Mourinho chewing gum - National Anthem!

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Sat May 19, 2018 5:13 pm

Disrespectful!

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat May 19, 2018 5:17 pm

He'll wrigleys his way out of it

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat May 19, 2018 5:21 pm

Why's it disrespectful? Who cares? It's just a song. It doesn't actually really mean anything.

I was having a **** during it.

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Sat May 19, 2018 5:32 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Why's it disrespectful? Who cares? It's just a song. It doesn't actually really mean anything.

I was having a **** during it.

You really need me to explain why it’s disrespectful! Oh dear!

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat May 19, 2018 5:35 pm

Carport wrote:You really need me to explain why it’s disrespectful! Oh dear!

Yes.

What is disrespectful about chewing gum during a national anthem of a country he isn't from? Is it any more disrespectful than the England squad standing there gormless pretending to mouth the words half arsed?

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Sat May 19, 2018 5:40 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Yes.

What is disrespectful about chewing gum during a national anthem of a country he isn't from? Is it any more disrespectful than the England squad standing there gormless pretending to mouth the words half arsed?

Not more disrespectful no but still disrespectful to the country in which he has been allowed to ply his trade for many years. It matters not that he’s not British. Maybe I’m in a minority on this. Would be interesting to see what others think. Maybe I’m old school.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat May 19, 2018 5:43 pm

Carport wrote:Not more disrespectful no but still disrespectful to the country in which he has been allowed to ply his trade for many years. It matters not that he’s not British. Maybe I’m in a minority on this. Would be interesting to see what others think. Maybe I’m old school.

I think there are more trying issues to be concerned about that some Portuguese fella chewing gum during a song.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat May 19, 2018 5:50 pm

He's not one of us, if he chooses not to sing it or to chew his gum what's the issue?

I don't sing the anthem when it's on, I can only assume you were stood there in your front room belting it out.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat May 19, 2018 5:55 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:He's not one of us, if he chooses not to sing it or to chew his gum what's the issue?

I don't sing the anthem when it's on, I can only assume you were stood there in your front room belting it out.

alf garnett

spadesclaret · Post by **spadesclaret** » Sat May 19, 2018 6:15 pm

Carport wrote:Not more disrespectful no but still disrespectful to the country in which he has been allowed to ply his trade for many years. It matters not that he’s not British. Maybe I’m in a minority on this. Would be interesting to see what others think. Maybe I’m old school.

Maybe you are in a minority, Carport, but I'm proud to be part of that minority. The very people who complain about this country going to the dogs are the ones who have forgotten what respect is.

I couldn't care less about Mourinho. He has shown many times what a poor specimen of a human being he is. But I do care when our own show a distinct lack of respect. Old school we may be but standards have been sliding for many years now.

Our national anthem is not great but it is what it is and to show it disrespect is to stick up two fingers at our queen and country.

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Sat May 19, 2018 6:19 pm

spadesclaret wrote:Maybe you are in a minority, Carport, but I'm proud to be part of that minority. The very people who complain about this country going to the dogs are the ones who have forgotten what respect is.

I couldn't care less about Mourinho. He has shown many times what a poor specimen of a human being he is. But I do care when our own show a distinct lack of respect. Old school we may be but standards have been sliding for many years now.

Our national anthem is not great but it is what it is and to show it disrespect is to stick up two fingers at our queen and country.

Well said!

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Sat May 19, 2018 6:20 pm

spadesclaret wrote:Maybe you are in a minority, Carport, but I'm proud to be part of that minority. The very people who complain about this country going to the dogs are the ones who have forgotten what respect is.

I couldn't care less about Mourinho. He has shown many times what a poor specimen of a human being he is. But I do care when our own show a distinct lack of respect. Old school we may be but standards have been sliding for many years now.

Our national anthem is not great but it is what it is and to show it disrespect is to stick up two fingers at our queen and country.

Hear hear .

Wexford_Claret · Post by **Wexford_Claret** » Sat May 19, 2018 6:24 pm

It’s a song, a terrible song, about an unelected head of state and a made up deity. Most English don’t sing it, why should we expect some Portuguese bloke to.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat May 19, 2018 6:27 pm

I'll never understand patriotism. It's where you were shat out, nothing more.

Billyblah · Post by **Billyblah** » Sat May 19, 2018 7:42 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:I'll never understand patriotism. It's where you were shat out, nothing more.

A lack of respect for anyone, or anything.
And that's why, fellow Clarets, this country has been 'going to the dog's' for some years.
I fully agree with Spades line of thinking.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat May 19, 2018 7:52 pm

Billyblah wrote:A lack of respect for anyone, or anything.
And that's why, fellow Clarets, this country has been 'going to the dog's' for some years.
I fully agree with Spades line of thinking.

