Trump's Lies

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:01 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Don't forget that while being weak, faggoty little snowflakes we're simultaneously fascistic, violent, riotous, intolerant and full of hate.

'The Fascist Snowflakes' sounds like a brilliant band name.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:03 am

Spiral wrote:'The Fascist Snowflakes' sounds like a brilliant band name.

Sounds like it should be my new corp's name in EVE.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:10 am

Well I'm not a PC gamer (ooh, look at you with your virtue signalling pOLITICALcORRE gamiNsgbsbgsljbvsbvuldsfbs¬!!odbfsodbf£!kJOURQ) so I've only a limited understanding of what that means but Christ, those Star Citizen demos might just make me join the master race.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:12 am

Spiral wrote:Well I'm not a PC gamer (ooh, look at you with your virtue signalling pOLITICALcORRE gamiNsgbsbgsljbvsbvuldsfbs¬!!odbfsodbf£!kJOURQ) so I've only a limited understanding of what that means but Christ, those Star Citizen demos might just make me join the master race.

All ascensions are good ascensions.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:08 am

Check this article out defending Trump and Kushner.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06 ... -says.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Notice something missing? No by-line. Whoever wrote it isn't willing to attach their name to it. Yet somehow some people think Fox News is more credible than anyone else.
The Daily Mail do this online too with some articles they only say is written by "Daily Mail Reporter".

This isn't journalism, it's yellow journalism.
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Edit: And here's what it looks like when a news organisation actually does have a partisan agenda.

Trump has a voter suppression scheme going on and has demanded all the personal details of ever American on the electoral rolls from every state.
Fox News Headline: Dem state officials refusing to cooperate with Trump voter fraud probe

Fox tells it's readers that it's just the Democrats who are not obeying the request. These evil Democrats. Look at them and how they want to hide voter fraud. Problem is out of 27 states (so far) refusing to hand over voter rolls, 15 of them have Republican governors. Texas, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Arizona, Indiana, New Mexico, Nevada, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, and Wisconsin. But not a word from those retards who constantly scream "fake news" when ever a news organisation they don't like reports on something they don't want reporting.

And watch how Fox doesn't retract their story, or apologise to its readers. This will demonstrate how different Fox is from credible news organisations.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:31 pm

Thursday: “the president in no way, form, or fashion has ever promoted or encouraged violence.” - Trump's Deputy Press Secretary (his spokeswoman)
Sunday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40474118" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:09 pm

Apparently Trump is coming to London this week. Are we Brits being kept in the dark to reduce the number of protestors?

The man is an ignoramus, sexist, puffed up piece of s**t.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:24 pm

There didn't appear to be much outrage or indeed much said about trump at all until he became a serious contender for POTUS.

It's amazing what the media can do.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:17 pm

Right_winger wrote:There didn't appear to be much outrage or indeed much said about trump at all until he became a serious contender for POTUS.

It's amazing what the media can do.

Turtle's gonna get ya, Turtle's gonna get ya.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:29 am

Right_winger wrote:There didn't appear to be much outrage or indeed much said about trump at all until he became a serious contender for POTUS.

It's amazing what the media can do.

Probably because back then he was just a racist joke who peddled racist conspiracy theories about Barack Obama. Lied and bullshitted about investigators he claimed to have who he said "cannot believe what they're finding" out about Obama and his birth certificate. The man is just contantly lying, and we saw similar bullshit to this recently when he tried to pretend he had recorded his conversations with James Comey, in an effort, Trump says, to influence Comey's testimony to congress; a crime. The dumb **** then says his plan to influence the testimony worked because Comey told the truth, yet Comey's testimony was utterly damning to Trump.

Those of us paying attention prior to his racist announcement speech 2 years ago had seen him for the compulsive liar that he is long before he began officially running for president. We also knew he was incredibly stupid with his completely needless lying. We knew he was racist from the times when the courts decided he was and from when he took out a full page advert demanding five innocent black men be executed for a crime he was (and still is, i think) convinced they committed. Back then he was just a joke and no one really took him seriously because surely the American right-wing isn't so insane as to elect someone so obviously not up to the job as this guy.

