Neymar

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:26 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Erm... he went over and picked the ball up and purposely stood on his ankle. How the chuffing hell is that not a red card?

Oh - and ITV have asked one of the referees - Clattenburg? And he said it was a red card.

Thank you.

He was lightly stepped on because of the big crowd of making it difficult for the Mexican to step over to get the ball.

Had he not hung onto the ball like a brat then the player wouldn't have had to come over and none of this would have happened.

And if you're calling for a red card every time someone stands on slemone, I think every game ever played would be abandoned due to too many players being sent off

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:32 pm

starting_11 wrote:He was lightly stepped on because of the big crowd of making it difficult for the Mexican to step over to get the ball.

Had he not hung onto the ball like a brat then the player wouldn't have had to come over and none of this would have happened.

And if you're calling for a red card every time someone stands on slemone, I think every game ever played would be abandoned due to too many players being sent off

.................
I have no idea how hard he was stepped on and not sure how anyone viewing knows either.....the lad should have got a red card for intent....he knew EXACTLY what he was doing....play acting or no play acting that player deliberately stepped on his ankle to cause pain/injury or both....no question about it.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:51 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'll ask again... did you miss the stamp on the ankle? It was a clear red card.

Stamp

Hahahahahhahahahhahahahahaha

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:53 pm

cutsy123 wrote:Stamp

Hahahahahhahahahhahahahahaha

You think it wasn't a red card!

Hahahahahhahahahhahahahahaha

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:56 pm

FactualFrank wrote:You think it wasn't a red card!

Hahahahahhahahahhahahahahaha

The only player who should have got a red is Neymar.
Mediocre player, world class cheat!!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:59 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:The only player who should have got a red is Neymar.
Mediocre player, world class cheat!!

So what should the Mexican have received? A bit of a slap? A telling off?

ColonelCool · Post by **ColonelCool** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:01 pm

I've lost track here. frank said it was a red card. Well you can't get any more obvious. Not sure how they missed it really so I'd say it's poor from the officials.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:01 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:The only player who should have got a red is Neymar.
Mediocre player, world class cheat!!

makes maradona look like a saint!

Mayoclaret · Post by **Mayoclaret** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:06 pm

The O/P is about Neymar's cheating - he constantly over-reacts and did so yet again today. Thought it was embarrassing again today - if he looks back on some of his rolling about surely he should be hanging his head in shame. With skill like he has he doesn't need to do the theatricals.
As for a red card - it wasn't given by the ref though it was a deliberate foot on ankle. The "pundits" suggested that potential red cards were one of the 4 areas VAR could look at - but no suggestion that they did? Just wondered if anyone heard why they didnt look at it again?

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:10 pm

Mayoclaret wrote:The O/P is about Neymar's cheating - he constantly over-reacts and did so yet again today. Thought it was embarrassing again today - if he looks back on some of his rolling about surely he should be hanging his head in shame. With skill like he has he doesn't need to do the theatricals.
As for a red card - it wasn't given by the ref though it was a deliberate foot on ankle. The "pundits" suggested that potential red cards were one of the 4 areas VAR could look at - but no suggestion that they did? Just wondered if anyone heard why they didnt look at it again?

They were all rolling around the floor of the video room to see if any of them could outdo Neymar -----they fell about laughing at his antics and forgot all about reviewing the incident. C'est la vie!

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:10 pm

He'll just carry on cheating because there's been no punishment that fits. He's obviously no self-awareness at all. It's been a brilliant tournament so far but his antics are ruining it!

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:15 pm

FactualFrank wrote:So what should the Mexican have received? A bit of a slap? A telling off?

Exactly what he did receive, nothing!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:17 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:Exactly what he did receive, nothing!

Have a think about it, watch it again and come back to me next week when you've had time to come to your senses.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:25 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:The only player who should have got a red is Neymar.
Mediocre player, world class cheat!!

Aye he’s crap - won nothing (except loads of titles, cups, etc) and would struggle to make an impact in The Vanarama.

Yes he exaggerated but the Mexicans - like all the other teams - targeted him from the first minute. Have you seen how many times he gets kicked / fouled ? Is that not cheating ?

He could cheat by kicking them back but decides to cheat in a different way. I find it difficult to reconcile how you think that kicking lumps out of a player is more noble than exaggerating his pain.

It is start to working against him though as I don’t understand how that cannot be given as a red card. The player who did it had been chasing around kicking Neymar for the previous 10 mins before he stood on him.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:48 pm

I think it's you and Mr Frank who are "Exagerating his pain"
He's the most overrated player on the planet!

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:49 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:I think it's you and Mr Frank who are "Exagerating his pain"
He's the most overrated player on the planet!

You seriously have not got a clue have you ?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:49 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:I think it's you and Mr Frank who are "Exagerating his pain"
He's the most overrated player on the planet!

Again, you miss the point. It's NOTHING TO DO with his pain. It's the intent made by the Mexican.

I'd hate to be a school teacher.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:53 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Again, you miss the point. It's NOTHING TO DO with his pain. It's the intent made by the Mexican.

I'd hate to be a school teacher.

No, it's you who miss the point of the thread. It's the intent made by the Brazilian child to get a fellow professional footballer sent off!
Or did the Mexican taser Neymar? I hadn't realised,
if so of course he should've seen red!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:56 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:No, it's you who miss the point of the thread. It's the intent made by the Brazilian child to get a fellow professional footballer sent off!
Or did the Mexican taser Neymar? I hadn't realised, if so
Of course he should've seen red!

The thread maybe, but not when I raised the point. And you replied to my point.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:57 pm

TVC15 wrote:You seriously have not got a clue have you ?

