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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:36 pm

The Expendables had an all gay cast and I didn't see any complaints about it on here.
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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Flatline » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:39 pm

Spiral wrote:Just when I thought this forum couldn't get any more ignorant, people are finding fault in the casting of a movie adaptation (and a Marvel Cinematic Universe entry, for that mater) of a comic book whose protagonist is the literal king and protector of a fictional African nation.

Wait...ha ha, silly me! It isn't the casting which is the problem, it's the 'promotion'. Yeah, nice. That'll do. 'Promotion'.
It's about a black utopia that hasn't been colonised by white folk and has advanced due to it's protective borders.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Spiral » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:44 pm

ClaretSteve wrote:Oh the drama. But no one is actually finding any fault with the casting, don’t let that stop you from trying to make something from nothing.
This is a joke, yes?

Read the first sentence in post number 1, words 10-22.

How on Earth can you make such a blunder? I genuinely feel awkward for you.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Greenmile » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:52 pm

ontario claret wrote:It's the same as the Ku Klux Klan making a film to promote their agenda.
I’m pretty sure this is a joke, but the scary thing is that I can’t be sure.
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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Flatline » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:59 pm

The SJW aren't happy it would appear.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by martin_p » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:19 am

Walt wrote: If it has been promoted as an all black cast then I think that's wrong.
It hasn’t.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by ClaretSteve » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:37 am

Spiral wrote:This is a joke, yes?

Read the first sentence in post number 1, words 10-22.

How on Earth can you make such a blunder? I genuinely feel awkward for you.

To be fair your right, I take it back. Original poster is a nub.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Sidney1st » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:28 am

Flatline wrote:It's about a black utopia that hasn't been colonised by white folk and has advanced due to it's protective borders.
Makes you wonder if Africa could've advanced without the Europeans invading, bringing their stupid religions over and dominating the populace.

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Post by Inchy » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:10 am

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:57 am

I love books by Charles Dickens but why aren't there any Australians in them? Of course, he must be racist.
The Bible is a good book but why aren't there any LBGT Americans in it? Must be racist and homophobic.

Here's a list of the greatest British films, let's see how many are dominated by an all-black cast..

The Third Man
Trainspotting
Four Weddings and a Funeral
A Clockwork Orange
Withnail and I
Life of Brian
Kes
Get Carter

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:49 pm

Good film for anyone who's interested.

Will get the back up of anyone who's feeling mildly racist :lol:

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by JohnMcGreal » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:49 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Martin Freeman and Andy Serkis are black?
No, they're Tolkien white guys*







*Shamelessly stolen from Twitter.
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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Falcon » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:59 am

Having looked into this further, it's set in a fictional African country which was never colonised by Europeans.

Given that context it would be more weird if it wasn't a predominately black cast.

My friends who are into comic book movies went to see this yesterday and say it ranks amongst their favourites ever made of that genre.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:03 am

It's a really good film and based on the source material it is clear why there's a majority African cast.

Not sure why there's any issues?

I can't wait until James Bond is played by a black guy, some people will be unable to stop frothing at the mouth.
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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:24 am

Not sure why there's any issues?
With some posters on here?

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:02 am

Who's playing the Peter Norman role?

Oh it's not a documentary about Mexico '68.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:07 am

Its based in Africa ffs, of course the majority of the cast will be black. what a non story

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:21 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:It's a really good film and based on the source material it is clear why there's a majority African cast.

Not sure why there's any issues?

I can't wait until James Bond is played by a black guy, some people will be unable to stop frothing at the mouth.
Idris Elba for Bond!!!

As for issues with Black Panther, you're joking aren't you?

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by UpTheBeehole » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:37 am

A couple more UTC posters added to the notebook

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Darthlaw » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:44 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:I can't wait until James Bond is played by a black guy, some people will be unable to stop frothing at the mouth.
I sincerely hope it's Chiwetel Ejiofor, not only a brilliant British actor but it'll make some folks head's explode just by trying to pronounce his name. :lol:

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by TVC15 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:47 am

bobinho wrote:What winds me up a little is that we somehow think (possibly because of carrying a little guilt for the way black people have been treated in the past) that positive discrimination is a way to redress the balance.

An all black musical, now a film with an all black cast. The MOBO’s (yes, I know white people can win awards there) It just reeks. In this day and age when people are screaming for integration, we have people doing this, then wondering why there is no integration! Imagine the outcry if white people set up an annual awards ceremony celebrating “whiteness”!!! This isn’t making things better ya know. Ignoring skin colour altogether and never mentioning it because it doesn’t matter will make things better. It’s almost like the industry is trying to even a score, but in reality they are keeping something alive that should be long gone.
Holy sh-it - unbelievable.
What do you suggest ? Blacking up a few white actors in true 1970s Black & White Minstrel show style ?

