Tommy Robinson

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed May 30, 2018 1:40 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:.

Do you think all paedophiles should be treated this way, or just the ones who offend?

Oh, the old, there are some bad paedos and some good paedos train of thought!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed May 30, 2018 1:41 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Please give one example of someone on this thread defending the indefensible.
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See above post.

An idiot but a sick idiot as well.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed May 30, 2018 1:43 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Don't go full Ringo. Never go full Ringo.

Maybe Ringo is my alter-ego, and I'm directly employed by UTC to stoke debate, meaning more clicks and more advertising revenue.

MK-Claret · Post by **MK-Claret** » Wed May 30, 2018 1:51 pm

No all pedophiles should be treated the same. I'm sure I made that clear in the post. And also it is relevant as that's what Robinson thought he was exposing. Yes there are different opinions on the matter. But I believe In freedom of speech and the law should apply to all regardless of background. I don't like the far right and I don't like the far left.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed May 30, 2018 1:59 pm

The law definitely applies to 'Tommy Robinson', and that's why he'll be waking up in a jail cell for the next year.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed May 30, 2018 2:05 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Of course he should be sent to jail, he admitted to contempt of court. The only people who think he doesn't deserve his sentence are other racist, fascist idiots like his crowd of supporters who gathered outside number 10. Personally, I think he should have got ten years but I'm hoping that's next time if he hasn't learned his lesson.

This post says an awful lot about you

MK-Claret · Post by **MK-Claret** » Wed May 30, 2018 2:29 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:The law definitely applies to 'Tommy Robinson', and that's why he'll be waking up in a jail cell for the next year.

Yes I agree.. He broke his bail condition. There is a lot of hysteria with agendas these days, usually from the right and left.The law is the law but is applied very disproportionately in a lot of peoples eyes. I believe that the law should be the law regardless of background full stop. But I also believe in respecting other people's opinions even if I don't agree with them.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Wed May 30, 2018 2:51 pm

Cowards...

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Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Wed May 30, 2018 3:00 pm

MK-Claret wrote:Yes I agree.. He broke his bail condition.

Was it a bail condition or a suspended sentence that he contravened?

LifeafterRobbie · Post by **LifeafterRobbie** » Wed May 30, 2018 3:37 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:I read a piece in the burnley express last week about nelson and briefield, it made reference to serious incidents whereby police had been subjected to torrents of abuse and had stones hurled at them by large groups of young asian males. The piece described how this occured as officers tried to make enquiries in the area in relation to an incident with vehicles on colne road, and were prevented from doing so by what was in essence a mob.
when you think about it, that is a very bad situation, it suggests that lawlessness is rife and intimidation is the norm.
The article concluded with quotes from community leaders and councillors but it was achingly vague and tiresome,
If the perception of the public is one of treading on eggshells, then problems will not go away.
Naturally, the extremely serious stories hit the national press, but the debates or any chance of serious dialouge are scuppered immediately with accusations of racism. That is disasterous. People who have genuine concerns shouldn't be branded as right wing thugs simply for asking questions.
If this trend continues, then figures like tommy robinson will be seen as the only option for voicing a counter view.
That is also wrong, because as has been mentioned, there is a lot of middle ground to be covered, and nobody can enter that space without risking being ridiculously labelled by critics from the liberal thinking left in British politics.

Spot on!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed May 30, 2018 3:50 pm

MK-Claret wrote:The law is the law but is applied very disproportionately in a lot of peoples eyes.

As yet no one has been able to come up with any examples of someone else doing the same thing but being treated differently.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Wed May 30, 2018 4:42 pm

Spijed wrote:As yet no one has been able to come up with any examples of someone else doing the same thing but being treated differently.

Stuart Hall case didn't have a media blackout if I remember rightly.

The BBC broadcast the raid on Cliff Richards house.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed May 30, 2018 4:54 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Stuart Hall case didn't have a media blackout if I remember rightly.

The BBC broadcast the raid on Cliff Richards house.

But I was making the point that no-one has been treated differently in the same situation as he was.

