Walters

[KRBFC]

Something seriously wrong. I used to think this guy was one of the PL's greatest ever signings when at Stoke. Always came up with the goods-a real underrated striker, now he is seemingly frozen out and we are down to the bare bones !!!. Something isn't right here

Doesn't seem like the happy dressing room it once was, Arfield and Marney frozen out, Marney said he hated it, Arfield had digs at us/Dyche, Walters tweets, the performances and the body language are concerning, one thing you could never attribute to a Dyche side was a lack of effort, some players certainly look guilty of it recently. Wood scored in Greece and didn't even crack a smile, the football has turned our players miserable.

[The Enclosure]

Not been the same team spirit since Tom got injured in my view.Not sure Ben is the right person to be Captain on the field.

[JohnMac]

Not surprised Arfield had a dig when he was slagged off nearly every time he played by more than a few in the crowd. Another of our signings not matching the standard required of the fantasy football generation.

Marney was obviously not going to measure up to the rigours of Premier League football given his injury and age.

For Walters and Wells, see Arfield.

Supporting a team is about getting behind them every game and not thinking you are the messiah with all the answers!

[Lancasterclaret]

I love that the likes of KBFC and Cleveleys can say something that is immediately accepted as gospel.

The fact that they sow **** for fun on every thread without anything to back it up is just conveniently ignored because people are looking for reasons to whinge.

Ignore anything they say, unless they can back it up with something.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I love that the likes of KBFC and Cleveleys can say something that is immediately accepted as gospel.

The fact that they sow **** for fun on every thread without anything to back it up is just conveniently ignored because people are looking for reasons to whinge.

Ignore anything they say, unless they can back it up with something.

Think most of what they post gets ignored due to being very high up on the most clueless on here chart. The fact one of them still walks round in his Owen Coyle mask while hating Dyche tells you everything you need to know about the pathological liar.

[joey13]

Not been the same team spirit since Tom got injured in my view.Not sure Ben is the right person to be Captain on the field.

The team went on to finish 7th

[Lancasterclaret]

So?

We don't do facts on here. We only deal in wild speculation and fag packet budget calculations.

[fidelcastro]

Not been the same team spirit since Tom got injured in my view.Not sure Ben is the right person to be Captain on the field.

What a stupid comment.

Who should be captain in Heaton's absence, if not Mee?

[TVC15]

Doesn't seem like the happy dressing room it once was, Arfield and Marney frozen out, Marney said he hated it, Arfield had digs at us/Dyche, Walters tweets, the performances and the body language are concerning, one thing you could never attribute to a Dyche side was a lack of effort, some players certainly look guilty of it recently. Wood scored in Greece and didn't even crack a smile, the football has turned our players miserable.

What an absolute load of horsesh-it.

Do you get off sexually on making all this stuff up ?

Just to pick out one of your ******** lies which players have not been showing a lack of effort ?

[KRBFC]

What an absolute load of horsesh-it.

Do you get off sexually on making all this stuff up ?

Just to pick out one of your ******** lies which players have not been showing a lack of effort ?

I didn't make it up, it's my perception of the situation, maybe I'm putting 2 and 2 together and getting 7, most likely am, just a few things have seemed off. I point towards the Taylor moment on Sunday, the time when Hart saved a 1 on 1 from Schurrle, if you watch it back, Taylor just allows him to run through on goal to receive a pass, meanwhile Taylor (a sub) is walking back. Maybe he just gave up, either way, not something you would expect from a Dyche side.

[KRBFC]

What a stupid comment.

Who should be captain in Heaton's absence, if not Mee?

Cork, leads by example.

[TVC15]

I didn't make it up, it's my perception of the situation, maybe I'm putting 2 and 2 together and getting 7, most likely am, just a few things have seemed off. I point towards the Taylor moment on Sunday, the time when Hart saved a 1 on 1 from Schurrle, if you watch it back, Taylor just allows him to run through on goal to receive a pass, meanwhile Taylor (a sub) is walking back. Maybe he just gave up, either way, not something you would expect from a Dyche side.

As said - you are making it up.
And the reason you make it up is it helps justify the views you have always held on Dyche.

[Silkyskills1]

I love that the likes of KBFC and Cleveleys can say something that is immediately accepted as gospel.

The fact that they sow **** for fun on every thread without anything to back it up is just conveniently ignored because people are looking for reasons to whinge.

