Europa League Thread

[jedi_master]

Surely we can beat a bunch of part time postmen!

Remember Trelleborgs.....!

I will take nothing for granted, to be honest the chance to go somewhere utterly mental on a Thursday night for the Qualifier is as exciting to me as any potential trip to the San Siro, Amsterdam ArenA, Stadio Olimpico or any of the others.

The sheer adventure is just going to be awesome - best present Burnley FC could have ever given us.

[Bin Ont Turf]

We're all going on a Europa holiday
No more working for a day or two
Cork and Tarky on our Europa holiday
No more Orient's for me and you
Cos we're Claret and Blue

We're going where the Clarets shine brightly
We're going where the flag is blue
We've all seen it on the tellies
Now let's see if it's true

Everybody has a Europa holiday
Doing things that could not be true
So we're going on our Europa holiday
To make our dreams come true
For we're Claret and Blue

[groove]

All this talk about 7th place to get in Europe, is everyone forgetting that we would be in the 3rd qualifying round, a 2 legged tie against a side that must have already won a couple of games to get to the 3rd qualifying round? Or have I got it wrong and we go straight into the group stage? Cheers chaps UTC

[bfccrazy]

So, what you're saying is - we'll be playing 2 legs of a qualifying round.... one of which will be abroad.

Meaning we will be playing in Europe?

[Vino blanco]

I believe we won't be allowed in the competition anyway, because Burnley voted for Brexit.

[RammyClaret61]

That would be the 3rd qualifying round.... in Europe!!

[RingoMcCartney]

Which ever way you slice it. It's Europe.

In fact, you could argue, that every game we've ever played has been in Europe!

[groove]

Ahh right. You lot are viewing the qualifying round as playing in Europe. We are guaranteed a qualifier against a foreign side. If we win that, we are in Europe. Not before imho.

[bfcjg]

As it is before March next year a game against Oswaldtwisle Casuals would be in Europe.

[RingoMcCartney]

Ahh right. You lot are viewing the qualifying round as playing in Europe. We are guaranteed a qualifier against a foreign side. If we win that, we are in Europe. Not before imho.

Come on matey, I've just got in and got the house to my self. All we've talked about since the final whistle blew is where we'd want to go! Don't rain on my parade!

7th in the prem.

1 defeat in 8

New signings and upgrades to come.

European footy next season

As a Burnley fan, does it actually get any better!!!???

[ElectroClaret]

We are guaranteed a qualifier against a foreign side.

A European side.

That's why its referred to as "Europe".
Ya donut.

[RingoMcCartney]

As it is before March next year a game against Oswaldtwisle Casuals would be in Europe.

Oswaldtwisle Casuals? That's not Europe.

Its the USA.

Uther Side of Accrington!

[martin_p]

If we draw one of the Israeli sides and get knocked out, will we have played in Europe?????? The mystery deepens!

[ElectroClaret]

Israel was admitted to UEFA in 1991.
So in footie terms, they're European.

[dsr]

All this talk about 7th place to get in Europe, is everyone forgetting that we would be in the 3rd qualifying round, a 2 legged tie against a side that must have already won a couple of games to get to the 3rd qualifying round? Or have I got it wrong and we go straight into the group stage? Cheers chaps UTC

You're right that we don't go straight into the group stage, but you're wrong in your belief that the Europa League isn't a European competition until the group stages.

[Dazzler]

All this talk about 7th place to get in Europe, is everyone forgetting that we would be in the 3rd qualifying round, a 2 legged tie against a side that must have already won a couple of games to get to the 3rd qualifying round? Or have I got it wrong and we go straight into the group stage? Cheers chaps UTC

You don't come here often do you...?

[bfccrazy]

You're right that we don't go straight into the group stage, but you're wrong in your belief that the Europa League isn't a European competition until the group stages.

The FA Cup doesn't exist til last 16 .......

[box_of_frogs]

What if we’re playing TNS or similar? Does that count as Europe?

[KlyBfc]

As long as I have to cross a vast amount of water by boat or plane I’m classing it as going into Europe to watch the clarets. If we get knocked out in the qualifying rounds so be it, but that opportunity, that trip and this whole season will live long in my memory and be placed right up there alongside, York, Wembley x2, Beating the Rovers hoodoo and Charlton in moments I will cherish.