The cases you use are different in that there was no media blackout, whereas there was in this case. Anyone doing the same as Tommy Robinson will be arrested and treated the same.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed May 30, 2018 4:55 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Stuart Hall case didn't have a media blackout if I remember rightly.

That's because there weren't any other cases which could be affected by his case.

Jesus Christ some people are thick.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Wed May 30, 2018 5:04 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:See above post.

An idiot but a sick idiot as well.

The only post above this one (on my screen) is from a RingoMcCartney.

Certainly an idiot, but “sick” may be a bit harsh.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed May 30, 2018 5:34 pm

MK-Claret wrote:No all pedophiles should be treated the same. I'm sure I made that clear in the post. And also it is relevant as that's what Robinson thought he was exposing. Yes there are different opinions on the matter. But I believe In freedom of speech and the law should apply to all regardless of background. I don't like the far right and I don't like the far left.

You've used a lot of words in your posts on this thread without really saying anything if relevance.

I'm curious as to why you feel that paedophile who have never offended should be forcefully castrated? You claim to be a supporter of free speech, but can that really be true if you want to mutilate people who aren't criminals just because you don't like them?

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Wed May 30, 2018 5:49 pm

Tommy Robinson was arrested just a few days after Sajid Javid became Home Secretary: A coincidence I presume?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed May 30, 2018 6:02 pm

Over 500 replies, done quite well this thread.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Wed May 30, 2018 6:06 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:Tommy Robinson was arrested just a few days after Sajid Javid became Home Secretary: A coincidence I presume?

Paul Weston made a suggestion that it was more than a little coincidence but I think it was a ludicrous comment.

Sajid Javid has caused angst among many muslims because he is not a practising muslim.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Wed May 30, 2018 6:11 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:That's because there weren't any other cases which could be affected by his case.

Jesus Christ some people are thick.

That's because White people tend to be solo paedos , Asian blokes do it in groups with friends or family.
It's hard to find an exact match.

Yes, you are thick.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Wed May 30, 2018 6:12 pm

He read the list in the livestream from a BBC article which was already out in the public domain. The list of defendants is publicly available on the court bloody website! If you search google for that particular case you will find pictures and details of the suspects already printed by nearly every national UK newspaper. So what did he do exactly that nearly every other reporter has not already done?
Why would one reporter outside a court case reading a charge sheet already publicly available across a number of sources suddenly risk collapsing the case?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-44300482" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
BBC reporting live from court for this child abuse case today. Where is the outcry from Judges and the media that this reporting will prejudice the case and cause the trial to collapse? Why does this not affect the victims in this case?

Have you ever heard of another case where someone was arrested, tried, sentenced and transferred to prison all within the space of 3 hours?
Sounds like a stick up to me.

These grooming crimes are abhorrent and should be condemned by us all.

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Wed May 30, 2018 6:21 pm

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Have you ever heard of another case where someone was arrested, tried, sentenced and transferred to prison all within the space of 3 hours?
Sounds like a stick up to me.
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He was arrested under a breach of his suspended sentence, recalled to court and his suspended sentence was implemented.....end of!

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed May 30, 2018 6:21 pm

SussexDon1inIreland wrote:Have you ever heard of another case where someone was arrested, tried, sentenced and transferred to prison all within the space of 3 hours?
Sounds like a stick up to me.

He was on a suspended sentence already.
Therefore he wouldn't of needed a trail/sentencing etc

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed May 30, 2018 6:26 pm

Damo wrote:He was on a suspended sentence already.
Therefore he wouldn't of needed a trail/sentencing etc

I like it when you talk facty to me. It turns me on.

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Wed May 30, 2018 7:55 pm

American Nationalist take on the subject: (I reseve judgement)

Hero Worship & Tommytards ......... David Yorkshire

"..it was made clear that the Leeds trial was under reporting restrictions, as stated in an article in The Examiner among other places from the beginning of the trial. “We understand the trial will carry reporting restrictions which would only allow any reporting on conclusion of the case.” The case is not yet concluded, as more are awaiting sentencing. And, as Julie Lake stated, the defendants’ lawyers may now be able to argue for a mistrial. What is as bad is that the whole case has now been forgotten in favor of the Tommy Robinson Show. His grandstanding has made himself the center of attention, and, while I understand the masses’ need for heroes, he has done it at the expense of what is really important: the victims and their families....

