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by ablueclaret » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:15 am
I’m afraid the relative anonymity of the internet makes so many keyboard warriors free with words.
I’ve been fighting a running battle with my Labour CLP about violent messaging on our site. After months of disinterest a comment by a contributor asking for someone to stick a hot poker in Esther McVey’s mouth got deemed misogynist and within days the site was removed.
For me it is important that such comments are dealt with, no one should be threatened in such a manner online without consequences.
I’m sure in most cases it’s just a case of childish bravado but the impact it can have on the victims life needs to be realised. If you don’t confront people and get them to accept they are responsible for what they post online then the situation only gets worse and before long you get a pack of such characters baying for blood,
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by Damo » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:18 am
That famous Brexiteer David Cameron
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:20 am
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by Pstotto » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:26 am
The government leafleted every house in Britain to vote Remain. The are contriving to mess it up to say 'I told you so.' That is not only profoundly offensive but utterly stupid.
Anyway, I've thought of two world-changing inventions recently and sourced British companies to give them to, in the hope of boosting the UK. I can't do the idea myself so I gave them away. Obviously I can't tell you what they are.
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by Damo » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:02 am
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:06 am
Damo wrote:Is she a Gammon too?
She's more like a reanimated corpse.
There's probably more life in a reanimated corpse actually.
She's completely empty. Empty of thought, empty of morals, empty of compassion, empty of personality.
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by Damo » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:10 am
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by ablueclaret » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:22 am
UTB that’s sad.
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by ClaretMoffitt » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:18 pm
UpTheBeehole wrote:She's more like a reanimated corpse.
There's probably more life in a reanimated corpse actually.
She's completely empty. Empty of thought, empty of morals, empty of compassion, empty of personality.
Why are the tolerant ones always filled with the most hate?
Only need to go on a corbyn page and look at the venom they spew on there about tories to see first hand. Nothing is off limits or below the belt.
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by Stayingup » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:19 pm
UpTheBeehole wrote:Find me a quote where I've said I'm liberal.
I've got zero tolerance for racist old men
Ok. So if I'm 19 and racist what then?
Stupid comment really wasn't it ?
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by Stayingup » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:24 pm
Damo wrote:Is she a Gammon too?
How on earth does May well be safer from crime when we are importing criminals?
We're still in the EU and crime in London seems to be soaring
Of course Mayor Khan says it's a national problem. He would and it might be to some degree but crime in London is reportedly soaring.
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by Damo » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:25 pm
ClaretMoffitt wrote:Why are the tolerant ones always filled with the most hate?
Only need to go on a corbyn page and look at the venom they spew on there about tories to see first hand. Nothing is off limits or below the belt.
Because they arnt liberals.
They say they are but most of them are just freeloaders who are upset that the Tories are making them get off their backsides to earn a living. Corbyns core support just want a free ride, not equality or social justice
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by Damo » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:35 pm
Corbyn "supporters" now trying to claim money back on their Labour live tickets because they gave thousands away for free to boost the attendance.

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That's socialism for you
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:02 pm
Damo wrote:Because they arnt liberals.
They say they are but most of them are just freeloaders who are upset that the Tories are making them get off their backsides to earn a living. Corbyns core support just want a free ride, not equality or social justice
Corbyn is leader of the Labour party, not the Liberal Democrats.
It's so lazy of the right to label everyone who opposes them a 'liberal'
You certainly don't like it when we call you racists (which you are)
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by Damo » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:21 pm
UpTheBeehole wrote:Corbyn is leader of the Labour party, not the Liberal Democrats.
It's so lazy of the right to label everyone who opposes them a 'liberal'
You certainly don't like it when we call you racists (which you are)
No, that was my point.
I don't think you are liberal.
This is a point I have made many times on here.
Your last sentence confirms this pretty much
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by Caballo » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:45 pm
UpTheBeehole wrote:Gammon has been around to describe those types of people for a long time.
Here's something from 2013:

Taken out of context, as well you know. That was all about call me Dave and his proclivity for sticking little dave in dead pigs and nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit or the voters thereof
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by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:47 pm
Funny to see the coward call people racist, yet when someone points the same to him he runs to the mods asking for things to be removed.
Guess if we are comparing people to food beehole would probably be tofu, bland and dull.
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by Chobulous » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:52 pm
The right do not label you as liberals as a group, that is an Americanism you have chosen for yourself. Your nocturnal standard bearer constantly refers to himself as a liberal as do many others who in my day would have identified themselves as socialists or activists or whatever. Nowadays the fashionable term is liberal. Maybe you've appropriated the American term to remind yourselves that you need to keep being publicly anti-Trump to stay right on.
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:55 pm
Damo wrote:No, that was my point.
I don't think you are liberal.
This is a point I have made many times on here.
Your last sentence confirms this pretty much
As I've said, I've never claimed to be liberal.
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:55 pm
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Funny to see the coward call people racist, yet when someone points the same to him he runs to the mods asking for things to be removed.
Guess if we are comparing people to food beehole would probably be tofu, bland and dull.
When have I said anything racist?
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by Chobulous » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:00 pm
People like UTB are up in arms, quite rightly, when racist views are expressed but he is more than happy to use pejoratives to describe particular social groups. He is like a little boy giggling while he uses a rude word in this case gammon. He is also quite happy to openly admit he hates old white racist men. Not young racist just old white male ones. He is too stupid (sorry for the ITism) to see how racist and ageist a piece of misandry that statement is.
The man is a fool.
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:09 pm
It isn't racist to call someone white, when they are white, and you are white.
That's just snowflakery of the highest order to take offence at that.
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by Damo » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:13 pm
I appear to have found UTB's Twitter account...

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by Chobulous » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:13 pm
What is racist is hating a particular group because of their ethnicity.
It is ageist to hate a group of people because of their age and it is misandry to hate a group because they happen to be male.
You get 3 great big yeses
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:15 pm
Chobulous wrote:What is racist is hating a particular group because of their ethnicity.
It is ageist to hate a group of people because of their age and it is misandry to hate a group because they happen to be male.
You get 3 great big yeses
I don't hate them because of their skin colour.
I don't hate them because of their age.
I don't hate them because of their gender.
I hate racists because they're racist.
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by Chobulous » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:18 pm
So why didn't you just say racists? Why was it qualified as old, white racist men?
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:19 pm
Chobulous wrote:So why didn't you just say racists? Why was it qualified as old, white racist men?
Because the man being locked up was an old racist man.
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by ablueclaret » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:21 pm
Your comments about May were just demeaning UTB.
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:21 pm
Chobulous - please point to my use of the word white in this thread, prior to you bringing it up.
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:22 pm
Come on chobbers
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:24 pm
Chobulous wrote:What is racist is hating a particular group because of their ethnicity.
It is ageist to hate a group of people because of their age and it is misandry to hate a group because they happen to be male.
You get 3 great big yeses
Where have I hated anyone because of their ethnicity?
Where is it chob-on?
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:26 pm
Don't make things up
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:33 pm
Come on Chobulous, it's pretty easy to do.
Click my username, 'search user's posts', and then type the word 'white' into the search bar.
What comes up?????????
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:38 pm
You struggling pal?
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:00 pm
Talking about yourself there Ringo?
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by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:57 pm
Have you found these posts yet chob-on?
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by Dazzler » Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:19 am
UpTheBeehole wrote:
I've got zero tolerance for racist old white men
UpTheBeehole wrote:No, just despise white racists.