England squad to be announced at 2 p.m. today

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:21 am

Surely we'll have at least one player named

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:24 am

3-4 if he's got any sense.

Pope, Tarks, Mee & Cork.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:27 am

I think Tarky is the most likely, followed by Pope.

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:28 am

I can see it just being Tarkowski, hope I'm wrong tho, a few more deserve recognition

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:38 am

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Cork Westwood
Lennon Alli Sterling
Barnes Rashford

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:39 am

I just hope I'm writing an article this afternoon featuring more than one player

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:44 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Cork Westwood
Lennon Alli Sterling
Barnes Rashford

We’d win the World Cup with that team, but I fear we’d be like West Ham winning it in ‘66

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:46 am

If Angus Gunn gets the nod over Nick Pope then you have to ask serious questions of both Southgate and the selection process. That would be a complete joke!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:47 am

Rick_Muller wrote:We’d win the World Cup with that team, but I fear we’d be like West Ham winning it in ‘66

Marney to come on and close the game out.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:53 am

Am expecting a selection of out of form "experienced" players, some yes men and some players from the old U21's and U23's who haven't made the grade.

I so hope I'm wrong

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:00 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Marney to come on and close the game out.

Isn't Joey Barton available again for the World Cup?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:06 am

Jakubs Tash wrote:If Angus Gunn gets the nod over Nick Pope then you have to ask serious questions of both Southgate and the selection process. That would be a complete joke!

He's already been called up, so it wouldn't be a surprise.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:09 am

The biggest nonsense will come if he actually selects Glenn Murray.

I was going to start writing an article for this afternoon but it is pointless, I'd have to write too many versions. I'll just await the announcement but speculation suggests we should be confident re: Pope & Tarkowski.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:13 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Cork Westwood
Lennon Alli Sterling
Barnes Rashford

The 4-5-2 formation so often works, but with the World Cup having 7 officials per match, I suspect someone might spot the flaw.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:16 am

dsr wrote:The 4-5-2 formation so often works, but with the World Cup having 7 officials per match, I suspect someone might spot the flaw.

I even had to think how I could avoid putting alli in as well

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:20 am

Would go for just Tarkowski I reckon. Think Hart/Gunn will end up being called up over Pope. Could argue that Lascelles and Dunk will have more chance than me. Interested to see if he calls up a 23 man squad or 30.

Glenn Murray deserves it if we're calling players up based on form, can't argue against his stats this season in a team that was expected to struggle.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:22 am

Milltown1882 wrote:Glenn Murray deserves it if we're calling players up based on form, can't argue against his stats this season in a team that was expected to struggle.

He's 34 and as slow as a cart horse and, other than pens, he's scored 7 Premier League goals this season. There is nothing there to suggest he should be getting a call up.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:26 am

11 goals this season, a goal every 157 minutes (better than Vardy) it doesn't matter how he's scored them he's still scored them. As I said if it's based on form then he is deserving of a call up, I agree with the slow as a cart horse comment but think it's an unfair assessment given the amount of goals he has scored this season. Who would you recommend instead?

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:29 am

Ryan Mason on SSN just now and I have to agree with him that we have the best two keepers in the country at the moment for both form and all round performances.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:36 am

4 forwards from those available is difficult, but for me would have to go with Vardy, Rashford, Wellbeck (experience and decent on his day) and you could make a claim for the fourth shockingly being Murray as he scores goals, Wilson (pace and power and can score) or even our Ash as he is in form offers something different to the rest and is younger than Murray.

All in all without Kane it looks scary. BTW I would class Stirling and Lingaard as midfielders.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:39 am

Laughable that anyone can trumpet Barnes for a call up and dismiss Glenn Murray.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:41 am

ClaretTony wrote:He's 34 and as slow as a cart horse and, other than pens, he's scored 7 Premier League goals this season. There is nothing there to suggest he should be getting a call up.

He has also missed some

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:45 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:Laughable that anyone can trumpet Barnes for a call up and dismiss Glenn Murray.

I'm the one that has dismissed Murray and I've not trumpeted Barnes - so no one to laugh at from what I can see. Having said that, I do think Barnes would be a better bet than Murray. Surely we are not going to select him.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:46 am

Goobs wrote:4 forwards from those available is difficult, but for me would have to go with Vardy, Rashford, Wellbeck (experience and decent on his day) and you could make a claim for the fourth shockingly being Murray as he scores goals, Wilson (pace and power and can score) or even our Ash as he is in form offers something different to the rest and is younger than Murray.

All in all without Kane it looks scary. BTW I would class Stirling and Lingaard as midfielders.

Without Kane we are very short.

Wellbeck has never let England down and Rashford is the future alongside Kane.

I would sooner pick Ryan Sessengon than Glen Murray and move him from left back to forward!!! (Could be our Bale moment).