The industry is not trying to "even the score"....that would probably take another 50 years and a 1,000 films like this.

When you say "imagine the outcry if white people set up an annual awards dinner celebrating whiteness".....I take it you haven`t watched the Oscars ?

This is a complete non story. Few media people trying to create a bit of controversy with the "all black cast" headlines. The film company have not promoted it this way.
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Re: Black Panther film

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:52 am

It's the same sort of people who say racism is over cause there's been a black USA President.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by UpTheBeehole » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:57 am

bobinho wrote:What winds me up a little is that we somehow think (possibly because of carrying a little guilt for the way black people have been treated in the past) that positive discrimination is a way to redress the balance.

An all black musical, now a film with an all black cast. The MOBO’s (yes, I know white people can win awards there) It just reeks. In this day and age when people are screaming for integration, we have people doing this, then wondering why there is no integration! Imagine the outcry if white people set up an annual awards ceremony celebrating “whiteness”!!! This isn’t making things better ya know. Ignoring skin colour altogether and never mentioning it because it doesn’t matter will make things better. It’s almost like the industry is trying to even a score, but in reality they are keeping something alive that should be long gone.
You've heard of the Country Music Awards right?

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by TVC15 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:59 am

ontario claret wrote:It's the same as the Ku Klux Klan making a film to promote their agenda.
Is it really ? How exactly have you reached this conclusion ?

So you think that a racist organisation whose reason for being is the pure hatred and extinction of black people is the "same" as a super hero fantasy film where the back story is set in Africa (you know that country where lots of black people live ?)

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:05 pm

Darthlaw wrote:I sincerely hope it's Chiwetel Ejiofor, not only a brilliant British actor but it'll make some folks head's explode just by trying to pronounce his name. :lol:
Big Chi!
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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Darthlaw » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:37 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:You've heard of the Country Music Awards right?
Comparing Music of Black Origin to the Country Music Awards - That's a new one.

By definition, CMA's award the best music in a 'country' style whilst MOBO's award music which originated from Black people. Unless you're suggesting 'country' is a race?

Strangely enough you do see very little in the way of Blues act winners which would most likely cross both boundaries.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Squarepusher » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:18 pm

Darthlaw wrote: By definition, CMA's award the best music in a 'country' style whilst MOBO's award music which originated from Black people. Unless you're suggesting 'country' is a race?
I'm pretty sure more or less all forms of popular music have their roots in black music somewhere down the line.
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Re: Black Panther film

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:25 pm

Considering we all originated in Africa everything has black origins.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by bobinho » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:58 pm

TVC15 wrote:Holy sh-it - unbelievable.
What do you suggest ? Blacking up a few white actors in true 1970s Black & White Minstrel show style ?

The industry is not trying to "even the score"....that would probably take another 50 years and a 1,000 films like this.

When you say "imagine the outcry if white people set up an annual awards dinner celebrating whiteness".....I take it you haven`t watched the Oscars ?

This is a complete non story. Few media people trying to create a bit of controversy with the "all black cast" headlines. The film company have not promoted it this way.
So. You got fed up of waiting to “even the score” after I pulled you on your post and went rooting for summat controversial? He he, well done. To be honest, there was no need to drag something up from before I upset you, if you’d waited a little longer I would’ve done or said summat for you to pull me on anyway.

I don’t suggest anything other than just putting the right person in the right role. The right person in the right job. Etc... actors, politicians, football coaches, BBC employees, anything. If you are good enough, fair enough. If you arent, get better and try again.

Of course the industry isn’t really trying to even the score, I was just being facetious. It probably knows it can’t anyway. Nothing can change the way black people have been treated in the past, and no amount of positive discrimination can even it up. We can’t just have black people put into roles that are white roles just to prove we aren’t racist anymore than we can make male roles female. Imagine... “darkest hour is a real treat for the senses, and Idris (or Doris) Elba was outstanding as Churchill”. Just not right is it?
Strange that you think another 1000 films starring black actors only will see it closer to being even.

I haven’t watched the oscars, no. Not my thing really. Didn’t see Hattie McDaniel win one in 1939, or Viola Davis win hers in 2016, or any of the others in between.

But you are right. The film company haven’t really marketed it that way, but the actors couldn’t wait to bang on about how important and groundbreaking it was.

