Joshua v povetkin

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:00 am

What a refreshing change the Russian is compared to some of the pumped up pricks currently in the heavyweight division
It's almost like rocky IV in reverse

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:08 am

CBT wrote:What a refreshing change the Russian is compared to some of the pumped up pricks currently in the heavyweight division
It's almost like rocky IV in reverse

This post prompted me to check the triple G fight...I now know he lost but under what circumstances ?

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:36 am

Surely I can’t be alone in hoping Povetkin wipes out hearns golden goose?

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:43 am

Right_winger wrote:Surely I can’t be alone in hoping Povetkin wipes out hearns golden goose?

I think AJ is over-rated, and Hearn is a slimy toad but I don't want him to lose. Certainly not to a drug cheat

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:04 am

Damo wrote:I think AJ is over-rated, and Hearn is a slimy toad but I don't want him to lose. Certainly not to a drug cheat

One of the main reasons I want Joshua to lose is because of Hearn and the hype. AJ is overrated. I’m also of the belief that AJ is also on the PEDs

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:09 am

Right_winger wrote:One of the main reasons I want Joshua to lose is because of Hearn and the hype. AJ is overrated. I’m also of the belief that AJ is also on the PEDs

What makes you believe that?

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:32 am

Damo wrote:What makes you believe that?

Believe that AJ is on the PEDs.. he has quite a lot of the physical tell tale signs... he has a protruding stomach commonly associated with HGH abuse, he has anabolic nipple, lots of superficial muscle mass, plenty of his fellow pros have spoken out against him aswell.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:42 am

Right_winger wrote:Believe that AJ is on the PEDs.. he has quite a lot of the physical tell tale signs... he has a protruding stomach commonly associated with HGH abuse, he has anabolic nipple, lots of superficial muscle mass, plenty of his fellow pros have spoken out against him aswell.

Did you read this nonsense on boxing scene?

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:50 am

Damo wrote:Did you read this nonsense on boxing scene?

No... it’s fairly obvious.. and the pros who’ve spoken out against him have done so on many platforms.

It’s obvious looking at him he’s cycling the PEDs

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:31 am

Right_winger wrote:No... it’s fairly obvious.. and the pros who’ve spoken out against him have done so on many platforms.

It’s obvious looking at him he’s cycling the PEDs

He’s probably the most tested man in boxing, unfortunately for some people it’s hard to accept that some people are genetic freaks when it comes to muscle growth.

I like him, he’s great for the sport.

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:03 am

Not of Fan of Joshua and his manufactured humble (yeah right) persona, however I don't want to see him beaten by a proven drug cheat.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:06 am

You people do realise Joshua is also a convicted drug dealer?

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:11 am

Right_winger wrote:You people do realise Joshua is also a convicted drug dealer?

I do, hence my comments re his 'humble' persona. Can't speak for anyone else.

Sproggy · Post by **Sproggy** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:24 am

Anabolic nipple? Every day is a school day. I'm not googling that from work, mind.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:30 am

Sproggy wrote:Anabolic nipple? Every day is a school day. I'm not googling that from work, mind.

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:15 am

The only black boxer I can remember the British public taking to their hearts was Bruno which I pretty sad.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:17 am

Yeah Lennox Lewis was disliked

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:23 am

Yeah Lennox Lewis was disliked

He wasn't liked either .... and he certainly wasn't loved and it was a marriage of convenience for both him and us. The amount of time he has spent in the UK since retirement shows how much he felt British!

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:31 am

If you think Frank Bruno is the only black boxer that the British public have taken to then then you must have very little knowledge about boxing.
Nigel Benn, Lloyd Honygan, Herrol Graham, Jonny Nelson and even Chris Eubank towards the end of his career despite his brash personality just to name a few.
Mind you, Amir Khan seems to be really disliked by lots of people for no apparent reason so perhaps you do have a point

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:51 am

Damo wrote: Mind you, Amir Khan seems to be really disliked by lots of people for no apparent reason so perhaps you do have a point

No reason whatsoever, apart from the bit where mowed the guy down on a zebra, effectively killing him whilst on on the wrong side of the road doing one half times the speed limit, displayed the required remorse to get the charge reduced, then subsequently got caught doing 140 on the M62.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:18 am

BigChaCha wrote:The only black boxer I can remember the British public taking to their hearts was Bruno which I pretty sad.

