Almonds

claretnproud · Post by **claretnproud** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:47 pm

so do you pronounce it ARMONDS or ALMONDS.
Almonds all the way for me.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:50 pm

Almonds

ColonelCool · Post by **ColonelCool** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:51 pm

That's just nuts.

Smallpaul · Post by **Smallpaul** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:52 pm

Dyche or ditche

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:55 pm

I'm agate, Almonds.

spadesclaret · Post by **spadesclaret** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:55 pm

Armonds - just as I would pronounce almshouse as armshouse.

ColonelCool · Post by **ColonelCool** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:57 pm

claretnproud wrote:so do you pronounce it ARMONDS or ALMONDS.
Almonds all the way for me.

Almonds. Not sure why anybody would pronounce it armonds unless they think thats how you spell it.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:59 pm

Olmunds

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:00 pm

spadesclaret wrote:Armonds - just as I would pronounce almshouse as armshouse.

You're a posh sort though.

spadesclaret · Post by **spadesclaret** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:05 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:You're a posh sort though.

Well, yes.

How do you pronounce alms?

PS - may we please dispel this rumour that I am posh. If in doubt just ask !Aiboforcen.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:09 pm

Wow!

I was in the charity shop today after work and almond oil came up in a conversation, she said "you could try using armond oil"....I left the shop toying with both alternative pronunciations in my head - armond almond armond almond - I had never ever before given this a thought.

I've only just got my chores done and decided to Google almond oil to see if it would do the required job, still playing around with both pronunciations in my head. As I was searching I opened another tab up to see what was going on on Uptheclarets and saw this thread straight away.

This kind of thing is happening to me way way way too frequently these days

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:10 pm

Spades has the correct British pronunciation. Ol-monds is the American way of saying the word.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:11 pm

It's definitely Almond.

I also used to go out with a girl from Chicago who introduced me to the American pronunciation of Apricot. WTF.

!aiboforceN · Post by **!aiboforceN** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:13 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:You're a posh sort though.

You've clearly never met her. I've known her for more than 50 years - and never once did Spades even approximate "posh" !

spadesclaret · Post by **spadesclaret** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:15 pm

!aiboforceN wrote:You've clearly never met her. I've known her for more than 50 years - and never once did Spades even approximate "posh" !

There's no need to overdo it!

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:15 pm

My Alse.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:18 pm

martin_p wrote:Spades has the correct British pronunciation. Ol-monds is the American way of saying the word.

What's the correct British pronunciation of Burnley?

Now try telling someone who was born and bred there what it is.

claretnproud · Post by **claretnproud** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:20 pm

one word that throws a spanner in the works is PALM. almost no one calls it palm pronouncing the L. The yanks seem to pronounce the l as in arnold palmer .

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:44 pm

That Aussie bloke on Masterchef just pronounced it armond.

claretnproud · Post by **claretnproud** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:45 pm

take no notice of him, all his relatives were convicts.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:38 pm

One of the funniest things I seen in my family is when my brother was dishing out some chocolates one Christmas. My dad asked him if there was any nuts in it, my brother inspected the packaging, turning it over, reading the the ingredients and small print and eventually replied, “I don’t know”.

My dad beginning to get frustrated snapped back and asked “well, what does it say on the packet?!” My brother looked again carefully and the front and replied “all monds”

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:50 pm

Walton wrote:It's definitely Almond.

I also used to go out with a girl from Chicago who introduced me to the American pronunciation of Apricot. WTF.

The wife's a Scot, she says appricut. Unculutred wench.

paulus the woodgnome · Post by **paulus the woodgnome** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:10 am

I believe the Marc Almond rumour might be fake news

ColonelCool · Post by **ColonelCool** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:18 am

The correct way to say it is "Aul-mond" - so the L is mentioned, just not as you'd expect. It's still mentioned though if you say it correctly.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:19 am

It's not "Armond" though, is it? It's more "åmond", no?

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:21 am

ColonelCool wrote:The correct way to say it is "Aul-mond" - so the L is mentioned, just not as you'd expect. It's still mentioned though if you say it correctly.

OED says the 'l' is silent.