[TopCat]

We know when the draws are, but when will know who we could play?

[jrgbfc]

We know when the draws are, but when will know who we could play?

After the draw I'm guessing!

[Claretforever]

The “qualifying” name is purely for the group element of the competition.

Every single round is within this competition. It’s european football.

[ian]

19 June: First & second qualifying round draws
26 July: Second qualifying round, first leg
2 August: Second qualifying round, second leg

[KeighleyClaret]

Now that Uefa have qualified their rules so that we know 7th equals Round 2 of the Qualifying comp, we need to do everything possible to finish above Arsenal to go into the Group stage.

Man U can do us a favour today, Arsenal have away games v Leicester (9th) and Huddersfield (13th), neither of which are a given. We have a home game v Bournemouth to finish on 13th.

3 points behind - assuming Arsenal lose today - a win by us at the Emirates next Sunday means its down to the last 2 games (them) and last game (us). There is still a lot to play for! If they lose to Man U and to us they can only finish on 63 points; with 2 wins we can get to 60. So they would need to win 1 out of their 2 remaining away games to confirm 6th, and with the distraction of Europa League in between.

So we need maximum effort (and support) to win our last 2 games, especially if Arsenal lose today. Two wins for us vs a loss and 2 draws for them will do it! And that is quite possible given Arsenal havent won an away point in 2018.

[martin_p]

Now that Uefa have qualified their rules so that we know 7th equals Round 2 of the Qualifying comp, we need to do everything possible to finish above Arsenal to go into the Group stage.

Man U can do us a favour today, Arsenal have away games v Leicester (9th) and Huddersfield (13th), neither of which are a given. We have a home game v Bournemouth to finish on 13th.

3 points behind - assuming Arsenal lose today - a win by us at the Emirates next Sunday means its down to the last 2 games (them) and last game (us). There is still a lot to play for! If they lose to Man U and to us they can only finish on 63 points; with 2 wins we can get to 60. So they would need to win 1 out of their 2 remaining away games to confirm 6th, and with the distraction of Europa League in between.

So we need maximum effort (and support) to win our last 2 games, especially if Arsenal lose today. Two wins for us vs a loss and 2 draws for them will do it! And that is quite possible given Arsenal havent won an away point in 2018.

I think the slim chance of sixth disappeared with yesterday’s draw really.

[jrgbfc]

So all we'll find out on 19th June is that we'll be playing either for example Lech Poznan or Shamrock Rovers, dependent on the first qualifying round. At least we'll know when we are playing the away leg so we can get the days booked off work etc. Then it will just be a mad scramble to book flights as soon as the outcome of the first round is known!

[piston broke]

For this season. Not as lucrative as the CL but not to be sniffed at.

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[Spijed]

I think the slim chance of sixth disappeared with yesterday’s draw really.

Had we won yesterday it would have been game on, but as you say 6th is now a long shot!

[Wile E Coyote]

Winners – €6.5m (£5.77m)

well, we have the above sum to look forward to swelling our club coffers in a few short months.

[Bullabill]

The winners will get a lot more than that - they win as they go along is how I read it.

[claretandy]

Its the tv money that is the big prize, saints made 15m from the group stages last year.

[Jmw]

Has there been any discussion between the club and supporters groups on ticket allocation? How on earth do they manage 500 ticket allocation in Norway with 10,000 wanting to go?!

[Imploding Turtle]

Has there been any discussion between the club and supporters groups on ticket allocation? How on earth do they manage 500 ticket allocation in Norway with 10,000 wanting to go?!

10,000

Dream on.

[Jmw]

Whether it is 3,000 or 10,000 doesn’t matter, same problems.

[Imploding Turtle]

Whether it is 3,000 or 10,000 doesn’t matter, same problems.

I enjoyed your earlier optimism though.

[ClaretAndJew]

Just been reading about the second qualifying round. It seems like a massive slog to just get to the group stages so we're gonna have to enjoy it whilst we can, it might only be a short European stint.

[ClaretDiver]

Just been reading about the second qualifying round. It seems like a massive slog to just get to the group stages so we're gonna have to enjoy it whilst we can, it might only be a short European stint.

Who cares it's Burnley in Europe!!!

