Tough Times for Coyle

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by IanMcL » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:26 pm

I don't like Irn Bru, so I am not worried.
The girders get stuck in your teeth.
Without the girders, it would not be the same.
Shame.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Blackrod » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:27 pm

KRBFC wrote:I don't understand why you're so happy to drag a club legends name through the mud, he's a nice man and loved it here.
If ever proof was needed that you are a Blackburn fan and fishing. No Burnley fan would regard him as a legend even if they show no bitterness towards him. He's a nice bloke in the same way as a Facebook 'like' is really sincere.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Greenmile » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:02 pm

Blackrod wrote:If ever proof was needed that you are a Blackburn fan and fishing. No Burnley fan would regard him as a legend even if they show no bitterness towards him. He's a nice bloke in the same way as a Facebook 'like' is really sincere.
...especially given the context of KBRFC’s libellous comments about a genuine club legend in Barry Kilby.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by ablueclaret » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:04 pm

Never been a manager so widely worshipped by fans as OC.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:08 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Never been a manager so widely worshipped by fans as OC.
Apart from you and the other troll, we're all misguided and clueless about Coyle.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:10 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Never been a manager so widely worshipped by fans as OC.
What about the current bloke in charge?
I hear he's quite popular...
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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Juan Tanamera » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:11 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Never been a manager so widely worshipped by fans as OC.
Did you run a poll on that with yourself?
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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:15 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Never been a manager so widely worshipped by fans as OC.
SD and Jimmy Mullen for two.

And Harry Potts, though "worshipped" probably wasn't the right term for those times.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:20 pm

The life of a manager is full of highs and lows.
But if Flood appointed Coyle that was at least one positive thing he did.Yes Owen did the dirty but who can forget that amazing day at Wembley.For that alone I don't wish him ill

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:22 pm

Nonayforever wrote:This thread is just like adeola Friday.
Rowls
IrnBru
Coyle
KRFBC
CT
fight
Lecture
History
Next thread ;)
You forgot ABC who managed to crawl from under his rock :lol:

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by 50 shades of Grey » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:23 pm

ablueclaret »
'Never been a manager so widely worshipped by fans as OC.'

Somebody's been emptying the medicine cupboard again, haven't they.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:25 pm

50 shades of Grey wrote:Somebody's been emptying the medicine cupboard again, haven't they.
Is that the 40% proof medicine?! :lol:

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:27 pm

The Scottish Premier League makes pretty grim reading for our Owen.

Another relegation on his CV?

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by ablueclaret » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:33 pm

Perhaps you weren't on Clarets Mad at the time, OC was guarded by the 4 horseman of the apocalypse, the coterie, a following of such intensity that utterances against him were seen as blasphemy. SD by comparison is rationally revered.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Blackrod » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:37 pm

Can't remember there being a mural of him only some tacky masks briefly.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:41 pm

Didn't we sell the ones we had left on to Bolton?

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by ablueclaret » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:41 pm

The fans loved him like no manager before or since, hence the hatred when he did the dirty, they had the rug pulled from under their feet, hence also the more realistic assessment of SD despite the his greater achievements.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:43 pm

Has a manager done the dirty like did before or since?
If no, how can you know if there would or wouldn't be a similar undercurrent of hatred?

Ah wait, you don't so you're guessing, again.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by ablueclaret » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:48 pm

He was loved, worshipped, adored, then hated in a matter of hours, God became Judas overnight and the worshippers wandered into the wilderness denouncing their Saviour.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by ablueclaret » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:50 pm

Tufty Beamish, Martin p, Darthlaw, Dandeclaret, and Lancaster never really got over it.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Right_winger » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:58 am

Coyle is just a bullshit merchant. It works for a little while then when the players stop believing it's over. He wasn't far off the sack at St.johnstone and I fully believe he would have been relieved of his duties had he stayed with us, considering the huge downward spiral we were on when he left.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by NRC » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:19 am

What ABC is trying to say is that we had collective blind faith for OC and were blighted by his treachery. As a result, SD is equally revered, if not more, but with a collective sense of realism that there will be an end point - in effect a better balanced view

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Spike » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:55 am

Just got to say that I never liked Irnbru

Coyle got lucky with a team that only needed motivation.

Coyle got us up and then showed his true colours of being a greedy and sneaky man

He stole Holden from us and didn’t need to take all the back room staff without evaluating the Bolton ones. He showed no compassion here or in sacking too many levels of staff at Bolton.

He must have been doing this through out his playing career to have had so many clubs.

