting waking up on the day of watcythe clarets away. But to wake up and go to the airport to watch the clarets abroad would be something else.

I can't wait for the "Accy Clarets to Real Madrid" thread!