But it turns out we were wrong. The American right really is ****** up enough to elect someone who hates everyone except his sychophantic fans. Someone who encourages violence against the press and against those who protest him. Someone who doesn't believe in the constitution. Someone who will brazenly break the law and be proud of it on national TV, or someone too stupid to realise that his influence circle is ridden with a Russian pox. Or worse, someone who is personally endebted and influenced by Russia in a way no American president should.

Sure enough you and i despise each other and i certainly hate everything you claim to stand for, but as much as i might refer to you as a fascist and a racist i find it hard to believe you hate liberals and liberalism so much that, rather than the left be right about something, you would rather see allied western superpowers become the puppet nation of Vladimir Putin, regardless of how much love you have for Trump and his politics.

So consider the possibility that you're wrong about the media and i'll consider the possibility that i'm wrong too. Maybe you're right and the Russia thing really is one gigantic left-wing conspiracy of all the major news organisations and 17 branches of American intelligence and law enforcement, and Russia didn't do anything to swing the US election, and Trump's campaign didn't collude with the government of a hostile nation to win a presidency.
Or maybe it isn't all just a left-wing conspiracy. Maybe when Trump admits that the reason he fired someone is because he was investigating possible Russia collusion perhaps there's something in it that should be investigated (an open and shut case of obstruction of justice too, btw). When the National Security Advisor and former Campaign Manager both have to retrospectively register as an agent of a foreign government, and when one of them then demands immunity from prosecution in exchange for his testimony on Trump's campaign and Russian collusion, perhaps there's something there that should be investigated. When another senior advisor and soon-to-be Attourney General literally perjures himself in his confirmation hearing by denying contacts with Russia during the campaign and then has to go back and retrospectively amend his testimony to avoid an indictment, maybe there's something there to investigate. When Trump's bff Roger Stone admits to having contact with the hacker who stole emails from the DCCC and who is suspected of being linked to Russian intelligence, perhaps there's something there to investigate?
And this isn't even scratching the surface of questions that need to be answered.

No open-minded individual can go through this document and question the need for an investigation. So that's my challenge to you. Read it. You don't have to click through to every source, just pick a few to make sure the summary of the source is accurate as to what the source is saying. Then once you've done that if you still think it's all a left-wing conspiracy at least you'll be able to make an evidence based argument in a reply on this thread and I promise to give your argument at least an equal amount of care and attention that you have put into expressing it.

link - https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpInvestigation/wiki/doc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:57 pm

Imploding Turtle

".. Or worse, someone who is personally endebted and influenced by Russia in a way no American president should....

... allied western superpowers become the puppet nation of Vladimir Putin....

Cynthia McKinney, PhD
"Face it, USA, your Congress is bought and owned by AIPAC, the Israel Lobby."

"52 congressmen urge US to list Israel on Jerusalem-born citizens' passports
The letter, led by Republican Reps. Ron DeSantis of Florida and Bill Johnson of Ohio, was sent last week to Secretary of State Rex Tillerson...."

Sharon to Peres: "We Control America"

Congressional Pandering to Israel proves him Right...by Mohamed Khodr

http://www.mediamonitors.net/khodr49.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well worth watching:

Bullhorns: nothing burger

"Revealing the truth – CNN and the nothing burger better known as ‘Russiagate’. Also, when Trump tweeted, and Washington melted down. And, what to expect from the Putin-Trump meeting in Hamburg?"

CrossTalking......Peter Lavelle with Dmitry Babich, Victor Olevich, and Mark Sleboda.

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/3951 ... in-russia/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:05 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Probably because back then he was just a racist joke who peddled racist conspiracy theories about Barack Obama. Lied and bullshitted about investigators he claimed to have who he said "cannot believe what they're finding" out about Obama and his birth certificate. The man is just contantly lying, and we saw similar bullshit to this recently when he tried to pretend he had recorded his conversations with James Comey, in an effort, Trump says, to influence Comey's testimony to congress; a crime. The dumb **** then says his plan to influence the testimony worked because Comey told the truth, yet Comey's testimony was utterly damning to Trump.

