Brexit - What are you going to stockpile?

[SmudgetheClaret]

Nothing cus it's simply project fear BS...

[timshorts]

No. He will accept the result like a grown up should.

That's right. Chelsea, we beat you 3-2 away. Get over it. That should be the result every year. We object to having to play the game over again.

[Bfcboyo]

If you didn't read the rest of my post I can understand how you'd feel that way, but ports blocking up absolutely does put similar kind of stress on supply chains as a siege, however brief it may be. It doesn't require a wild imagination to envisage how. Whether it's through war or a diplomatic black hole, a delay is delayed. I noticed you didn't care to challenge the rest of my post.

A very over the top comparison. Maybe a real wartime era would wake a few people up and stop the hysterical panic attacks of those against leaving


It wont be life or death we will still be very privileged in the grand scheme.

[Stayingup]

Under the new rules it will be as hard to get stuff from the EU as it is from the rest of the world. So it will now be as hard to get pineapples from spain as it is to get them from the Canary Islands. We should be worried.

You should be worried you haven't got a clue what your saying.

[Clarethalffull]

I am not going to stockpile anything. You just have to believe that you can have what you want.

You just have to BELEIVE!

[Stayingup]

Doesn't work like that Quick

There is a reason the Port of Dover took out adverts warning about a No Deal during the Conservative Party conference, and it wasn't because they are all secret remoaner libtards.

What was it then? None of my imports come through Dover anyway. I get most from Asia. Felixtowe and Southampton. Why they can't use Liverpool? Because it's in the North.

[Stayingup]

I honestly thought you remainers would be a little more rational by now

How can someone who wants to give up centuries of soverienty to a foreign hostile power be rational?

[Damo]

We never really expected any kind of rationality from you.

Great reply Charlie.
It doesn't come across as desperate at all mate

[Lancasterclaret]

He has a point though.

There are a lot of brexiteers on here who are perfectly sound rational people.

There are just as many who are smacked off their tits.

[Bfcboyo]

He has a point though.

There are a lot of brexiteers on here who are perfectly sound rational people.

There are just as many who are smacked off their tits.

Nice language seems you may have joined them.

[RingoMcCartney]

He has a point though.

There are a lot of brexiteers on here who are perfectly sound rational people.

There are just as many who are smacked off their tits.

Another example of the man who likes to portray himself as the message board political behemoth.!

[HatfieldClaret]

He has a point though.

There are a lot of brexiteers on here who are perfectly sound rational people.

There are just as many who are smacked off their tits.

Fair point Lancaster, but I think that goes for all posters on here.......

[Spiral]

A very over the top comparison. Maybe a real wartime era would wake a few people up and stop the hysterical panic attacks of those against leaving


It wont be life or death we will still be very privileged in the grand scheme.

I'm almost certainly wasting my breath at this point so I'll just leave it at saying you're clearly misrepresenting the points I'm making about supply chains in the event of no deal, and the ignorant, c'est la vie attitude you're displaying when the consequences involve people's livelihoods makes you an atrocious advocate for brexit.

[dsr]

At present, less than 3% of goods arriving from non-EU foreign countries have the paperwork checked at the border; even less has its contents physically checked. Most of those checks are imports where Customs already suspects the importer is on the fiddle. If the number of imports almost doubles, then while Customs gets up to speed, the number of spot checks will fall. This "not quite 3%" isn't a gold standard of the ideal number, it's a practical all-they-can-reasonably-do figure. The percentage will fall after Brexit, until they get back up to speed. Bear in mind there will be £30bn or so tariffs coming in with these goods, so there's a fair bit of leeway for employing some extra staff!

[Lancasterclaret]

Thats not going to be how it works.

Its almost like you don't have a scooby doo how it actually works, and are just hoping that by making stuff up that people won't challenge you.

See also - Ringo and the Speaker of the House of Commons.

[dsr]

Thats not going to be how it works.

How is it going to work?

[Greenmile]

At present, less than 3% of goods arriving from non-EU foreign countries have the paperwork checked at the border; even less has its contents physically checked. Most of those checks are imports where Customs already suspects the importer is on the fiddle. If the number of imports almost doubles, then while Customs gets up to speed, the number of spot checks will fall. This "not quite 3%" isn't a gold standard of the ideal number, it's a practical all-they-can-reasonably-do figure. The percentage will fall after Brexit, until they get back up to speed. Bear in mind there will be £30bn or so tariffs coming in with these goods, so there's a fair bit of leeway for employing some extra staff!

If it’s that simple, why are they building a massive lorry park on the M20?

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Probably because they’ve taken advice off those damn experts, instead of good old “common sense” from folk like dsr.

[Lancasterclaret]

There is an excellent BBC Look South East ten minute thingy in which they took a shipment from Switzerland to the UK, pointing out all the extra bits they has to do on the way. I'm trying to find it on youtube but it must be called something else.

