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cricketfieldclarets
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by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:32 pm
Wood scores. Burnley fans proceed to sing Rodriguezs name.

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Chester Perry
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by Chester Perry » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:01 pm
Thought Jay looked too bulky - hell of a lot of muscle on him now
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by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:09 pm
Shadow of the player he was at Southampton prior to his injury,sad to see.
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by cutsy123 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:18 pm
Cant believe people want him back..
Woeful
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by IanMcL » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:19 pm
Classy. Dychefit...lethal!
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by Spijed » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:27 pm
Steve1956 wrote:Shadow of the player he was at Southampton prior to his injury,sad to see.
His injury shouldn't make any difference. Both Vokes and Barnes had similar and are now far better players since.
Perhaps it was a case of a couple of very good seasons at Southampton and he's now just performing at his correct level.
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by pushpinpussy » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:28 pm
past his best. please dont bring him back
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cricketfieldclarets
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by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:29 pm
He left us when we were a midtable championship side. He was good for us at that level and had a lot of potential. But we are so far ahead of where we were then.
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by MACCA » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:29 pm
Would take him over Vokes at the minute, Vokes looks like he's got very, very heavy boots
Jay looked mobile and took up some good positions
Confused about the song though, we had just scored.
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by BurnleyFC » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:30 pm
You certainly wouldn’t swap either Wood or Barnes for him on current form.
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by MACCA » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:33 pm
BurnleyFC wrote:You certainly wouldn’t swap either Wood or Barnes for him on current form.
Absolutely Not, but for Vokes or Walters in a heartbeat.
He'd improve under Mr Dyche, and I don't think he Did too bad today considering.
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by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:33 pm
What makes me laugh is how much Burnley fans slag Gray off. The man who fired us to promotion, helped keep us up and made us 10 plus million profit. Yet sing the name of an opponent who also left us.
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by Lord Beamish » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:34 pm
As much as I like Jay Rodriguez, and how good he was for us in the Championship, I wouldn’t want him back now. We need to be bringing the Next Jay Rodriguez on, either through our own System, or by shopping around wisely.
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by BurnleyFC » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:37 pm
MACCA wrote:Absolutely Not, but for Vokes or Walters in a heartbeat.
He'd improve under Mr Dyche, and I don't think he Did too bad today considering.
I doubt he’d come here to sit on our bench, though, which is exactly what he’d have to do.
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by MACCA » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:42 pm
BurnleyFC wrote:I doubt he’d come here to sit on our bench, though, which is exactly what he’d have to do.
We'd need options though, we couod play 50+ games next season.
If Barnes or Vokes gets injured, there's nothing behind them that look capable of scoring regularly.
I also think he can play about 2 or 3 positions which is good.
Anyway, whoever we get will need to work hard to knock these 2 from starting
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by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:43 pm
Spijed wrote:His injury shouldn't make any difference. Both Vokes and Barnes had similar and are now far better players since.
Perhaps it was a case of a couple of very good seasons at Southampton and he's now just performing at his correct level.
Got an England call Spijed and was playing at his best..injuries affect people in different ways I was just saying he not the same player,where as Barnes has got better after his,it's just sad for Jay that he's now back as a Championship player,another nudge to our current players...the grass isn't always greener.
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by claretdj » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:47 pm
Would rather have Rondon pace n power..
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by Paul Waine » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:57 pm
WBA will be selling several players at the end of the season. Maybe Jay will want to "come home" and be guided back to his best by Sean Dyche?
If we have Marney and Bardsley on the bench today (I know they are there for different positions) and Walters getting back to fitness, maybe Jay has got something to offer the squad - with a lot more expected of the team next season.
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by bfcjg » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:00 pm
Would he want to return? Would he take a salary drop if the reported wages WBA players are on ? For me he isn't good enough for a top half Prem team.
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by Paul Waine » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:09 pm
bfcjg wrote:Would he want to return? Would he take a salary drop if the reported wages WBA players are on ? For me he isn't good enough for a top half Prem team.
Don't forget WBA are saying that there's "no money for wages." What's a contract worth if the club that holds it is relegated and hasn't got the money to pay you?
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by tally » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:09 pm
will take a salary drop next season anyway ..........dont know his contract btw
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by Greenmile » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:13 pm
Best player for WBA by a mile today, IMO.
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by claretspice » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:13 pm
The brain is still there and some of his movement and positions he took up around the box were lovely, but he seemed a bit ponderous to me. Perhaps as a second striker in a 442, but I'm a bit doubtful he has the 'snap' which would warrant a significant outlay on him.
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by Vegas Claret » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:15 pm
bfcjg wrote:Would he want to return? Would he take a salary drop if the reported wages WBA players are on ? For me he isn't good enough for a top half Prem team.
A friend of mine was out with him in Burnley a couple of weeks ago, Jay said he wouldn't get in our team