Those of us paying attention prior to his racist announcement speech 2 years ago had seen him for the compulsive liar that he is long before he began officially running for president. We also knew he was incredibly stupid with his completely needless lying. We knew he was racist from the times when the courts decided he was and from when he took out a full page advert demanding five innocent black men be executed for a crime he was (and still is, i think) convinced they committed. Back then he was just a joke and no one really took him seriously because surely the American right-wing isn't so insane as to elect someone so obviously not up to the job as this guy.

But it turns out we were wrong. The American right really is ****** up enough to elect someone who hates everyone except his sychophantic fans. Someone who encourages violence against the press and against those who protest him. Someone who doesn't believe in the constitution. Someone who will brazenly break the law and be proud of it on national TV, or someone too stupid to realise that his influence circle is ridden with a Russian pox. Or worse, someone who is personally endebted and influenced by Russia in a way no American president should.

Sure enough you and i despise each other and i certainly hate everything you claim to stand for, but as much as i might refer to you as a fascist and a racist i find it hard to believe you hate liberals and liberalism so much that, rather than the left be right about something, you would rather see allied western superpowers become the puppet nation of Vladimir Putin, regardless of how much love you have for Trump and his politics.

So consider the possibility that you're wrong about the media and i'll consider the possibility that i'm wrong too. Maybe you're right and the Russia thing really is one gigantic left-wing conspiracy of all the major news organisations and 17 branches of American intelligence and law enforcement, and Russia didn't do anything to swing the US election, and Trump's campaign didn't collude with the government of a hostile nation to win a presidency.
Or maybe it isn't all just a left-wing conspiracy. Maybe when Trump admits that the reason he fired someone is because he was investigating possible Russia collusion perhaps there's something in it that should be investigated (an open and shut case of obstruction of justice too, btw). When the National Security Advisor and former Campaign Manager both have to retrospectively register as an agent of a foreign government, and when one of them then demands immunity from prosecution in exchange for his testimony on Trump's campaign and Russian collusion, perhaps there's something there that should be investigated. When another senior advisor and soon-to-be Attourney General literally perjures himself in his confirmation hearing by denying contacts with Russia during the campaign and then has to go back and retrospectively amend his testimony to avoid an indictment, maybe there's something there to investigate. When Trump's bff Roger Stone admits to having contact with the hacker who stole emails from the DCCC and who is suspected of being linked to Russian intelligence, perhaps there's something there to investigate?
And this isn't even scratching the surface of questions that need to be answered.

No open-minded individual can go through this document and question the need for an investigation. So that's my challenge to you. Read it. You don't have to click through to every source, just pick a few to make sure the summary of the source is accurate as to what the source is saying. Then once you've done that if you still think it's all a left-wing conspiracy at least you'll be able to make an evidence based argument in a reply on this thread and I promise to give your argument at least an equal amount of care and attention that you have put into expressing it.

link - https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpInvestigation/wiki/doc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Think someone's missed the point!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:07 pm

Right_winger wrote:Think someone's missed the point!

Proof, if ever it was needed, that you're not at all interested in challenging your own opinions.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:18 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Proof, if ever it was needed, that you're not at all interested in challenging your own opinions.

The point being where was the uproar before trump entered politics. I can't for example think of yourself mentioning im once.

Just saying.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:28 pm

Right_winger wrote:

The point being where was the uproar before trump entered politics. I can't for example think of yourself mentioning im once.

Just saying.

There was no "uproar" about Obama before he entered politics either, or Clinton, Corbyn, Thatcher, or even Hitler. You know why? Because it doesn't really matter how much of a dick someone is when they have no power.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:32 pm

People dying in the streets. Sure cuts down on the overhead.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:38 pm

In Canada, we have a group called "Black Lives Matter'. (Debate that one in Parliament, will ya?) They're the loudest, most disruptive group ever. Thing is, they seem to have unlimited funds for their cause, like taking over the Gay Pride Parade every year. My question is, where do they get their money, or are they just a front for organized crime? And now the indigenous people have borrowed their tactics, and tried to erect a teepee on the steps of the Canadian House of Parliament on Canada Day. They became quite hysterical when they were denied by security.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:48 pm

Greenmile wrote:There was no "uproar" about Obama before he entered politics either, or Clinton, Corbyn, Thatcher, or even Hitler. You know why? Because it doesn't really matter how much of a dick someone is when they have no power.