Oh dear someone couldn’t wait to play that card..

Shame as it’s of no use whatsoever now and has zero relevance to the reasons for disliking Joshua.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:29 am

It's weird that alot of actual boxing fans don't like Joshua. In a very short career he's done absolutely brilliantly. How many heavyweights have collected 3 of the belts in around 20 fights? He's got more names on his record than wilder, who's had double the amount of fights. After 20 fights, wilder was fighting total bums.
Yet boxing fans swoon over fury after one admittedly brilliant display against wlad. But that fight was also dull as dishwater compared to Joshua's fight with him.
Joshua isn't complete by any means, but he wouldn't be because he's still a relative novice!

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:51 am

Caballo wrote:No reason whatsoever, apart from the bit where mowed the guy down on a zebra, effectively killing him whilst on on the wrong side of the road doing one half times the speed limit, displayed the required remorse to get the charge reduced, then subsequently got caught doing 140 on the M62.

I didn't realise the bloke had died or the circumstances behind the collision.
My bad

DomBFC1882 · Post by **DomBFC1882** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:59 am

Povetkin by KO

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:11 am

It's sort of fashionable to be left field and and like Fury in the English boxing world over Joshua.
One fights absilute bums and talks a good game and the other as highlighted earlier in the thread, takes on the best.
Joshua has had a few different tests recently and come through them. No fighter can expect to go through his career without these tough spots.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:39 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:It's sort of fashionable to be left field and and like Fury in the English boxing world over Joshua.
One fights absilute bums and talks a good game and the other as highlighted earlier in the thread, takes on the best.
Joshua has had a few different tests recently and come through them. No fighter can expect to go through his career without these tough spots.

It's not like that at all.
Perhaps you just don't really understand boxing. From a purist point of view, Furys win against Klitschko was much better than AJ's. Fury' s win was a technical masterclass against a guy who was considered unbeatable. AJ's win was much more exciting, I was a nervous wreck by the end of the fight myself but by that point, Wlad had decided to call it a day and would of beaten AJ with his usual approach.
I don't personally feel anyone really dislikes AJ but a lot of boxing fans consider him to be over-rated. I'd say the current crop of heavyweights all are but it's been slim pickings in that division for far too long.
AJ is lauded as a all time great by the media already though due to his marketing team and that probably makes boxing fans more dismissive of him. He won't care though as he is making an absolute fortune and the reality is, it's good for boxing that the casuals are getting behind him. The more people who take an interest in the sport the better. Especially with the popularity of the UFC nonsense over the last 10 years

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:44 am

It always strikes me as strange that people expect elite boxers to be salt of the earth characters, when really it's a sport where it's almost a requirement to have a bit of an edge to your personality, given that often times your overriding goal is to knock somebody senseless. Then when we get a boxer like Anthony Joshua, who genuinely seems like a nice bloke, it's dismissed as fake. True, AJ got caught dealing weed in his early 20s but I'm sure his outlook and general maturity have changed a lot since then.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:07 am

Damo wrote:It's not like that at all.
Perhaps you just don't really understand boxing. From a purist point of view, Furys win against Klitschko was much better than AJ's. Fury' s win was a technical masterclass against a guy who was considered unbeatable. AJ's win was much more exciting, I was a nervous wreck by the end of the fight myself but by that point, Wlad had decided to call it a day and would of beaten AJ with his usual approach.
I don't personally feel anyone really dislikes AJ but a lot of boxing fans consider him to be over-rated. I'd say the current crop of heavyweights all are but it's been slim pickings in that division for far too long.
AJ is lauded as a all time great by the media already though due to his marketing team and that probably makes boxing fans more dismissive of him. He won't care though as he is making an absolute fortune and the reality is, it's good for boxing that the casuals are getting behind him. The more people who take an interest in the sport the better. Especially with the popularity of the UFC nonsense over the last 10 years

Although I wanted Fury to win against Vlad, the fight was absolute dross. You had one fighter ducking and diving and the other who was so used to getting the result on points he didn't ever try and throw anything.

As you say the excitement of AJ has breathed new life into boxing which is much needed. Fury can't hide behind is press conferences and social media anymore to keep fans happy. He has to go and put in a performance in the ring.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:37 am

Fury is very under rated technically. People look at his early channel 5 career when he was very green and very unfit. He then matured into a much better boxer and not sure how anyone could say his fight against Klitschko was anything other than a masterclass- Fury v AJ would be very interesting. Personally I think Fury would win. What I am pretty convinced with is that AJ will get beat in the next couple of years.