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by CBT » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:19 pm
cricketfieldclarets wrote:He left us when we were a midtable championship side. He was good for us at that level and had a lot of potential. But we are so far ahead of where we were then.
Nah have to disagree he would bag us some goals still I think
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by nyclaret » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:23 pm
Is he better than Walters? Yes.
Is he better than Wells? Yes.
Would he improve our squad? Yes.
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by nyclaret » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:25 pm
cricketfieldclarets wrote:What makes me laugh is how much Burnley fans slag Gray off. The man who fired us to promotion, helped keep us up and made us 10 plus million profit. Yet sing the name of an opponent who also left us.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that he made over 125 appearances for the club and is a Claret himself??
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by Ooogeorgeorgeoghani » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:42 pm
nyclaret wrote:Is he better than Walters? Yes.
Is he better than Wells? Yes.
Would he improve our squad? Yes.
I had actually forgotten about wells, shame for him but won't get a chance now
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by jurek » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:51 pm
Was at the match today and got talking to a Baggies fan
who reckon Jay is on 70k a week.
So if we were after another forward and I suspect we will be then
we could probably get him given his slary is likely to drop by 50% if he stays
but also feel we will go for someone else instead.
Who that is I don't know but possibly Dyche will give Wells a run out to see if he can prove
he's premiership class. If not then he'll be on his way, me thinks.
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by Murger » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:55 pm
At his best, he was in the England reckoning. Would absolutely get back to that level under Dyche.
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by bfccrazy » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:14 pm
Vegas Claret wrote:A friend of mine was out with him in Burnley a couple of weeks ago, Jay said he wouldn't get in our team

Heard that he would have come back in Jan and took a wage drop but we didn't want him.
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by Vino blanco » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:17 pm
He is the only WBA player I would be slightly interested in, when they get relegated. The rest of them, nah.
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by John Johnson 1605 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:23 pm
Wouldn't touch him due to his injury record and inconsistent form.
Had he not been an ex player I doubt anyone would be remotely interested.
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by DuckworthsEA » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:26 pm
Vino blanco wrote:He is the only WBA player I would be slightly interested in, when they get relegated. The rest of them, nah.
He isn’t better than Rondon. And Jonny Evans is a better back up than Long.
Jay Rod was poor today sad to see, a backwards step if we signed him.
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by bfccrazy » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:26 pm
Vino blanco wrote:He is the only WBA player I would be slightly interested in, when they get relegated. The rest of them, nah.
I'd have Rondon in a snip. The way we play would suit him to a tee - I love Barnes but see Rondon as a bit of an upgrade to him.
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by Sidney1st » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:27 pm
We could get similar for less money so I'd rather we did that.
Let's move on people.
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by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:27 pm
First time he’s played a full season in a long while.
In a poor side.
I wouldn’t be unhappy to see him back here next season.
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by Sidney1st » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:27 pm
bfccrazy wrote:I'd have Rondon in a snip. The way we play would suit him to a tee - I love Barnes but see Rondon as a bit of an upgrade to him.
Why?
Rondon isn't a regular goalscorer, we'd be better off keeping Barnes.
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by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:33 pm
Sidney1st wrote:Why?
Rondon isn't a regular goalscorer, we'd be better off keeping Barnes.
Rondons records better than Barnes'.
Not that id drop Barnes. Just saying though.
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by bfccrazy » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:39 pm
Sidney1st wrote:Why?
Rondon isn't a regular goalscorer, we'd be better off keeping Barnes.
Rondon has the raw pace that Barnes doesn't as he showed with the straight race with Lowton today. He has the same knack as Barnes for getting goals out of nothing and seems like he has the Bartonesque drive to win a game which would fit our side well.
Also, if he came here - I have no doubt Barnes would end up scoring 20 a season just to keep Rondon on the bench

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by Sidney1st » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:40 pm
9-8-6 so far in Rondons last 3 PL seasons for league goals in 102 appearances.
5-6-6 so far in Barnes last 3 seasons for league goals in 92 appearances.
Barely anything in it especially when Barnes was mainly a sub last season.
For the money it would cost to get Rondon he's hardly an upgrade on Barnes.
You'd also expect Barnes to finish the season with more goals than Rondon.
No thanks.
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by warksclaret » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:27 pm
Unfortunately like most of the Albion team he looked dis-interested and lacking in confidence
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by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:31 pm
nyclaret wrote:Maybe it has something to do with the fact that he made over 125 appearances for the club and is a Claret himself??
A similar number to promotion winning captain, and rovers slayer Jason Shackell.
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by KRBFC » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:41 pm
I don't like the way he left, not something I would expect from a local lad. I don't think he's been great for a while but I'd have him back because I believe if Dyche got him into the best shape of his career and motivated he could be very good for us.
(Yes regardless of the stupid s**t I said the other week to get a reaction)
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by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:51 pm
Dyche, Keane and Jay Rod all refusing to sign your autograph book?
Maybe it’s the way you ask?
At least Jay Rod seems to be on the road to forgiveness.
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by SirAlec » Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:53 pm
Would take j rod back in a heartbeat. Dyche gets the best out of players and we’ve seen what I rod is capable of, exactly the type of player Sean likes imo
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by KRBFC » Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:57 pm
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by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:18 am
Aww. Perhaps you shouldn’t admit you look for a reaction then cry when you get one.
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by burnmark » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:21 am
Extremely strong rumour he will be signing in the summer.
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by IanMcL » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:30 am
He has a football brain and can also play wide. In the box with his heading ability....goals.
Europe starts early and demands much. Sign gmhim on.