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Very succinctly put,Lancasterclaret and so very,very apt.

[evensteadiereddie]

These two chumps aren't even clever or subtle with their winding up anymore. It's blatant, it's embarrassing but at least the majority on this board have seen through them - it's taken some longer than others but we got there in the end.

[JPS71]

These two chumps aren't even clever or subtle with their winding up anymore. It's blatant, it's embarrassing but at least the majority on this board have seen through them - it's taken some longer than others but we got there in the end.

Just put them on your ignore list then you don't ever have to see their drivel unless some one quotes it.
It saves a lot of time just ignoring them.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

I didn't make it up, it's my perception of the situation, maybe I'm putting 2 and 2 together and getting 7, most likely am, just a few things have seemed off. I point towards the Taylor moment on Sunday, the time when Hart saved a 1 on 1 from Schurrle, if you watch it back, Taylor just allows him to run through on goal to receive a pass, meanwhile Taylor (a sub) is walking back. Maybe he just gave up, either way, not something you would expect from a Dyche side.

How did you get to the point in your life where you actually believe everything you post is fact rather than your own personal twisted opinion?

[KRBFC]

How did you get to the point in your life where you actually believe everything you post is fact rather than your own personal twisted opinion?

''it's my perception of the situation, maybe I'm putting 2 and 2 together and getting 7, most likely am''

That would suggest I'm not claiming it to be factual, how can you not understand basic English?

[Lancasterclaret]

But you are putting two and two together and coming up with 11,678

It wouldn't be a massive stretch just to come up with five and be slightly over the top would it?

[KRBFC]

But you are putting two and two together and coming up with 11,678

It wouldn't be a massive stretch just to come up with five and be slightly over the top would it?

Like I said, it's quite possible and likely I am wide of the mark, it's just little things I've noticed which I don't think would've happened 8 months ago.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Like I said, it's quite possible and likely I am wide of the mark, it's just little things I've noticed which I don't think would've happened 8 months ago.

Most probably.

[evensteadiereddie]

Definitely.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Gonna need a new whipping boy if he signs for Ipswich are the whoppers

[PutTheWheelieBinsOut]

Doesn't seem like the happy dressing room it once was, Arfield and Marney frozen out, Marney said he hated it, Arfield had digs at us/Dyche, Walters tweets, the performances and the body language are concerning, one thing you could never attribute to a Dyche side was a lack of effort, some players certainly look guilty of it recently. Wood scored in Greece and didn't even crack a smile, the football has turned our players miserable.

I don't think it's a lack of effort, it's just we can no longer play with all the intensity and physical effort that comes with Dyche's style of play. Dyche's style of play and having the oldest squad in the premier league just simply don't mix. The players are knackered and tired players collect more injuries.

Dyche should have put his balls on the line in the summer and said to the board, 'I created everything we have today, if your not going to back me i'm off'

[jrgbfc]

Sounds like he could be off to Ipswich. Should be a good move for the lad, he seems quite popular there from his previous spell. He desperately needs a fresh start somewhere having an unhappy player just hanging around doesn't do anyone any good.

[boatshed bill]

I don't think it's a lack of effort, it's just we can no longer play with all the intensity and physical effort that comes with Dyche's style of play. Dyche's style of play and having the oldest squad in the premier league just simply don't mix. The players are knackered and tired players collect more injuries.

Interesting point.

[Blackrod]

Sounds like he could be off to Ipswich. Should be a good move for the lad, he seems quite popular there from his previous spell. He desperately needs a fresh start somewhere having an unhappy player just hanging around doesn't do anyone any good.

We just need him off the wage bill. The intention was good with the signing but it's turned out to be a disastrous signing. Wonder how much it has cost us per minute on the pitch and I can hardly remember many quality moments.

[Lancasterclaret]

Worth mentioning that last season achievements far out stripped everyone's wildest dreams, and if we played like we did the season before that, Walters would have fitted in.

Due to us just being better, him getting older and of course the injuries, he's just not had a look in.

It happens and I hope he gets a loan move out of here for the season.

[jrgbfc]

We just need him off the wage bill. The intention was good with the signing but it's turned out to be a disastrous signing. Wonder how much it has cost us per minute on the pitch and I can hardly remember many quality moments.

Bet we'll still be paying at least half of his wage though. Say for arguments sake he's on 20 grand a week, no way Ipswich will be covering that, same probably goes for Wells at QPR.