It's as if your saying Trump was a complete unknown

:lol

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:49 pm

ontario claret wrote:In Canada, we have a group called "Black Lives Matter'. (Debate that one in Parliament, will ya?) They're the loudest, most disruptive group ever. Thing is, they seem to have unlimited funds for their cause, like taking over the Gay Pride Parade every year. My question is, where do they get their money, or are they just a front for organized crime? And now the indigenous people have borrowed their tactics, and tried to erect a teepee on the steps of the Canadian House of Parliament on Canada Day. They became quite hysterical when they were denied by security.

What's that got to do with Trump's lies?

Is it this bit?

"My question is, where do they get their money, or are they just a front for organized crime?"

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:50 pm

Right_winger wrote:It's as if your saying Trump was a complete unknown :lol

Tim Sherwood is kind of famous, and also a dick. Where's the uproar about him?

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:59 pm

It all ties in together, because one of the greatest planks in Trump's political platform is the ignoring of special interest groups (except billionaires). While the majority of the population over here told the opportunity to pat themselves on the back on Canada Day, special interest groups took the opportunity to magnify their causes by trying to disrupt things as much as possible. Think the Tet Offensive by the Viet Cong, or Castro's invasion of Havana on New Year's Eve. It's called Subversion 101. Or, "the squeaky wheel always gets the grease."

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:05 pm

Right_winger wrote:

The point being where was the uproar before trump entered politics. I can't for example think of yourself mentioning im once.

Just saying.

This is basically the equivalent of saying "how come Theresa May gets so much criticism when Alan Sugar gets off scot-free?"

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:10 pm

Greenmile wrote:This is basically the equivalent of saying "how come Theresa May gets so much criticism when Alan Sugar gets off scot-free?"

Another one missing the point entirely.

Let's say for example piers Morgan, or everyone's favourite Katie Hopkins. Do they get stick? Are they in politics?

Trump has been around for a long long time, these things he's been accused of date back a long time. However the uproar only starts when he enters politics? Almost like the establishment are trying to influence people's opinion.

comprende?

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:17 pm

Right_winger wrote:Another one missing the point entirely.

Let's say for example piers Morgan, or everyone's favourite Katie Hopkins. Do they get stick? Are they in politics?

Trump has been around for a long long time, these things he's been accused of date back a long time. However the uproar only starts when he enters politics? Almost like the establishment are trying to influence people's opinion.

comprende?

Colluding with the Russians? Pulling out of the Paris Accord? Firing the head of the FBI for investigating his campaign?

IT's post above lists a few of the things he did before entering politic which caused an "uproar". The three things I've mentioned are a little more serious, hence more "uproar".

There's plenty of other examples that could be added to either list, by the way.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:17 pm

Go get em floyd!!

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:17 pm

Trump works for Israel,you can fill in the blanks.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:18 pm

I think Piers Morgan is one of the most political people on earth. He might not hold an elected office, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't stand for something. (And I don't hear him complaining about bad publicity).

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:20 pm

And backing Israel has long been a popular stance in North America. Just ask the evangelicals. Armageddon is coming, y'know.

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:39 pm

On the subject of the original post, here's another: Trump said his health are bill would be better than Obamas. Yet 22 Million Americans will now have no health coverage, and Medicaid - for disabled people - is being gutted. How is this "better"?

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:39 pm

‘Let’s Get Back to Russia’: Media’s Interest in Narrowing the Trump Story
By Eoin Higgins

...."The Russia story also shifts activist energy and attention away from the issues that could challenge the interests of the elites who run the networks. Healthcare, tax cuts and net neutrality, for example, are bread-and-butter subjects for the corporate interests that run cable news. It’s easier for journalists to point to a traditional adversary of the United States and decry interference in the democratic process than it is to examine issues where the president and their bosses may be on the same side."

http://fair.org/home/lets-get-back-to-r ... ialnetwork" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Comments:

1... I think people are infuriated with it because there is zero evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians, there is next to no evidence of actual Russian intererence in the election (beyond the word of the same people who brought you "WMDs in Iraq"), and even supposing the Russian interference story is true, it would be pretty mild compared to what the US has been doing as matter of course in other democracies since forever(as Noam Chomsky and others have pointed out).

