Young soldiers pose with Tommy Robinson.

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:37 am

Slap on wrist yes,FULL army investigation? your having a laugh..

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:56 am

Our Tommy should be a national hero. A monument needs to be put in London to show what a hero he is. These poor lads were just posing with an English hero that's all. The liberal loonies on the left have caused two brave hero's to come under investigation.

DomBFC1882 · Post by **DomBFC1882** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:59 am

Await the leftie loons

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Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:09 am

Where's my popcorn

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:12 am

Can't have popcorn anymore Falcon.

Its been banned by the mussie PC libtards

KeighleyClaret · Post by **KeighleyClaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:16 am

Not even his real name. He is a relatively unintelligent populist who doesn’t understand the legal system and stigmatises people based solely on religion.

So I suppose that makes me a left wing liberal? But if I was I surely wouldn’t detest him so much.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:18 am

Nothing to see here, absolutely no historical context to a far right nutter and soldiers. What could possibly go wrong?

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:19 am

I’m interested in what people think their punishment should be ?

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:20 am

It's a real shame that 'liberal' has become a dirty word.

Adjective: Willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

Nowadays people use it to mean the opposite of conservative, when in fact it is the opposite of authoritarian.

Spaceman · Post by **Spaceman** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:20 am

I was at a war grave ceremony recently and loads of the first world war dead were Muslim. They all lie together. The Army is meant to represent us all.
These kids are just crows. Not sure they knew what they were getting into. Pretty sure someone will be getting an arse kicking at cadet night on Thursday .

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:23 am

I'd need to see the context Smudge to be honest.

But if the context is "Wow, its Tommy Robinson, he's my hero and I just want a selfie with him" then I'm pretty sure he shouldn't be in the British Army.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:24 am

Context is very important here.

I expect soldiers may get quite a few requests for selfies from members of the public. Perhaps they didn't even know who he was?

Spaceman · Post by **Spaceman** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:26 am

SmudgetheClaret wrote:I’m interested in what people think their punishment should be ?

Someone will shout at them and make them do a few press ups.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:29 am

Falcon wrote:It's a real shame that 'liberal' has become a dirty word.

Adjective: Willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

Nowadays people use it to mean the opposite of conservative, when in fact it is the opposite of authoritarian.

That's because people claim to be liberal who are clearly anything but

KeighleyClaret · Post by **KeighleyClaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:36 am

Damo wrote:That's because people claim to be liberal who are clearly anything but

That’s ********.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:38 am

Hey I fully respect Tommy Robinson new career choice as a speaker for the persecuted white majority. I'll even forget his four criminal convictions if it helps.

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:44 am

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RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:44 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Hey I fully respect Tommy Robinson new career choice as a speaker for the persecuted white majority. I'll even forget his four criminal convictions if it helps.

Says the "liberal" who lives in a small , probably 99.9% white village near Lancaster. One of the least ethnically diverse town/city in the UK!!!

You must have a fabulous view of the rest of us racist knuckle dragging Nazis, from that ivory tower of yours.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:50 am

Yeah Lancs, you need to move house you liberal *******

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:54 am

Seems Robinson saw them at a motorway services went over had a picture then tweeted it , you can hear a few singing his name on the vid as well. Army will likely slap a few wrists as its a group photo . Not like it’s a prearranged photo shoot with a KKK member or the like .

I don’t really have time for Robinson but he certainly puts the fear of god into the powers that be and anyone who winds up the snowflakes like he does deserves at least a smirk of recognition .

Didn’t he go all happy clappy and join a Muslim unity type group ??

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:01 am

KeighleyClaret wrote:That’s ********.

That's a ridiculous assertion. To claim that no-one who claims to be liberal can possibly be illiberal as a blanket statement is nonsense and smacks of "mind made up".

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:03 am

Falcon wrote:Context is very important here.

I expect soldiers may get quite a few requests for selfies from members of the public. Perhaps they didn't even know who he was?

They did. There was some half-arsed chanting of his name by the soldiers.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:06 am

Falcon wrote:Yeah Lancs, you need to move house you liberal *******

he cant afford to because all of the immigrants have made house prices go up beyond what he can afford...

[am I doing this right?]

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:08 am

KeighleyClaret wrote:That’s ********.

Sorry, I posted in haste while waiting to be served coffee.

What I meant was, there are plenty of people around who claim to be liberal who are anything but.

I know a few people who are genuinely liberal, and have the qualities that Falcon described.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:16 am

Now you've clarified it Damo I agree you make a fair point. There are too many people on both sides of any debate that just put their fingers in their ears and go 'la la la'

The problem with your initial post is it read like you were trying to shut genuinely liberal people down, which is clearly the same offence that your 'illiberal liberals' are guilty of.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:16 am

AlargeClaret wrote:Seems Robinson saw them at a motorway services went over had a picture then tweeted it , you can hear a few singing his name on the vid as well. Army will likely slap a few wrists as its a group photo . Not like it’s a prearranged photo shoot with a KKK member or the like .

I don’t really have time for Robinson but he certainly puts the fear of god into the powers that be and anyone who winds up the snowflakes like he does deserves at least a smirk of recognition .

Didn’t he go all happy clappy and join a Muslim unity type group ??

He's just an opportunistic shithouse taking advantage of a situation to get his mug in the public eye again and stirring up a few of his mob who clearly think the military should be allowed to pose for photos with who they like.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:21 am

I tend to find myself thinking when I see Tommy Robinson in the news just let him be there don't shut or shout him down.

If someone manages to make himself a victim (in the he does) he picks up support very quickly, let him speak and expose himself. I remember Nick Griffin going on Question Time and there was panic in the days leading up to the episode. The viewers were shown a bumbling idiot who couldn't keep still due to being out of his comfort zone and exposed himself as an idiot, soon after he becomes irrelevant.