Anyway, is that us even now?

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by TVC15 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:58 pm

bobinho wrote:So. You got fed up of waiting to “even the score” after I pulled you on your post and went rooting for summat controversial? He he, well done. To be honest, there was no need to drag something up from before I upset you, if you’d waited a little longer I would’ve done or said summat for you to pull me on anyway.

I don’t suggest anything other than just putting the right person in the right role. The right person in the right job. Etc... actors, politicians, football coaches, BBC employees, anything. If you are good enough, fair enough. If you arent, get better and try again.

Of course the industry isn’t really trying to even the score, I was just being facetious. It probably knows it can’t anyway. Nothing can change the way black people have been treated in the past, and no amount of positive discrimination can even it up. We can’t just have black people put into roles that are white roles just to prove we aren’t racist anymore than we can make male roles female. Imagine... “darkest hour is a real treat for the senses, and Idris (or Doris) Elba was outstanding as Churchill”. Just not right is it?
Strange that you think another 1000 films starring black actors only will see it closer to being even.

I haven’t watched the oscars, no. Not my thing really. Didn’t see Hattie McDaniel win one in 1939, or Viola Davis win hers in 2016, or any of the others in between.

But you are right. The film company haven’t really marketed it that way, but the actors couldn’t wait to bang on about how important and groundbreaking it was.

Anyway, is that us even now?
Aye - ok.....not paranoid at all are you ?!!
I've been waiting all week for you to post more sh-ite -just so I could get even ?!!

How do you explain the other people calling out your bo-llox ? Are they all stalking you aswell ?

Just accept the fact that if you talk ignorant ill informed rubbish that more than likely you will get called out.

The reference to the Oscars was a little bit tongue in cheek - I thought somebody might google "black Oscar winners". You didn't let me down ! I say little bit tongue in cheek because the reality is that many black actors in the industry do believe that the Oscars / industry is institutionally racist.

Please don't tell me you think the 1,000 films I quoted was a scientific number I came up with after loads of statistical analysis - the clue is in it's rather a round number.

I can't tell whether you are being facetious again or just being thick. It's funny that when someone posts something which is a bit thick they come back and say they were being facetious or ironic.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by bobinho » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:37 pm

TVC15 wrote:Aye - ok.....not paranoid at all are you ?!!
I've been waiting all week for you to post more sh-ite -just so I could get even ?!!

How else do you explain quoting me from a post from BEFORE I pulled you up on your silliness?

How do you explain the other people calling out your bo-llox ? Are they all stalking you aswell ?

No I don't think they are. They left it at that as opposed to going looking for summat...


Just accept the fact that if you talk ignorant ill informed rubbish that more than likely you will get called out.

So you DO understand irony?

The reference to the Oscars was a little bit tongue in cheek - I thought somebody might google "black Oscar winners". You didn't let me down ! I say little bit tongue in cheek because the reality is that many black actors in the industry do believe that the Oscars / industry is institutionally racist.

They believe it. Doesn't mean its true. How about Morgan Freeman? Sidney Poitier? I knew those WITHOUT google. I knew Viola Davis too, just struggled remembering the year.

Please don't tell me you think the 1,000 films I quoted was a scientific number I came up with after loads of statistical analysis - the clue is in it's rather a round number.

Ok I wont, didn't know it was a quiz and I have to guess wtf you are on about.

I can't tell whether you are being facetious again or just being thick. It's funny that when someone posts something which is a bit thick they come back and say they were being facetious or ironic.
I'm generally facetious when trying to amusingly pass something off as irrelevant, when in fact its anything but. I leave irony well alone unless i'm speaking to my mate tiny, (he's 24 stone and 6`8"). I know you `get` irony. See above.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by TVC15 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:36 pm

I ain't got a clue what you are talking about now but you do sound very paranoid - a psychiatrist would have a field day with you and all that bold type.

I read this thread for the first time today - the only reason I pulled out your quote and the post by Ontario Claret is because they were both ridiculous.....in the same way you are overthinking a few of the media sh-it stirring on a superhero film you are over thinking that I actually give a sh-it about you.

One thing I will give you however is that in terms of pathetic posts in this thread is you are still in second place behind Ontario.

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by UpTheBeehole » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:11 pm

Just in case anyone sees these fake reports and believes them, read it here first:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman ... .rvN4Oe6o8

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by Damo » Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:11 pm

Buzz feed is my go to website whenever I want to find some fake stories

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Re: Black Panther film

Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:10 pm

My friends who are into comic book movies :lol:
With friends like that....

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