2...I used to like most of MSNBC back in the day, until I finally came to my senses and realized they’re just another corporate-owned lapdog of Washington. That was a tough pill to swallow.

3.. 20 years ago TIME wrote about how the US "advisors" helped Yeltsin win in the Russian elections. Today they are enraged how Putin "intervenes" in the US elections.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:42 pm

Go blue! Go Blue! Go Blue!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:13 am

Right_winger wrote:

The point being where was the uproar before trump entered politics. I can't for example think of yourself mentioning im once.

Just saying.

You joined this site in August last year. This site has only existed since last January. Trump announced his candidacy about 7 months before this site went live. Gee, i can't for the life of me imagine why you can't remember me talking about the racist Birther before then.

But that doesn't matter because just because you can't remember something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

And furthermore, so what? What point do you think you're making even if you are right?

Cajun · Post by **Cajun** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:39 am

The divisiveness here in the US of A surrounding "Trump's lies" is very evident at 4th of July time. Example: I have a colleague who for the most part I get on very well with, he is 70+ and a part-timer. Everyone where I work tries hard to avoid political discussions, but yesterday, with Dirtbag Donald about to head for the G20, he asked me how GB and Europe viewed Trump. I replied using bits of conversations I have had recently with family members who live in France and England, with former media colleagues on both sides of the pol divide in England, with my best mate who spends several months a year in Scandanavia, and my regular scanning of GB media. My answer, with the non-stop lying being the basis for a complete lack of trust in the man the world over, caused outrage for my colleague. He refuses to believe that Trump ever lies, thinks everything he hears on Fake Fox (his one news choice) to be true and all the other media outlets to be wrong, would not accept any of the dozen or so proven recent Trump lies i cited off the top of my head were anything other than Democratic/media spin, and with veins bulging and popping, could only end with yelling "Well Europe can go fukc itself, if it wasn't for the US you would be speaking German, and Trump is the best thing to happen to the USA in the last hundred years."
The sight of Trump representing the country I live in makes me want to vomit, but that is just my opinion to which I am entitled. My colleague, a typical 'base' supporter, can't accept anyone else's opinion as having any merit.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:12 am

Cajun wrote:The divisiveness here in the US of A surrounding "Trump's lies" is very evident at 4th of July time. Example: I have a colleague who for the most part I get on very well with, he is 70+ and a part-timer. Everyone where I work tries hard to avoid political discussions, but yesterday, with Dirtbag Donald about to head for the G20, he asked me how GB and Europe viewed Trump. I replied using bits of conversations I have had recently with family members who live in France and England, with former media colleagues on both sides of the pol divide in England, with my best mate who spends several months a year in Scandanavia, and my regular scanning of GB media. My answer, with the non-stop lying being the basis for a complete lack of trust in the man the world over, caused outrage for my colleague. He refuses to believe that Trump ever lies, thinks everything he hears on Fake Fox (his one news choice) to be true and all the other media outlets to be wrong, would not accept any of the dozen or so proven recent Trump lies i cited off the top of my head were anything other than Democratic/media spin, and with veins bulging and popping, could only end with yelling "Well Europe can go fukc itself, if it wasn't for the US you would be speaking German, and Trump is the best thing to happen to the USA in the last hundred years."
The sight of Trump representing the country I live in makes me want to vomit, but that is just my opinion to which I am entitled. My colleague, a typical 'base' supporter, can't accept anyone else's opinion as having any merit.

The G20 is going to be an embarrassment for him. He's woefully ill-prepared.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:06 am

Squarepusher wrote:Some top notch tweeting from POTUS today: https://twitter.com/realDonaldDrumpf/st ... 7168071680" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Remember this? You probably think it's harmless and couldn't possibly be a call for violence, and i'm sure it wasn't. But being the President means everything you say and do has to be measured lest some insane person or people look at things like this and thinks it's a call to arms. But whatever, right? Surely Trump's supporters aren't that insane.

Well... you tell me how insane they are. CNN quite understandably wanted to know who created the gif. Was it someone among Trump's staff or was it someone online and Trump merely appropriated it himself. Well, they found out that it was created by a Reddit user HanAssholeSolo and reported as much.