You really believe that what I have said suggests I lack respect? Strange concept but I'd love to hear your reasoning behind it.

I could go into an abundance of reasons as to why I am respectful but I can't be arsed.

Also, the country has gone to the dogs? In what way?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat May 19, 2018 8:00 pm

spadesclaret wrote:Maybe you are in a minority, Carport, but I'm proud to be part of that minority. The very people who complain about this country going to the dogs are the ones who have forgotten what respect is.

I couldn't care less about Mourinho. He has shown many times what a poor specimen of a human being he is. But I do care when our own show a distinct lack of respect. Old school we may be but standards have been sliding for many years now.

Our national anthem is not great but it is what it is and to show it disrespect is to stick up two fingers at our queen and country.

All he was doing was chewing gum.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat May 19, 2018 8:11 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Yes.

What is disrespectful about chewing gum during a national anthem of a country he isn't from? Is it any more disrespectful than the England squad standing there gormless pretending to mouth the words half arsed?

No class you that's you problem

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat May 19, 2018 8:12 pm

Stayingup wrote:No class you that's you problem

Elaborate.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat May 19, 2018 8:17 pm

He's a pillock anyway and wants chinning.

Brunlea · Post by **Brunlea** » Sat May 19, 2018 8:53 pm

I live in a foreign country. When this countrys’ anthem is played and the locals stand I stand. I dont sing it it means nothing to me but I dont talk and I dont chew gum so the posters original point is right but maybe the correct word to use is discourteous

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat May 19, 2018 9:04 pm

But remember guys, it's the left who get offended at the smallest of things. Not the nationalists.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:09 pm

Do people stand for the national anthem if they are alone in a room?

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:11 pm

Seems to me the left seem to get offended on behalf of others (who may not be offended themselves) whereas nationalists get offended on their own behalf.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:13 pm

Greenmile wrote:Do people stand for the national anthem if they are alone in a room?

I must admit, when I watch the Clarets on telly, I stand up and clap when they come out of the tunnel .

Mrs G and the kids think I'm mental

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:13 pm

Guich wrote:Seems to me the left seem to get offended on behalf of others (who may not be offended themselves) whereas nationalists get offended on their own behalf.

Or on the Queen’s.

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:14 pm

Carport wrote:Not more disrespectful no but still disrespectful to the country in which he has been allowed to ply his trade for many years. It matters not that he’s not British. Maybe I’m in a minority on this. Would be interesting to see what others think. Maybe I’m old school.

Maybe you're an idiot?

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:15 pm

Guich wrote:I must admit, when I watch the Clarets on telly, I stand up and clap when they come out of the tunnel .

Mrs G and the kids think I'm mental

I think I’m with the family G on that one, although I will obviously cheer / curse etc when watching us on tv on my own. Each to their own I suppose.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:16 pm

Greenmile wrote:Or on the Queen’s.

As well maybe.

I bet the Queen doesn't give a s*!t what Mourinho thinks and does anyway

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:17 pm

I heard she was fuming that he left Lukaku on the bench - she had a tenner on him for first goalscorer.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:24 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:I think there are more trying issues to be concerned about that some Portuguese fella chewing gum during a song.

The little things matter - our very own manager would agree. What are the beliefs that he tries to instill? Ignoring them and we end up with tits who blabber on about bigger things to worry about, those little things make a difference.

You’re turning into IT’s love child!

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:54 pm

Some of us sing the National Anthem, some don't.

Plenty of those commenting on here and displaying an attitude of 'so what' are the first to pipe up about peoples rights, lack of respect for others and suchlike.

I agree with those that believe there is a general lack of respect and it isn't going to work it's way back into this modern society anytime soon.

I shall be on parade in Blackpool in November, I will sing the National Anthem with gusto and I will shed more than a tear for those who made the ultimate sacrifice. Many were from this area and the majority would be disheartened with the society that has superceded them.

If you don't care for the Monarchy and the core values we were taught that's fine but please don't be hypocritical by having a go at those who do care.

This messageboard is supposed to have one thing in common for all of us, a love of Burnley FC but sometimes I doubt myself for thinking that.

Up the Clarets!

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat May 19, 2018 11:09 pm

I don't chew gum, and I've managed to not chew gum through loads of country's national anthems. It doesn't make me any more or less respectful, does it?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat May 19, 2018 11:15 pm

People are genuinely fking crazy, snowflake central

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Sat May 19, 2018 11:27 pm

This country has been going to the dogs since the Romans left. Allegedly.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sun May 20, 2018 12:24 am

I can’t stand Mourinho and don’t really like the National anthem so not really arsed to be honest.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sun May 20, 2018 12:43 am

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Declinism is the belief that a society or institution is tending towards decline. Particularly, it is the predisposition, possibly due to cognitive bias, such as rosy retrospection, to view the past more favourably and future negatively.