I'd stop now before you embarrass yourself further,

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:20 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:I'd stop now before you embarrass yourself further,

Aye ok !
Widely regarded as in the top 3 footballers in the world for the last 5 years.
World record transfer fee.
Scored goals and won loads at every club he has played for.
Brazil’s best player and talisman

You think he is mediocre and the most over rated footballer.

And i’m the one embarrassing myself ?!!!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:24 pm

TVC15 wrote:Aye ok !
Widely regarded as in the top 3 footballers in the world for the last 5 years.
World record transfer fee.
Scored goals and won loads at every club he has played for.
Brazil’s best player and talisman

You think he is mediocre and the most over rated footballer.

And i’m the one embarrassing myself ?!!!

I'm just glad somebody else has randomly decided to start talking sense.

It was getting tiring on my own.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:24 pm

TVC15 wrote:Aye ok !
Widely regarded as in the top 3 footballers in the world for the last 5 years.
World record transfer fee.
Scored goals and won loads at every club he has played for.
Brazil’s best player and talisman

Don’t forget his need to keep rollin’

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JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:00 pm

Almost as bad as Rivaldo

Stproc · Post by **Stproc** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:37 pm

An utterly pathetic individual. Martin O’Neil was spot on with his comments.
It’s like watching the world diving championships at times

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:41 pm

Loads of folk on this thread are right;
Red card? Yes.
Overacting? Yes.
Mediocre? No.
Part of the disease? Absolutely.
Wish serious injury? To be honest, a bit. I think the game would be better off without the likes of Neymar, Busquets, Suarez et al.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:22 pm

I detest him. Detested him since I first saw him play in the Confederation Cup in 2013. There's no doubting he's an excellent player but his head isn't where it should be.

And leaving a genuinely "big" club to join PSQ sums him up. He's got a highly punchable face.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:16 pm

Off the pitch,
Dead ball,

In my day that would have been a nothing incident, a bit like when Norman Effing Hunter did our wonderful Frank Casper off the field

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:19 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:Wish serious injury? To be honest, a bit. I think the game would be better off without the likes of Neymar, Busquets, Suarez et al.

I knew your true self would rise to the top.

Wishing an injury on a player. And somebody likes it! Good God. How pathetic.

You wish a serious injury on a footballer. Take my advice: stop watching a game you don't understand.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:38 pm

Should have been a red card for the Mexican and a yelow card for Neymar for time wasting.

WadingInDeeper · Post by **WadingInDeeper** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:49 pm

The weird thing is, how many tines he gets himself/the team in a good position, and he falls over, which stops play and undoes the hard work.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:51 pm

The first game i think it was summed him up. Gling clean through and would rather try and win the penalty than score.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:32 pm

You've got to wonder how the 4th official stayed on his feet given that the vicious stamp got his toes as well.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:39 pm

The kind of antics displayed by Neymar needs to be stamped out of the game. I’d have absolutely no problem with someone going right through him on purpose to give him a real reason that’s cry. Pathetic drama queenery.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:46 pm

Right_winger wrote:The kind of antics displayed by Neymar needs to be stamped out of the game. I’d have absolutely no problem with someone going right through him on purpose to give him a real reason that’s cry. Pathetic drama queenery.

So you're promoting an injury to a player?

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:51 pm

FactualFrank wrote:So you're promoting an injury to a player?

absolutely. 2 footed challenge bust his legs up boom. Deserved for his pathetic cheating. See how he rolls about then.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:52 pm

FactualFrank wrote:So you're promoting an injury to a player?

That's Farcical Frank.....

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:04 am

Any player feigning injury should be taken to the side of the pitch and given the actual injury they were complaining about. For fairness, an independent panel of FIFA members, all dressed as referees, of course, should carry out the sentence.
On a more serious note, it would be great to see a rule such as:
“The referee will wave play on if any player dives, feigns injury, exaggerates, simulates, etc, even if there has been a clear foul. The cheat shall then be booked. No punishment for the person committing the alleged foul coz that’s just the way it is”

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:00 am

He was off the pitch anyway. Once they'd done a quick VAR for intent they could have just played on. The cheating f***wad I mean Neymar would have shown recovery levels associated with the miracles of Christ

Im_not_Robbie_Blake · Post by **Im_not_Robbie_Blake** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:22 am

Rivaldo will be proud of him!

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ecc · Post by **ecc** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:07 am

Not sure if this will work.

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Claret · Post by **Claret** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:50 am

ecc wrote:Not sure if this will work.

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I’m not sure it will work either but it’s worth a go if it keeps him on his feet

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:53 am

1. Studs deliberately put on an opponents leg/ foot or any other areas of an opponents body is a serious foul in my book, so a straight red for me. We’ve seen far to much of it in this WC for my liking.

2. A straight yellow for Neymar for constantly over acting in the game and at this incident.

I rest my case

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:02 am

ecc wrote:Not sure if this will work.

.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:30 pm

Trod on Neymars ankle and simultaneously the refs foot.

Only one of them was rolling about in the floor like a ****.

Why didn’t the ref? Because he had nothing to gain that’s why.

Neymar is an embarrasment, good player or not.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:17 am

FactualFrank wrote:I'm just glad somebody else has randomly decided to start talking sense.

It was getting tiring on my own.

And it's obvious why your on your own!

https://www.facebook.com/steve.lane.520 ... 014100092/

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:35 am

bob-the-scutter wrote:And it's obvious why your on your own!

Eric has him nailed for what he is.
https://www.facebook.com/steve.lane.520 ... 014100092/