AJ is decent - and actually I don’t mind him as a person. He speaks well and generally he is respectful to other boxers. I despise Hearn though and everything he does as a promoter.

I love boxing and have followed it for a lot of years. The current heavyweight division is poor - possibly the poorest in history. It’s been like this for at least the last 10 years. Americans do not want to box at this weight anymore - they prefer to go into more lucrative sports. Take a country like America out of the heavyweight division and it’s decimated. That is the only reason that the likes of AJ, Fury and even the Klitschko brothers have done so well....take these guys back 20 years and they would struggle to be in the top 10.

paulus the woodgnome · Post by **paulus the woodgnome** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:16 pm

TVC15 wrote:....take these guys back 20 years and they would struggle to be in the top 10.

I do not agree with that. Here are the Ring Magazine top 10 heavies from 1998:

1. Evander Holyfield
2. Lennox Lewis
3. Michael Grant
4. Michael Moorer
5. Shannon Briggs
6. Chris Byrd
7. Ike Ibeabuchi
8. David Tua
9. Andrew Golota
10. Hasim Rahman

I'd say Joshua would comfortably be No 3 on that list.

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:44 pm

What time is the ringwalk?

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:46 pm

It will probably be around 10 -10.45pm..

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:47 pm

karatekid wrote:What time is the ringwalk?

It'll be around 10-10.30pm I imagine.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:48 pm

9.50pm according to the Sun online.

Usually later than advertised though.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:58 pm

I dont see the issue with Joshua. I had a complete dislike to Lewis because of the way he covered Bruno's eye to take his belt, but also he's Canadian. I loved Tyson (yes American), Benn, Bruno, Calazahgi, and i have grown to like George groves. Joshua is the real deal, but as Brits always do, some will try taking shots at him no matter how low they want to go.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:26 pm

Anyone got a link to a decent stream?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:57 pm

SammyBoy wrote:Anyone got a link to a decent stream?

Get IPTV mate , £60 for 12 months , get all Premier League football, Sky BT , movies etc

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:01 pm

paulus the woodgnome wrote:I do not agree with that. Here are the Ring Magazine top 10 heavies from 1998:

1. Evander Holyfield
2. Lennox Lewis
3. Michael Grant
4. Michael Moorer
5. Shannon Briggs
6. Chris Byrd
7. Ike Ibeabuchi
8. David Tua
9. Andrew Golota
10. Hasim Rahman

I'd say Joshua would comfortably be No 3 on that list.

Sorry but disagree, Michael Grant is probably the most likening to Joshua on that list and he got found out.

MRG · Post by **MRG** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:02 pm

joey13 wrote:Get IPTV mate , £60 for 12 months , get all Premier League football, Sky BT , movies etc

Isn’t there a poster on here who can sort us out with the IPTV?

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:12 pm

MRG wrote:Isn’t there a poster on here who can sort us out with the IPTV?

Think you might be on about Cutsy.
I believe he got the elbow.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:12 pm

MRG wrote:Isn’t there a poster on here who can sort us out with the IPTV?

I don’t know , got it a few weeks ago and it’s been brilliant

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:14 pm

MRG wrote:Isn’t there a poster on here who can sort us out with the IPTV?

Not sure he posts anymore but I’ve got it and works a treat.

jordsclarets · Post by **jordsclarets** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:28 pm

Anyone got a stream for the fight?

Kevwando · Post by **Kevwando** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:35 pm

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wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:44 pm

Well the last undercard of Campbell/Mendy has just gone the distance with Campbell unanimously winning on points

paulus the woodgnome · Post by **paulus the woodgnome** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:46 pm

Right_winger wrote:Sorry but disagree, Michael Grant is probably the most likening to Joshua on that list and he got found out.

That's why Joshua, at 3, would be above him in the list. Grant - 1 title fight and utterly blitzed by Lennox. Joshua a superior fighter.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:10 pm

Anyone have a genuine virus free link please?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:11 pm

Just back home. Tuned in via Redbox. Super picture.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:19 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Think you might be on about Cutsy.
I believe he got the elbow.

Cutsy123@outlook.co.uk . If you need him. Its not me btw

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:37 pm

Ripple is working very well
And as I typed this it froze