[joey13]

Wells and Walters = Juke and Sordell

[CoolClaret]

Wells and Walters = Juke and Sordell

Worse! At least Marvin blessed us with a screamer in the cup

[SGr]

Juke
Sordell
Vossen
Hennings
Bamford
Walters
Wells

Gone, but never forgotten.

[Long Time Lurker]

Hmm, have I got this right?

If JBG is out for any length of time we will be down to one first team winger in the form of Lennon. In response to this we might be considering sending Walters out on loan, who can play on the right wing, to save a couple of quid?

Getting injured almost as soon as he came in, which wasn't his fault, denied him the opportunity to gel with the team and fight for a place in the early stages of the season.

By the time he was fit we had an established starting eleven and we were heading into the final stretch of the season which made it hard for him to break through.

I could understand him wanting to leave if a lack of game time was hurting his chances of national team selection, but he just made the national squad.

I could understand him wanting to leave to get more game time, but I suspect he will have a chance of game time here when you take into account our depleted numbers.

At the cost of 16 weeks wages I would keep him here and let him go out on loan or leave on a free in the Winter window if that is what he wants. At the moment we need wingers and he can do a job for us in that position or part of a forward three if we change our formation.

On the other hand if he is causing a stink and ruining the atmosphere, ship him out quickly to anyone who will take him.

[BabylonClaret]

From the twitter reports it lools like Ipswich is a strong possibility (almost done).

I would be cross if thats the case when we are so light. Either its madness given we are struggling out wide or he is causing a stink and we did really bad research last summer.

I thought he was a really good signing last year - the injury was a bit of bad luck and meant we ended up not really seei g him but surely he cant be causi g a rift backstahe - hes been here 12 months. Really poor signing if so.

[Murger]

A complete joke if we let him go. Who plays on the wing if Lennon gets injured?

[Blackrod]

A defender probably

[Wokingclaret]

Tell me, there must be a plan

[tiger76]

I could understand offloading Walters if we had surplus numbers in the squad,but we are down to the bare bones in terms of fit personnel can only think he wants to play regular football,and he doesn't feel that will happen at Burnley.

[Vegas Claret]

we need to start playing 5-2-3
Hart/Heaton/Pope
Lowton Mee Tarks Gibson Ward
Westy Cork
Vokes Wood Barnes

We don't use midfield so let's just bypass it as we have no wingers

[JohnMcGreal]

A complete joke if we let him go. Who plays on the wing if Lennon gets injured?

Joe Hart.

[ClaretTony]

Looks like Ipswich have got him - Walters has just tweeted showing a pic of his sat nav with the hashtag #TakeMeHomeCountryRoads

[Bordeauxclaret]

We are short on numbers but with his whinging lately it’s for the best.

[The Enclosure]

Think Woan..Dyche and Duff had better start getting Dyche fit and putting some time in on the grass.Square pegs in round holes I know but any port etc.

[quoonbeatz]

dyche told walters he could leave in the summer, he can't really go back on that now. realistically we can't offer him first team football, save for maybe a few games.

he'd have been a good signing; if he hadn't got injured so early last season, we'd have seen a lot more of him i think. shame it hasn't worked out but its just one of those things really.

[Lancasterclaret]

Best move for him and for us.

He needs more football than he'd be getting here.

[boatshed bill]

I'll be glad when this is resolved.
Also is it timne for our management to show a bit of faith in our younger players?

[Jakubs Tash]

Apologies if this has already been answered on another thread....but does letting Wells and Walters go open up a couple of spots in our 25 man squad to potentially bring in free agents?

[ClaretAndJew]

Apologies if this has already been answered on another thread....but does letting Wells and Walters go open up a couple of spots in our 25 man squad to potentially bring in free agents?

Yeah but we won't.

[BOYSIE31]

we need to start playing 5-2-3
Hart/Heaton/Pope
Lowton Mee Tarks Gibson Ward
Westy Cork
Vokes Wood Barnes

We don't use midfield so let's just bypass it as we have no wingers

3 keepers might keep out the carnage of goals we are conceding

[kaptin1]

Off to Ipswich on loan

[jlup1980]

The lesser known 8-1-1 formation is just around the corner

Hart
Lowton Bardsley Long Tarkowski Mee Gibson Ward Taylor
Cork
Wood