We should have known he was dodgy when he left Scotland before the Cup Final

Since then he’s further blackened his name at Evilwood

No neither Irnbru or Coyle are my cup of tea

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Chobulous » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:57 am

Why all the enmity to ABC on this?. Everything he has said is true, up until his departure Owen Coyle was treated with a reverence that was almost evangelical. Anyone who denies that is either lying to themselves or weren't there at the time. That however explains the extreme reaction to his departure. Burnley fans felt betrayed because their relationship with the manager proved to be totally one-sided. That, it seems to me, is what ABC is trying to say.
As for KRBFC, again all he has said is that he liked Coyle. So what? Mr Fluffytail of course has a long enmity to KRBFC but to call that trolling is a bit beyond the pale even for him. As for the editor's Turtle-like response, get a grip.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:02 am

I disagree ablue, I got over it.

Judging by this thread though, there are still people who haven't.

OC taught me two things though

- it is possible for my football club to compete with the best
- its only a game of football. Thats all it is the end of the day.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:21 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Its only a game of football. Thats all it is the end of the day.
You are joking, right?? :lol:

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:26 am

NRC wrote:We had collective blind faith for OC and were blighted by his treachery. As a result, SD is equally revered, if not more, but with a collective sense of realism that there will be an end point - in effect a better balanced view
So, we should thank Judas for his treachery?

I'll pass on that :lol:

I remember January 2000 very well and it felt "personal".

We did have blind faith, based on everything that he said.

We allowed ourselves to be duped. Never again.

Thank you OC. Hope you get your P45 soon.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:33 am

Nope, but we should understand that all our ex-managers, even the completely out of his depth ones (Laws) or the ones that send you to sleep during games (Cotterill), or the ones who were a bit meh (Howe) all had parts to play in where we are today.

And leave it at that.

I'm not holding my breath though, its taken some posters the best part of five years to accept that it was Coyle who got us promoted and put us back on the map!

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by RammyClaret61 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:08 am

I also haven’t, and have no intention of letting go of my hatered of Coyle. I fully bought into everything he said and did at Burnley. With that win at Wembley I put him at the top of my all time Claret legends. He gave us the ride of our lives, and I’m greatful for every minute of it. But just before xmas, Mr Coyle stood in front of me and lied. Everyone knows what he told us, everyone knows what happened next. Every failure he now has I’ll celebrate. I’m convinced if none of what he did had happened we’d’ve Stayed up. The squad was I believe happy, and he was about to bring in some quality. He might have got us up. He also was a big architect in our down fall.
Long may his demise continue!!

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by aggi » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:09 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:I'm not holding my breath though, its taken some posters the best part of five years to accept that it was Coyle who got us promoted and put us back on the map!
Nah, it was all thanks to Cotterill, he got lucky, he'd been found out, where we are now is nothing to do with him as we spent the money, he couldn't spot a player, he was always untrustworthy (have I missed any out?).

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:21 am

I cannot get my head around that Rammy I'm afraid.

Without Coyle, Laws and then Howe, we wouldn't have got Sean Dyche.

Without Sean Dyche, we wouldn't be anywhere near where we are today.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by RammyClaret61 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:28 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:I cannot get my head around that Rammy I'm afraid.

Without Coyle, Laws and then Howe, we wouldn't have got Sean Dyche.

Without Sean Dyche, we wouldn't be anywhere near where we are today.
He lied to our faces, then shafted our club. All inside about 10 days.

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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Guich » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:28 am

Owen Coyle or Dele Alli?
Who has less integrity and honesty?
There's only one way to find out...

FIGHT!
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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:51 am

Guich wrote:Owen Coyle or Dele Alli?
Who has less integrity and honesty?
There's only one way to find out...

FIGHT!
Personally out of those two twatts I prefer Coyle :roll:
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Re: Tough Times for Coyle

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:29 pm

Owen Coyle was the magician who transformed this club. Yes he was hugely flawed, a tactical minnow, a man destroyed by his own hype, but for those magical few months he embodied everything that Burnley FC stood for, exciting attacking football, Roy of the rovers attitude, the use of young players and within one season he had rekindled this sleeping giant, given it back its self confidence.
Like the Labour Party is foolish to acknowledge the debt it owed Blair so we are being ungracious in not acknowledging Coyle.
He was the catalyst that set this club alight, and although many may subsequently feel let down by him, he made this club believe they could play at the highest level.
SD rightly is the manager regarded with the most affection, he is after all both the better manager and the more successful, but without Owen Coyle we would not be were we are today, he got us to this level, something we had until then only dreamed about.

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