[ClaretAndJew]

Who cares it's Burnley in Europe!!!

No, I'm just remarking upon the difficulty of the competition from this round onwards. We could literally be playing just two games in Europe. All this hype for what could potentially be nothing.

Then if we get through that there's heaps more qualifying to do, before the actual group stages.

There's the 3rd qualifying round then the play off round THEN the group stages.

I'm gonna just enjoy every minute.

[ClaretDiver]

No, I'm just remarking upon the difficulty of the competition from this round onwards. We could literally be playing just two games in Europe. All this hype for what could potentially be nothing.

Then if we get through that there's heaps more qualifying to do, before the actual group stages.

There's the 3rd qualifying round then the play off round THEN the group stages.

I'm gonna just enjoy every minute.

Blooming Nora I didn't realise that lol! Here's hoping we have a good run!!!

[ClaretAndJew]

This might be a slog of a read but here it is

Second qualifying round
The second qualifying round is split into two separate sections: Champions Path (for league champions) and League Path (for cup winners and league non-champions).

The draw for the second qualifying round will be held on 19 June 2018 (after the completion of the first qualifying round draw). The first legs will be played on 26 July, and the second legs will be played on 2 August 2018.

A total of 94 teams are expected to play in the second qualifying round:

Champions Path

The 17 losers of the 2018–19 UEFA Champions League first qualifying round, and the three losers of the 2018–19 UEFA Champions League preliminary round.

League Path

27 teams which enter in this round, and the 47 winners of the first qualifying round.

Spain Seventh-placed team of 2017–18 La Liga
Germany Sixth-placed team of 2017–18 Bundesliga
England Seventh-placed team of 2017–18 Premier League
Italy Sixth-placed team of 2017–18 Serie A
France Fifth-placed team of 2017–18 Ligue 1
Russia Fifth-placed team of 2017–18 Russian Premier League
Portugal Fourth-placed team of 2017–18 Primeira Liga
Ukraine Fifth-placed team of 2017–18 Ukrainian Premier League
Belgium Winners of 2017–18 Belgian First Division A Europa League play-offs
Turkey Fourth-placed team of 2017–18 Süper Lig
Czech Republic Fourth-placed team of 2017–18 Czech First League
Switzerland Fourth-placed team of 2017–18 Swiss Super League
Netherlands Third-placed team of 2017–18 Eredivisie
Netherlands Winners of 2017–18 Eredivisie Europa League play-offs
Greece Fourth-placed team of 2017–18 Superleague Greece
Greece Fifth-placed team of 2017–18 Superleague Greece
Austria Third-placed team of 2017–18 Austrian Football Bundesliga
Austria Fourth-placed team or fifth-placed team of 2017–18 Austrian Football Bundesliga
Croatia Runners-up of 2017–18 Croatian First Football League
Romania Runners-up of 2017–18 Liga I
Denmark Winners of 2017–18 Danish Cup
Belarus Winners of 2017–18 Belarusian Cup
Poland Winners of 2017–18 Polish Cup
Sweden Winners of 2017–18 Svenska Cupen
Israel Winners of 2017–18 Israel State Cup
Scotland Winners of 2017–18 Scottish Cup
Cyprus Winners of 2017–18 Cypriot Cup
Third qualifying round
The third qualifying round is split into two separate sections: Champions Path (for league champions) and League Path (for cup winners and league non-champions).

The draw for the third qualifying round will be held on 23 July 2018. The first legs will be played on 9 August, and the second legs will be played on 16 August 2018.

A total of 72 teams are expected to play in the third qualifying round:

Champions Path

The ten Champions Path winners of the second qualifying round, and the ten Champions Path losers of the 2018–19 UEFA Champions League second qualifying round.

League Path

Twelve teams which enter in this round, the 37 League Path winners of the second qualifying round, and the three League Path losers of the 2018–19 UEFA Champions League second qualifying round.