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Declinism has been found to be rather widespread in the United Kingdom. In a 2015 survey, 70% of Britons agreed with the statement that “things are worse than they used to be,” even though at the time Britons were in fact “richer, healthier and longer-living than ever before.” However, it was also mentioned that many of the things that older people mourn from their youths were no longer existant (sic) in modern society.

British historian Robert Tombs suggested that the United Kingdom has faced several 'bouts' of Declinism, as far back as the 1880s when German competition in manufactured goods was first felt and then again in the 1960s and 1970s, with economic worries, rapid decolonisation and a perception of dwindling power and influence in every field. Tombs however, concluded that "Declinism is at best a distortion of reality" and denied suggestions that Britain was no longer the great power it once was.

In France, declinism has been described as a "booming industry" with poular (sic) authors such as Michel Onfray writing books and articles exploring failings of France and the West. French Declinsim (sic...are you ****ing serious, wikipedia???) has been related to the counter-Enlightenment of the early 19th century, and also to the late 1970s with the end of three decades of post World War 2 economic growth. In modern times, the phenomenon has picked up velocity and cut across the political spectrum with several variations of “déclinisme” emerging, from Catholic reactionaries to nonreligious thinkers questioning national identity and political corruption.

Man chews gum. Ergo, proof of decline of Western civilisation.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sun May 20, 2018 4:48 am

If I came out my mums minge in Germany, I’d be German.

I don’t understand this patriotism nonsense. Especially with all this wedding stuff. Didn’t watch a single second of it. All those people who lined the streets, sleeping rough just to catch a glimpse are morons, in my opinion.

I’ll never sing the national anthem. Pointless. I used that time at Wembley in 2009 to check my phone for messages.

I don’t hate being English, I just can’t identify with the monarchy, London and patriotic ********.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun May 20, 2018 5:14 am

of all the things going on in the world that people could complain about.........

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Sun May 20, 2018 8:12 am

Geoff wrote:Maybe you're an idiot?

That really contributed to the thread Geoff!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 20, 2018 9:21 am

Guich wrote:Seems to me the left seem to get offended on behalf of others (who may not be offended themselves) whereas nationalists get offended on their own behalf.

Some of the left, sure. But i think it's important to understand that nationalists are getting offended by someone chewing gum. When the left get offended on someone elses behalf it's because the left think they're victims of oppression of some kind.

Which would you rather be? Offended by someone chewing gum, or offended that other people are being oppressed even if sometimes you're wrong?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun May 20, 2018 9:46 am

Funny how it ends up in a political left vs right discussion.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 20, 2018 10:13 am

taio wrote:Funny how it ends up in a political left vs right discussion.

It's not though. This is actually something the snowflake element of the left and the snowflake element of the right can bond over: their pathetic need to be offended by the slightest, most tenuous of things.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun May 20, 2018 10:17 am

During most of the game I thought he was chewing a wasp.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun May 20, 2018 10:24 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:It's not though. This is actually something the snowflake element of the left and the snowflake element of the right can bond over: their pathetic need to be offended by the slightest, most tenuous of things.

Agree. But I see you couldn't resist attempting to contribute and switch it into a left vs right discussion.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sun May 20, 2018 12:23 pm

I am another who noticed the United manager chewing gum, thought he showed utter contempt and disrespect to his adopted country.

The fa should take the ignorant slob to task over this and give him a touch line ban minimum

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 20, 2018 12:23 pm

taio wrote:Agree. But I see you couldn't resist attempting to contribute and switch it into a left vs right discussion.

Again. No. I pointed out that the left get mocked for this **** as if the right doesn't do it too. I'm not making it a left vrs right thing. I'm showing that it's a left and right thing.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun May 20, 2018 12:28 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Some of the left, sure. But i think it's important to understand that nationalists are getting offended by someone chewing gum. When the left get offended on someone elses behalf it's because the left think they're victims of oppression of some kind.

Which would you rather be? Offended by someone chewing gum, or offended that other people are being oppressed even if sometimes you're wrong?

Neither and the people who argue about who's ''left wing'' are f**king muppets, you have to be seriously weird to turn every argument into a political one by claiming people are ''left wing''. Do people really give a toss about all that guff?

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sun May 20, 2018 12:30 pm

Like the Daily Mail comments section this.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun May 20, 2018 12:32 pm

Socrates wrote:Like the Daily Mail comments section this.

That's racist against white people!

******* soceitey man, allways working too keep the white man down.