The creator of the gif issued a grovelling apology on the Trump fanatical subreddit before CNN even spoke with him. By the time they did speak with him they knew his real life identity but have chosen to not release it because the guy apparently seemed sincere in his remorse. CNN also stated that they reserved the right to release it in future should he continue his trolling. So they didn't enter an agreement with the guy.

CNN have been forced to release that he's a middle-aged man, however. Why? Because some influential Trump fanatics, such as Donald Trump's son, spread the lie that the guy was a 15 year old and that CNN are blackmailing him. One Trump supporter with a verified Twitter account even called him a 15 year old LGBT Trump supporter. Obviously the Trump fanatics chose to believe this, and because they're completely level-headed they merely refused to use CNN ever again, right? Not quite. They sent CNN reporters death threats, they've threatened to "hunt down" the children of CNN staffers, the personal information of CNN staff, including private home addresses, was published online.

These people are not the kind of people you want to even pretend to condone violence in front of because not all of them will think it's a joke. I wonder how funny you'll find it when journalists end up dead, or their kids end up dead because what your rational mind thought was just a funny joke, another angry, fanatical mind thought was a good idea.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:31 pm

Cajun, is your colleague also a member of a militia group?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:50 am

Someone spray-painted "kill trump" on an elementary school wall. Proof that those evil libruls are violent thugs.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:59 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Someone spray-painted "kill trump" on an elementary school wall. Proof that those evil libruls are violent thugs.

They are tho.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:17 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:They are tho.

The best you can come up with is calling black bloc "liberals" or "leftists" in an attempt to paint antifa as violent.

Remember that time you linked three videos of what you said were left-wing protesters being violent and it turned out every single one of them was black bloc? I do.
You don't even know if all of those black bloc are actually black bloc. Some of them might even be Trump supporters trying to frame the other "team".

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:28 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:The best you can come up with is calling black bloc "liberals" or "leftists" in an attempt to paint antifa as violent.

Remember that time you linked three videos of what you said were left-wing protesters being violent and it turned out every single one of them was black bloc? I do.
You don't even know if all of those black bloc are actually black bloc. Some of them might even be Trump supporters trying to frame the other "team".

Black Bloc are left wing. They support far-left wing ideologies, they protest left wing causes, they vote and fund left wing candidates.

By the way, just curious, do you still think Trump is a white supremacist?

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:30 am

A bit more 'Fake/misleading news' from CNN.

It starts at 20:20 on this vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S761q2z9r4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:32 am

"You don't even know if all of those black bloc are actually black bloc. Some of them might even be Trump supporters trying to frame the other "team"."

Any evidence for this conspiracy theory ?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:33 am

what the actual **** are you on about? You don't even know what news is anymore, fake or otherwise. That was one woman sharing an opinion. She doesn't even work at CNN.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:37 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:what the actual **** are you on about you dumb ****? You don't even know what news is anymore, fake or otherwise. That was one woman sharing an opinion. She doesn't even work at CNN.

Did you actually watch what they chose to show and chose to not show from that lady's speech? And then gave their opinion that the lady was "calling for peace"? Watch again.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:37 am

claretandy wrote:"You don't even know if all of those black bloc are actually black bloc. Some of them might even be Trump supporters trying to frame the other "team"."

Any evidence for this conspiracy theory ?

About as much evidence as you have in saying they're Antifa.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:39 am

I'm all for free speech here, I'd love to know what those words are that you asterixed out babe.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:41 am

morpheus2 wrote:Did you actually watch what they chose to show and chose to not show from that lady's speech? And then gave their opinion that the lady was "calling for peace"? Watch again.

Oh ffs, i looked at 22:20.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:43 am

Apology accepted.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:46 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Oh ffs, i looked at 22:20.

There will of course be a retraction and apology from CNN for misleading somewhere, but I don't know how to find their Apology and Retraction of Fake News Department, I think you know where it is.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:47 am

OK, so having looked at the bullshit reporting guess what CNN did that you don't find many of the sources CM would call "legit news" would do. They issued a correction AND the parts of the rant that weren't included in the report.

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