Belgium Club Brugge CC: 29.500
Netherlands Feyenoord CC: 21.500
Russia Fourth-placed team of 2017–18 Russian Premier League
Portugal Third-placed team of 2017–18 Primeira Liga
Ukraine Fourth-placed team of 2017–18 Ukrainian Premier League
Turkey Third-placed team of 2017–18 Süper Lig
Czech Republic Third-placed team of 2017–18 Czech First League
Switzerland Third-placed team of 2017–18 Swiss Super League
Greece Winners of 2017–18 Greek Football Cup or third-placed team of 2017–18 Superleague Greece
Austria Winners of 2017–18 Austrian Cup
Croatia Winners of 2017–18 Croatian Football Cup
Romania Winners of 2017–18 Cupa României
Play-off round
The play-off round is split into two separate sections: Champions Path (for league champions) and League Path (for cup winners and league non-champions).

The draw for the play-off round will be held on 6 August 2018. The first legs will be played on 23 August, and the second legs will be played on 30 August 2018.

A total of 42 teams play in the play-off round:

Champions Path

The ten Champions Path winners of the third qualifying round, and the six Champions Path losers of the 2018–19 UEFA Champions League third qualifying round.

League Path

The 26 League Path winners of the third qualifying round.

Group stage
The draw for the group stage will be held on 31 August 2018 at the Grimaldi Forum in Monaco. The 48 teams are drawn into twelve groups of four, with the restriction that teams from the same association cannot be drawn against each other. For the draw, the teams are seeded into four pots based on their 2018 UEFA club coefficients.[12]

In each group, teams play against each other home-and-away in a round-robin format. The group winners and runners-up advance to the round of 32, where they are joined by the eight third-placed teams of the 2018–19 UEFA Champions League group stage. The matchdays are 20 September, 4 October, 25 October, 8 November, 29 November, and 13 December 2018.

A total of 48 teams play in the group stage: 17 teams which enter in this stage, the 21 winners of the play-off round (eight from Champions Path, thirteen from League Path), the six losers of the 2018–19 UEFA Champions League play-off round (four from Champions Path, two from League Path), and the four League Path losers of the 2018–19 UEFA Champions League third qualifying round.

[JohnDearyMe]

Interesting read C&J. Looks like there will be some very strong teams in the qualifying rounds

[jrgbfc]

Only three 2 legged ties for us to get to the group stage. Not exactly the long slog some are making out.

[Barry_Chuckle]

Don't know about 10,000 wanting to go, but I could see a few thousand making the trip to Belgium/Spain/Portugal/Germany/Holland/France if we get a decent draw.

[Vino blanco]

Can I pay on the day for the first home leg?

[ClaretAndLube]

If the draw for 2nd round were to be made now we could possibly be facing one of Getafe, Leipzig, Atalanta, AZ Alkmaar, St. Etienne, or Braga.

[Dazzler]

If the draw for 2nd round were to be made now we could possibly be facing one of Getafe, Leipzig, Atalanta, AZ Alkmaar, St. Etienne, or Braga.

Don't think so.
Claret & Jew's copy and paste job
Omits to inform us that all the rounds prior to the group stage are seeded according to country coefficients.

[Devils_Advocate]

Has there been any discussion between the club and supporters groups on ticket allocation? How on earth do they manage 500 ticket allocation in Norway with 10,000 wanting to go?!

If the location is good there will be thousands happy to travel and just have a few days with mates or family on the p*ss and watch it in the bars. Dont be fooled by opinions on here as this board has a high % of obsessive fans for whom attending the game and the result will be paramount. There are plenty who would just use it as a summer break, a massive party and enjoy the novelty of going into Europe with the Clarets

I can definitely see close to 10k travelling for the first away leg if it is in a decent sunny European counrty and city but after the first game barring a massive game against really famous club id guess it will level out at around 2k fans if we continue to progress

[Jmw]

I think we will always be unseeded as it works off club coefficient rather than country, so we have zero points assuming they don’t go back to the 60’s!

[Dazzler]

I think we will always be unseeded as it works off club coefficient rather than country, so we have zero points assuming they don’t go back to the 60’s!

We will have 20% of 162.425 of our Association coeffeicent points.

[Claretforever]

A good barometer would be Blackburn to a small extent. They took 3-400 to a couple of games, 6-700 to 2 or 3 more, and 1,000 to another (Nancy?). Their largest following was the 2,500 sell out at Feyenoord, where they all claim now they had 4,500 when they only got 2,500 tickets.

I’d have thought after the first game or two over the summer months, where we’d likely want thousands of tickets?, novelty would wear off to the high hundreds? It’s not cheap.