...I understand that the media have built him up as a legitimate rebel leader and working-class hero by constantly interviewing him and giving him air time. Jeremy Bedford-Turner was never given air time, who is currently serving twelve months for so-called hate speech. And where were the talking heads of the alternative media when he was sent down? Where was Lauren Southern, Stefan Molyneux, Paul Joseph Watson and co. then? Why haven’t they mentioned Alison Chabloz’s trial? Oh right, the power they criticized was Jewish. And there’s the double standard. Their trials have been lobbied for by the very group that Robinson worships.

I expect leading politicians in Israel to criticise the British government over its handling of Tommy Robinson in order to gain the support of ordinary Britons for Israel and organised Jewry at large. This will mean they will be free to continue the promotion of miscegenation and decadence in British culture. Tommy Robinson’s celebrity will grow — expect a book out soon! And he will lead — oh yes, he will lead — us all to the promised land of kosher fake nationalism, along with the likes of Anne Marie Waters and her “For Britain” party....

Here is the real hero when it comes to exposing Muslim child-rape gangs — or rather heroine — who is sadly now deceased. She was Marlene Guest, a woman who worked tirelessly compiling dossiers of evidence and petitioning the police, media and government to investigate and prosecute those responsible, and to do their duty in protecting White children. She continued in her duty while battling cancer right up to her death at the end of 2014. It is a sad fact that the real heroes get no fanfare in the present age, for real heroes are given no air time, but it is my privilege to have known her.

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ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed May 30, 2018 7:59 pm

bluelabrador16 wrote:American Nationalist take on the subject: (I reseve judgement)

Hero Worship & Tommytards ......... David Yorkshire

You're a massive anti-semite and it's disgusting.

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:07 pm

ClaretAndJew

I have nothing against the "semite" people of Palestine. A sad racist **** like you does.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:09 pm

bluelabrador16 wrote:ClaretAndJew

I have nothing against the "semite" people of Palestine. A sad racist **** like you does.

Every single post you're talking about a Jewish conspiracy, citing unreliable and bias sources. What's the obsession with Jews?

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:13 pm

I have nothing against the "semite" people of Palestine. A sad racist **** like you does.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:35 pm

SussexDon1inIreland wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-44300482" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
BBC reporting live from court for this child abuse case today. Where is the outcry from Judges and the media that this reporting will prejudice the case and cause the trial to collapse? Why does this not affect the victims in this case?
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All been explained already but it's nothing to do with the victims, it's about making sure those charged get convicted.

In the case you quoted, there's one trial and one defendant.

In the Leeds one there's 29 defendants and it's all linked together. That's why there's no reporting allowed on it, until all 29 are finished.

brigante · Post by **brigante** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:52 pm

It's a sign of the times that a guy who has essentially been jailed for being as thick as pigshit should be held up as a hero by so many.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed May 30, 2018 9:00 pm

Greenmile wrote:The only post above this one (on my screen) is from a RingoMcCartney.

Certainly an idiot, but “sick” may be a bit harsh.

Turtles Head said

"Do you think all paedophiles should be treated this way, or just the ones who offend?

Turtles Head also said-

"Please give one example of someone on this thread defending the indefensible"

I obliged with his request.

Anyway sorry to hear about your defective screen. It shouldn't have to stop you witnessing an idiot shooting himself in the foot.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed May 30, 2018 9:06 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Read the quote within my post.

Turtles Head said

"Please give one example of someone on this thread defending the indefensible"

Turtles Head said.

"Imploding Turtle wrote:.

I'm still waiting for that example.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed May 30, 2018 9:13 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm still waiting for that example.

Class 1 idiot!

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Wed May 30, 2018 9:29 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Turtles Head said

"Do you think all paedophiles should be treated this way, or just the ones who offend?

Turtles Head also said-

"Please give one example of someone on this thread defending the indefensible"

I obliged with his request.