Had his appearance stopped as some demanded he then picks up more support as the victim, let them do their thing and most people soon discover the truth.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:22 am

Spaceman wrote:Not sure they knew what they were getting into. Pretty sure someone will be getting an arse kicking at cadet night on Thursday .

TR knew what he was doing when he put this video online. I feel really sorry for the young soldiers in the video. They were naive, but Robinson isn't.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:22 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:Says the "liberal" who lives in a small , probably 99.9% white village near Lancaster. One of the least ethnically diverse town/city in the UK!!!

You must have a fabulous view of the rest of us racist knuckle dragging Nazis, from that ivory tower of yours.

So, as where I live is way more diverse than where Ringo lives does that mean my views are even more valid?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:23 am

is that what he put?

******* hell Ringo, you need serious help mate.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:29 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:is that what he put?

******* hell Ringo, you need serious help mate.

That's quite stalky. He'll be doxing you next, Lancs.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:59 am

aggi wrote:So, as where I live is way more diverse than where Ringo lives does that mean my views are even more valid?

No. Your view is of equal value.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:04 pm

I'd imagine most of them don't know who he is.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:11 pm

Falcon wrote:It's a real shame that 'liberal' has become a dirty word.

Adjective: Willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

Nowadays people use it to mean the opposite of conservative, when in fact it is the opposite of authoritarian.

Damn right Falcon.

It seems that, since the EU vote and election of Trump, it's become worse. Willing to accept opinions different from one's own and being open to new ideas is completely alien to activists of any persuasion now.

Debate has become a waste of time.

And everyone knows that young people do daft things ffs

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:12 pm

Rowls wrote:I'd imagine most of them don't know who he is.

I agree. Also publishing this video online is a pretty low thing to do. He's not stupid. He knew it would give him a lot of publicity. I do feel sorry for the cadets in the video. It's all about Tommy and Tommy doesn't give a ****.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:16 pm

Will that be "convicted illegal immigrant Steven Yaxley Lennon"?

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:34 pm

I was more disgusted at the sight of Gordon Brown shaking Robert Mugabe’s hand than Robinson with a few squaddies

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:49 pm

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Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:50 pm

A foolish thing to do really, I don't mind him personally but if I was employed in a job funded by the taxpayers he'd be the last person I'd want to be photographed or videoed with.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:51 pm

Dy1geo wrote:I was more disgusted at the sight of Gordon Brown shaking Robert Mugabe’s hand than Robinson with a few squaddies

And what about the Queen shaking the hand of Martin McGuinness?

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:56 pm

Spijed wrote:And what about the Queen shaking the hand of Martin McGuinness?

There are fine lines and nuance to all this. What did Gordon Brown achieve with his blunder?

The Queen and McGuinness shaking hands was a highly symbolic and important part of securing the lasting ceasefire/peace in NI.

Brown was just ambushed and didn't react quick enough, bumbling into it.

What is more, none of this has anything to do with the topic.

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:02 pm

Context is everything in this the Armed Forces or it’s members can’t be associated with the vile views that Robinson and the like reportedly represent. If this is just stupidity and they are young then the punishment will be a simple Restriction of Priveleges type scenario I guess. If there are more senior members around or there is more to it then they will be punished far more severely maybe even involving discharge.

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:05 pm

Rowls wrote:There are fine lines and nuance to all this. What did Gordon Brown achieve with his blunder?

The Queen and McGuinness shaking hands was a highly symbolic and important part of securing the lasting ceasefire/peace in NI.

Brown was just ambushed and didn't react quick enough, bumbling into it.

What is more, none of this has anything to do with the topic.

The point I am making is that someone will always be “upset” “offended” etc if someone is “seen to be cosying” up to an individual/s that they don’t like. Should the squaddies be punished because of being pictured and singing TR songs, no they shouldn’t.

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:20 pm

The odd thing about this is if it was Corbyn and the young lads were giving it”oh Jeremy Corbyn “ they would more than likely get slaughtered even more lol

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:23 pm

Dy1geo

I’m sorry that is plain wrong of course they should be punished. No member of the armed forces is allowed to associate with members of or be part of any far right organizations. If they are in Uniform they will be seen as bringing the Army into disrepute. The MOD will have seen this as smudge did and **** rolls downhill there CO will have had a call and so on.

The bottom line is a Soldier is the face of the Army, some people will link the photo to the Army supporting racism which can’t be seen.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:30 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:Dy1geo

I’m sorry that is plain wrong of course they should be punished. No member of the armed forces is allowed to associate with members of or be part of any far right organizations. If they are in Uniform they will be seen as bringing the Army into disrepute. The MOD will have seen this as smudge did and **** rolls downhill there CO will have had a call and so on.

The bottom line is a Soldier is the face of the Army, some people will link the photo to the Army supporting racism which can’t be seen.

The photo will also be used as propaganda by Islamic terrorist groups, which lets be honest, Robinson would be fine with given he wants to stoke up a race war.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:34 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:The odd thing about this is if it was Corbyn and the young lads were giving it”oh Jeremy Corbyn “ they would more than likely get slaughtered even more lol

Funny you should say that because he's posed with "freedom fighters" * from many causes who fought the British but from a very, very quick google search I cannot find a single picture of him with the British army.

* make your own inferences here

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:37 pm

Five points to anyone who can find a picture of Jeremy Corbyn posing for a photo with the British army.

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:42 pm

Falcon yes they could and that is my point. The sad fact that some will miss here is that Robinson will know this and also know that he has potentially destroyed these guys careers certainly there will be adverse affect on them. Robinson obviously wanted the publicity and that is all he cared about they are just cannon fodder to him. That to me is the most disgusting part of this despicable behavior from him.