Failing that who do you pick? None of the youngsters have earnt their chance yet. Maybe Calvert Lewin but thats just a desperate suggestion. Perhaps Barnes could make it after all?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:48 am

Milltown1882 wrote:11 goals this season, a goal every 157 minutes (better than Vardy) it doesn't matter how he's scored them he's still scored them. As I said if it's based on form then he is deserving of a call up, I agree with the slow as a cart horse comment but think it's an unfair assessment given the amount of goals he has scored this season. Who would you recommend instead?

No idea - but it is 7 in open play. If he is deserving of a call up then we're going backwards.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:53 am

ClaretTony wrote:No idea - but it is 7 in open play. If he is deserving of a call up then we're going backwards.

To be fair we went backwards the day we ousted Sven!

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:54 am

The Under 21 squad will probably give a good indication of who will be involved when that is released before the senior announcement. James Ward-Prowse could be another one getting a call up, he's been in the Under 21s since about 1996.

Just read on Sky Sports Wilshere will be back in so doubt Cork will be involved.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:55 am

From Reuters "Suggestions that Pope and Tarkowski could be in the England squad. Neither of them were even first-team starters at Burnley this time last year."

ArmchairDetective · Post by **ArmchairDetective** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:57 am

"I believe Burnley, in terms of form and potential, have got the two best keepers that England have" - Ryan Mason on Sky Sports News this morning analysing England's keeper options.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:57 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:He's already been called up, so it wouldn't be a surprise.

Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised either but I'd like to know what it would be based on...

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:01 pm

Deserved but not necessarily rewarded.
I am not holding my breath. Southgate likes players from his time with the young players.

Makes it look like he guided them all through to success.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:02 pm

Both Pope and Tarks in, according to twitter.

Well deserved

edison · Post by **edison** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:03 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Both Pope and Tarks in, according to twitter.

Well deserved

Excellent

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:03 pm

"Been sworn to secrecy but it’s out, Nick Pope and James Tarkowski in the England squad to be named at 2 pm. News on back of tomorrow’s @BXSport which went to print this morning"

edison · Post by **edison** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:09 pm

Been sworn to secrecy, but **** it i'm too excited...

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:14 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Both Pope and Tarks in, according to twitter.

Well deserved

According to whom on Twitter? Anyone reliable or just some random?

According to UpTheClarets, Peter Crouch is getting called up.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:15 pm

Tall Paul wrote:According to whom on Twitter? Anyone reliable or just some random?

The Times and Reuters said it. Lancashire Telegraph and Burnley Express said they've both gone to print with it though.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:15 pm

Great times when our second best goalkeeper and second best centre back get England call ups!

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:16 pm

Superb news - well done Nick Pope and Tarky!!

Shame about Mee's exclusion again but, hand on heart, Tarkowski is a better footballer than Mee and I think this may ultimately hold Mee back from international recognition.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:22 pm

I'll wait until 2pm before celebrating but there was talk last week that he would select Pope and Gunn. Probably to take his staffs advice on them.
Tarks will probably get the nod but Ben Mee as a left side defender should be closer than I believe he is.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:23 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:The Times and Reuters said it. Lancashire Telegraph and Burnley Express said they've both gone to print with it though.

Fair enough.

Congratulations to them both!

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:24 pm

Chris boden Tall Paul, and most of the newspapers.

edison · Post by **edison** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:24 pm

"Simon Evans
@sgevans
5m5 minutes ago
More
Want to be an England centre-half? Play alongside Ben Mee for a year.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:27 pm

edison wrote:"Simon Evans
@sgevans
5m5 minutes ago
More
Want to be an England centre-half? Play alongside Ben Mee for a year.

Potential to throw Kevin Long's Ireland call up in the mix with that one too.

edison · Post by **edison** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:28 pm

exactly

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:34 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Without Kane we are very short.

Wellbeck has never let England down and Rashford is the future alongside Kane.

I would sooner pick Ryan Sessengon than Glen Murray and move him from left back to forward!!! (Could be our Bale moment).

Failing that who do you pick? None of the youngsters have earnt their chance yet. Maybe Calvert Lewin but thats just a desperate suggestion. Perhaps Barnes could make it after all?

I don't think Calvert-Lewin is a desperate suggestion. He looks a very good prospect. He's played a lot of games for Everton this season and shows promise. I'd call up Vardy, Rashford and Calvert-Lewin in this squad. Absolutely no point in calling up Murray, Crouch or Defoe as they offer nothing for the future. I'd be tempted to take those three and Kane to the WC personally.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:56 pm

How long till Billy Mercer is poached by the England setup?

BroadIslandClaret · Post by **BroadIslandClaret** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:59 pm

I`m going for Tarkowski only. No Pope. Utterly pathetic but true, I fear. Hart will be in there and Southgate will bang on about experience and form being only temporary, class permanent.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:02 pm

Ben Mee must wonder what he has to do

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:02 pm

BroadIslandClaret wrote:I`m going for Tarkowski only. No Pope. Utterly pathetic but true, I fear. Hart will be in there and Southgate will bang on about experience and form being only temporary, class permanent.

He wont though. Southgates shown hes happy to make bold choices. Yet people still criticise him. He will pick pope. Amd he wont pick Hart.