Anyway sorry to hear about your defective screen. It shouldn't have to stop you witnessing an idiot shooting himself in the foot.

Oh, it didn’t. Don’t worry about that.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Wed May 30, 2018 9:49 pm

for all the critics of robinson, i thought he was pretty good in blackadder.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed May 30, 2018 9:58 pm

bluelabrador16 wrote:ClaretAndJew

I have nothing against the "semite" people of Palestine. A sad racist **** like you does.

Holy **** that's the first time I've seen BL get mad on here.

Something specific about you personally must have pushed him over the Edge, can't possibly think what ClaretAndJew...

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed May 30, 2018 10:22 pm

I'm starting to think Chris Morris had a time machine and an UTC account
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deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Wed May 30, 2018 10:42 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Every single post you're talking about a Jewish conspiracy, citing unreliable and bias sources. What's the obsession with Jews?

Guy with username ClaretandJew asks someone why they’re obsessed with Jews...

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed May 30, 2018 10:46 pm

deanothedino wrote: Guy with username ClaretandJew asks someone why they’re obsessed with Jews...

Firstly, my username is a play on words, but also rings true as I have Jewish ancestry on my Dad's side, but that's besides the point.

I never mention Jews in posts, I was remarking upon how literally every post BL has is all about some Jewish conspiracy, or they are controlling the media or at fault for X Y Z.

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Wed May 30, 2018 10:49 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Firstly, my username is a play on words, but also rings true as I have Jewish ancestry on my Dad's side, but that's besides the point.

I never mention Jews in posts, I was remarking upon how literally every post BL has is all about some Jewish conspiracy, or they are controlling the media or at fault for X Y Z.

Was simply pointing out the irony.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed May 30, 2018 10:55 pm

deanothedino wrote:Was simply pointing out the irony.

No, Irony would be me talking about Jews and then complaining about someone else talking about it. Do you understand irony?

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Wed May 30, 2018 10:58 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:No, Irony would be me talking about Jews and then complaining about someone else talking about it. Do you understand irony?

I don't think you understand irony, the Angel of the North is irony.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu May 31, 2018 5:07 am

deanothedino wrote:Guy with username ClaretandJew asks someone why they’re obsessed with Jews...

He doesn't type his username every time he posts.

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Thu May 31, 2018 5:21 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:No, Irony would be me talking about Jews and then complaining about someone else talking about it. Do you understand irony?

I do.

I think you need to lighten up

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Thu May 31, 2018 5:23 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:He doesn't type his username every time he posts.

But his username is contained in every post...

Lighten up IT. I thought after 11 pages of arguing we could try light hearted for a moment

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu May 31, 2018 7:11 am

deanothedino wrote:But his username is contained in every post...

Lighten up IT. I thought after 11 pages of arguing we could try light hearted for a moment

deanothedino wrote: But his username is contained in every post...

Lighten up IT. I thought after 11 pages of arguing we could try light hearted for a moment

I was doing light hearted.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu May 31, 2018 9:43 am

brigante wrote:It's a sign of the times that a guy who has essentially been jailed for being as thick as pigshit should be held up as a hero by so many.

Tommy is probably revelling in playing the martyr,he has a right to protest,free speech etc,but even he must have known the restrictions on reporting this trial,if he chooses to disrespect the court then it's hardly a surprise when the judges come down hard on him.

PutTheWheelieBinsOut · Post by **PutTheWheelieBinsOut** » Thu May 31, 2018 10:08 am

Maajid Nawaz's view on Tommy Robinson's arrest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FniPiSLut8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

he hits the nail on the head 100%

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu May 31, 2018 10:28 am

Aren't people simply missing the point that he was arrested and jailed for contempt of court by reporting on a case that had reporting restrictions. That is how the law works and is applied to everyone.

There seem to be no other examples of people reporting on a case that had the same restrictions and being let off. Using examples such as the trial of Rolf Harris etc. can't be compared as those cases didn't have to same restrictions placed upon them.

If someone can point to an example where someone has stood outside a court in a case that had restrictions placed upon it and then been free to go, supporters of Tommy Robinson have a point, but until they can provide such examples they don't.