ColonelCool · Post by **ColonelCool** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:23 am

thatdberight wrote:It's not "Armond" though, is it? It's more "åmond", no?

That's even worse. I say more like "Arlmond". But Spades is meant to be an ex teacher and even she doesn't say it correctly, so what hope have the rest of us got.

spadesclaret · Post by **spadesclaret** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:06 am

ColonelCool wrote: But Spades is meant to be an ex teacher and even she doesn't say it correctly, so what hope have the rest of us got.

1. Meant to be? What is that meant to mean?

2. How do you know I don't say it correctly? I simply answered the OP's question which gave me a choice of two answers.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:15 am

Arlmund

ColonelCool · Post by **ColonelCool** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:52 am

spadesclaret wrote:1. Meant to be? What is that meant to mean?
2. How do you know I don't say it correctly? I simply answered the OP's question which gave me a choice of two answers.

You know you've hit a nerve when...

ColonelCool · Post by **ColonelCool** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:53 am

IanMcL wrote:Arlmund

You know you've hit a nerve with somebody who blows smoke up a person's backside when..

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:32 am

... he has piles?

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:15 am

"Armond" - not for me, but what about:
Calm, embalm, palm, psalm, etc., so it would be quite feasible.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:21 am

Saw an ad on TV the other night - 2 American teenagers crash the car while arguing about whether it's Armunds or Amunds

The crash did not appear to be fatal unfortunately

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:59 am

nil_desperandum wrote:"Armond" - not for me, but what about:
Calm, embalm, palm, psalm, etc., so it would be quite feasible.

There's no 'r' in the pronunciation of any of those unless you're from Baarth. It's a long 'a' sound.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:18 am

thatdberight wrote:There's no 'r' in the pronunciation of any of those unless you're from Baarth. It's a long 'a' sound.

You're totally correct. A more phonetic way would perhaps be to write "C- ah- m". (Was going to post similar earlier).
However, the main point is that the "l" isn't pronounced in any of those examples, so there's no reason why it has to be in "almond".

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:38 am

nil_desperandum wrote:You're totally correct. A more phonetic way would perhaps be to write "C- ah- m". (Was going to post similar earlier).
However, the main point is that the "l" isn't pronounced in any of those examples, so there's no reason why it has to be in "almond".

Sorry. I understand now and agree. I'm going to keep saying åmond.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:38 pm

spadesclaret wrote:Well, yes.

How do you pronounce alms?

PS - may we please dispel this rumour that I am posh. If in doubt just ask !Aiboforcen.

Same way as legs ('egs).

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:40 pm

While we're on the subject why do we (correctly) pronounce book 'buck' but we don't pronounce boot as 'butt'?

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:02 pm

houseboy wrote:While we're on the subject why do we (correctly) pronounce book 'buck' but we don't pronounce boot as 'butt'?

It's not 'buck' (rhymes with 'luck', 'chuck') but a separate sub-group of 'u' & 'oo' words like wolf, sugar. Who knows why. The roots are quite dissimilar so they probably dragged some of their origin with them. Most people these days seem to say 'booʔ' anyway so the vowel sound is the least of our problems.

DustyBawls · Post by **DustyBawls** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:05 pm

I say it as 'allmond'. The L is definitely not silent when I say it. In fact, I say, "Almond with an L".

I don't really.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:32 pm

Didn't they sing a song about a long haired lover from Liverpool?

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:49 pm

thatdberight wrote:It's not 'buck' (rhymes with 'luck', 'chuck') but a separate sub-group of 'u' & 'oo' words like wolf, sugar. Who knows why. The roots are quite dissimilar so they probably dragged some of their origin with them. Most people these days seem to say 'booʔ' anyway so the vowel sound is the least of our problems.

As someone who has done a good deal of writing I find language fascinating. Even as an 'insider' I think the English language must be awful to learn, having so many words spelt the same but with different meanings and emphases. I asked a guy once what he thought of semantics and he said he had nothing against Jews.
My personal favourite is the word Psychotherapist: if you change the emphasis it becomes Psycho the Rapist, which seems kind of apt really.

Aah, fun with words.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:04 pm

Aa-rlmunds

So both. At the same time