Its a good watch, because it can't be spun as its an actual load going through customs checks and the like.

This will have to do, shows the lorries parked up on the German/Swiss border awaiting entry into Switzerland

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[Devils_Advocate]

This has got the makings of an Alan partridge produced tv show whereby DSR drives a load of Brexiteers to France to pick up some blue passports and unicorns and imports them back into the U.K.

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

Isn’t it a shame that a group of countries couldn’t just come together and agree a trade deal that suited all without wanting to become a United States Of Europe with a single currency, USE army etc. A simple trade agreement without interfering in each other’s countries would be simply lovely.

[Paul Waine]

There is an excellent BBC Look South East ten minute thingy in which they took a shipment from Switzerland to the UK, pointing out all the extra bits they has to do on the way. I'm trying to find it on youtube but it must be called something else.

Its a good watch, because it can't be spun as its an actual load going through customs checks and the like.

This will have to do, shows the lorries parked up on the German/Swiss border awaiting entry into Switzerland

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Hi Lancs, did you catch the feature on Immingham at the start of the One Show tonight? It's a big, busy port. A lot of the container traffic comes in and goes out thru there.


Port of Dover http://www.doverport.co.uk/cargo/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; "Dover Cargo Terminal handles 300,000 tonnes annually - around 9,000 container units per year.

"The Port of Immingham is the UK's largest port by tonnage, handling around 55 million tonnes." http://www.abports.co.uk/Our_Locations/ ... Immingham/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

OK, Immingham handles a lot more than just containers - so I dug a little deeper:

Seven ABP ports handle containers.
Our main container operations in Southampton, Hull, Immingham and Cardiff handle nearly 2 million containers every year.
The terminals operated by ABP and our partners, DP World Southampton and PD Ports, offer services to destinations worldwide.
Southampton is the UK’s second largest container terminal and Europe's most efficient container terminal. The SCT 5 berth was recently opened in Southampton, a new 500 metre quay representing £110 million of investment and capable of handling the largest vessels in the world.
The Port's of Immingham and Hull are the gateways to Scandinavia and Continental Europe from the UK's East Coast. Both ports offer deep sea routes and onward connections.

http://www.abports.co.uk/Trades_Sectors/Containers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I know the above doesn't report all the volumes for Dover and EuroTunnel (or whatever it is now called).

And, for fun, I took a look at Heathrow Cargo operations - I couldn't find anything current - Dec 2016 132,000 tonnes of cargo was predicted to go thru Heathrow Christmas 2016. (And, I think the whole idea of air cargo is not the weight but the speed of delivery and the higher values).

https://www.heathrow.com/company/cargo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Paul Waine]

This has got the makings of an Alan partridge produced tv show whereby DSR drives a load of Brexiteers to France to pick up some blue passports and unicorns and imports them back into the U.K.

Will Alan choose to travel via Dover or Southampton or Heathrow?

I guess Norwich would be his answer.

[Devils_Advocate]

Will Alan choose to travel via Dover or Southampton or Heathrow?

I guess Norwich would be his answer.

Well it won't be by the Eurostar

[Lancasterclaret]

Dover is 10,000 lorries per day (roughly)

The real thing would be to find out what comes in perishable items like medicine and foodstuffs.

Pretty sure the reason that Raab made that daft speech last week about only realising the importance of Dover-Calais is that a disproportionate amount of those stuff comes through Dover.

There is a reason for the plans to turn the M23 (or is it the M22, can never remember!) into a massive car park. "Operation Stack" causes complete chaos when the weather is inclement.

Been a while since I worked in the industry, but in comparison at the time Heysham Docks to NI and the Republic would do about 350 lorries a day, and its a bit busier now.

[Lancasterclaret]

Confirmation that the ERG are not as powerful as all the Brexiteers where trying to make out in all the papers tomorrow as well.

**** funny that everyone has been trending softly around them because of the damage they might do and when push comes to shove, they collapse like a pack of cards.

[Bfcboyo]

I'm almost certainly wasting my breath at this point so I'll just leave it at saying you're clearly misrepresenting the points I'm making about supply chains in the event of no deal, and the ignorant, c'est la vie attitude you're displaying when the consequences involve people's livelihoods makes you an atrocious advocate for brexit.

How bad will our lives be . We are spoilt rotten living like kings. All fighting imaginary causes. That is why we support Burnley.

The fans have never been so unhappy in the prem we love misery and depression.

A no deal might give the country its backbone again. As would league 1 for Burnley.

I am no hard line brexiteer or remainer . I just see things need to change. Not immigration not trade deals just this attitude of the country . It is a spoilt brat at the moment . The problem isn't with foreigners working here it is with the system , currently our working class are not all willing to work. It is a mess.

Re-open the mines and the mills and get national service back.

[JohnMcGreal]

Re-open the mines and the mills and get national service back.

Potential slogan for the Leave campaign bus in the next referendum.