Airbus and Brexit

[aggi]

Try me. What was the purpose of listing parts of the LibDems manifesto!? Go on what was the actual point!?

Jesus wept. You continue to miss the point on a bewilderingly epic scale aggi!!!

In a binary referendum there is no scope for political opportunism. There is following a general election.

Well the point was you said:

What part of Labour's manifesto, of the lib dems manifesto or the greens manifesto, has been, is or will be enacted into law?

Answer - non.

I pointed out that parts of the manifesto had been enacted into law. That's an indisputable fact. These policies were in the Lib Dems manifesto, they are now law.

Note there is absolutely no reference as to which party was enacting these policies, whether it was political opportunism or any of the other extra criteria you started adding when it turned out you were wrong.

Maybe you should have just written what you meant to write in the first place or said that wasn't quite what you meant but I think everyone knows you'd prefer to argue that red was green rather than concede you were wrong.

[RingoMcCartney]

Probably because you still can't find me saying a losing party enacted their manifesto without using selective quoting. .

"Aggi wrote "I said parts of it had been. Which is very clearly the case because they were in the manifesto and are now law, regardless of who did it."

I'm selecting this quote aggi. Written by your own fair hand. You wrote it. And if you like I'll provide lots of smoking guns that clearly show you claiming that the losing side gets to enact it's manifesto.

[aggi]

aggi wrote:I'm glad the OP waited until Ringo was back to start this thread, makes it much more entertaining.

On the actual question, point 3 here in the Lib Dem manifesto http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-39946809 End the 1% public sector pay cap seems to be what the Government announced here http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41241295

Oh, it also appears that point 13 Levy up to 200% council tax on second homes is also something that the Government has announced https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consu ... pty-homes/

Your starting to look silly again aggi


I'd have settled for 1. 0. But if you prefer I'll settle for a 2.0!!!!!

Probably because you still can't find me saying a losing party enacted their manifesto without using selective quoting. .

Er, where did I say the Lib Dems enacted it. You're just looking a bit desperate now (or fundamentally don't understand the point).

[aggi]

"Aggi wrote "I said parts of it had been. Which is very clearly the case because they were in the manifesto and are now law, regardless of who did it."

I'm selecting this quote aggi. Written by your own fair hand. You wrote it. And if you like I'll provide lots of smoking guns that clearly show you claiming that the losing side gets to enact it's manifesto.

Er, where did I say the Lib Dems enacted it. You're just looking a bit desperate now (or fundamentally don't understand the point).

[UpTheBeehole]

Ringo's making a tit of himself again I see

[RingoMcCartney]

Well the point was you said:

What part of Labour's manifesto, of the lib dems manifesto or the greens manifesto, has been, is or will be enacted into law?

Answer - non.

I pointed out that parts of the manifesto had been enacted into law. That's an indisputable fact. These policies were in the Lib Dems manifesto, they are now law.

Note there is absolutely no reference as to which party was enacting these policies, whether it was political opportunism or any of the other extra criteria you started adding when it turned out you were wrong.

.

There WAS reference to which party!!!!! Your actually lying through your teeth now.

It was the "only the winning parties manifesto is enacted in tolaw and legislation". You simply didn't read what I said!!!

That's not, "extra criteria" you clown! That was the whole point of my argument!!!!!!!

This is like shooting fish in a barrel.!!

[RingoMcCartney]

Er, where did I say the Lib Dems enacted it. You're just looking a bit desperate now (or fundamentally don't understand the point).

If it's fundamental points being missed aggi
It's this. In a binary referendum. You can't having the winning side , Leave, enacting part of the losing side, Remain.

Or else you haven't bloody left !!!

[martin_p]

There WAS reference to which party!!!!! Your actually lying through your teeth now.

It was the "only the winning parties manifesto is enacted in tolaw and legislation". You simply didn't read what I said!!!

That's not, "extra criteria" you clown! That was the whole point of my argument!!!!!!!

This is like shooting fish in a barrel.!!

As I suspected, Ringo struggles with comprehension.

[martin_p]

Try me. What was the purpose of listing parts of the LibDems manifesto!? Go on what was the actual point!?

Jesus wept. You continue to miss the point on a bewilderingly epic scale aggi!!!

In a binary referendum there is no scope for political opportunism. There is following a general election.

So I assume staying part of the ECHR was always part of the ‘Leave manifesto’ then? And regulatory alignment on goods that seems to be on the table, that in the manifesto as well?

[RingoMcCartney]

As I suspected, Ringo struggles with comprehension.

Where as your a stranger to providing ""evidence and facts"

Still waiting for you to provide both!

3.0 marty, 3.0

[RingoMcCartney]

Er, where did I say the Lib Dems enacted it. You're just looking a bit desperate now (or fundamentally don't understand the point).

First you say" I didn't say parts of of the LibDems manifesto had been put into law"

Then I prove you did!

Then you say nobody said it mattered who put them into law. When I clearly did. Right at the very start.

[martin_p]

First you say" I didn't say parts of of the LibDems manifesto had been put into law"

Then I prove you did!

Then you say nobody said it mattered who put them into law. When I clearly did. Right at the very start.

I think if someone told Ringo his bike had been stolen he'd hand himself into the police.

[RingoMcCartney]

Er, where did I say the Lib Dems enacted it. You're just looking a bit desperate now (or fundamentally don't understand the point).

First you say" I didn't say parts of of the LibDems manifesto had been put into law"

Then I prove you did!

Then you say nobody said it mattered who put them into law. When I clearly did. Right at the very start.

Aggi. Your the gift that just keeps on giving!!!

Top work!

[RingoMcCartney]

I think if someone told Ringo his bike had been stolen he'd hand himself into the police.

Well if the old bill were looking for "evidence and facts" Marty, yours would be the last door they'd knock on!!!

[ngsobob]

It's this. In a binary referendum. You can't having the winning side , Leave, enacting part of the losing side, Remain.......

However, in an advisory referendum, you can treat it as binding, eh RMcC?

[RingoMcCartney]

It's this. In a binary referendum. You can't having the winning side , Leave, enacting part of the losing side, Remain.......

However, in an advisory referendum, you can treat it as binding, eh RMcC?

Binding or advisory.

Irrelevant.

It's now British Law.

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[martin_p]

It's this. In a binary referendum. You can't having the winning side , Leave, enacting part of the losing side, Remain.......

However, in an advisory referendum, you can treat it as binding, eh RMcC?

But we are REMAINing party to the ECHR, which probaly wasn't part of this mythical 'Leave manifesto'